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[VGT] Resident Evil Village DEMO: PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison

Vognerful

Member
No

One is 400 the other is 500.
Can you buy a DE for 400 usd? Because the cheapest you can get where I live is 800 usd even from official distributers.

Edit: I checked again the prices in my cou try and while it is not sold at 800 usd, the PS5DE is still sold around 100 usd more than what xbox series x costs.

So I think once prices returns back to normal range, the price benefit is for xbox, not ps.
 
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JackMcGunns

Member
From struggling at 1080p at 60fps with no ray tracing on PS5 vs no issues at native 4K on XSX to both using 4k CB with same ray tracing settings and pretty much same performance.
Also Capcom must be punished by Jim for letting a couple of extra frame rate drops slide into the PS5 version, the marketing deal didn't allow for that!?

Oh the FUD and fake stories from ''insiders'' :messenger_grinning_sweat:
Finally the bullshit is over...with this game.
Parity clause
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
If you want the best gameplay experience and immersion, best version to play is on PS5. Btw. difference between PS5 and XSx in framerates are so marginal, like 0.4% :/

I've played on both my ps5 and my xbox series x. Xbox has no visible hitching at all thanks to vrr and uses the rumble triggers that felt great. I can tell you from owning both the experience is better on xbox......

....for this game.
 
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geordiemp

Member
Its super weird at around 15:00 mark in the video PS5 has more smoke? When they look left 10 seconds later smoke is the same and it looks really weird cause half the room is thick with smoke and the other half has like zero. PS the entire room is on fire
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If you read the Ceny / ND patent about processing vertices differently so it allows SOME "cheaper" post processing effects, and if thats in Ps5 of course, then allot of the alpha / post processing ps5 punching above its weight aligns with what we see in most DF analysis and the Cerny patent during such instances.....

Its quite easy to see one device has more compute and does have advantages, the other is faster and has less cost for post processing at times.

You can almost predict expected results based off workload and the engine and what its likely doing - but we are just observers so take it for what you will.

Medium world, but not open, Lots of compute RT, minimal effects just edges XSX. Large streaming world I would bet on Ps5, or lots of alphas and efefcts. Lots of compute for hundreds of NPC, maybe XSX shades...depends how its done.

But its all a much of a muchness a few percent either way, not that exciting, but fun none the less.
 
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Vognerful

Member
Sure, still pretending to miss the point of the half step, rushed, RDNA 1.5, lacking true HW RT, 2 TFLOPS less at best (variable clock rate etc… FUD) PS5 being in spitting distance with the same quality settings to the $100 more expensive (PS5 has a DE with the same identical specs as the one with the disc model) XSX is a better look for the PS5 than anything.

But please, when people told you that focusing on TFLOPS (during those months of pre-release gloating) and variable clocks worries was missing out on other factors that would get the consoles a lot closer to each other than people thought it was just dreamy Sony fanboys :p.
Actually the ps5ED costs more currently than xboxSX.
 

BigLee74

Member
I think it's fine to criticize how the XSS is handling the RT version of the game. The developers need to work on improving it's performance. A framerate that variable (like that 1800P PS5 game) isn't acceptable and developers should fix it.

Edit: The PS5 game that I was talking about.



Yeah, RT mode on the XSS needs locked. I’ve already stated as such in this thread. And I’m sure it will be.

Does that constitute an elephant in the room, or the rest of the absolute codswallop that gets posted again and again by the same people?

Nah, I don’t think it does. You don’t like the XSS, don’t buy it. But the mock surprise should stop. Everybody here knows it’s limitations. We are not the intended audience.

Edit: Definitely noticed some drops on the village demo (XSX). Not a fan of horror games anyway (too much of a pussy) so won’t affect me too much as I won’t be buying it.
 
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Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
It does without RT.

With RT though, the framerate takes a bigger hit than the PS5 and XSX. Honestly I never expected this thing to run any game with RT at all when it was announced.

Now you hear this (we all knew it would lose more than just resolution and texture quality and effects, we expected lower framerate and losing RT too… yeah sure bud… that is exactly what Xbox fans were saying…), back when it was announced it was a loud chorus of same gfx as the XSX just at a lower resolution. This is rewriting history but oh well 🤷‍♂️.

A digital only XSX with 512 GB of SSD could have been sold for $349-399 and avoid holding XSX back.
The entire point about “no not true, it could not hold it back… it is the same HW at lower resolution, you do not need to really worry about it when developing it, develop for the XSX and flick a switch”… well…
 
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THE DUCK

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Well the issue with the XSS is that it was sold as a lower resolution XSX which isn't really the case. Not everyone studies the specifications to determine how each system will perform.

For most practical purposes, it is really a lower resolution series X. At least for the average gamer who buys it.....they seem to be happy with it. For my purpose, in the bedroom, it certainly hits that mark for me.
 
If you read the Ceny / ND patent about processing vertices differently so it allows SOME "cheaper" post processing effects, and if thats in Ps5 of course, then allot of the alpha / post processing ps5 punching above its weight aligns with what we see in most DF analysis and the Cerny patent during such instances.....

Its quite easy to see one device has more compute and does have advantages, the other is faster and has less cost for post processing at times.

You can almost predict expected results based off workload and the engine and what its likely doing - but we are just observers so take it for what you will.

Medium world, but not open, Lots of compute RT, minimal effects just edges XSX. Large streaming world I would bet on Ps5, or lots of alphas and efefcts. Lots of compute for huindreds of NPC, maybe XSX shades. -

But its all a much of a muchness a few percent either way but fun none the less.
I was more pointing out that it looks odd because I have no real knowledge to say why it was done. All I do know is if the entire room is on fire its pretty much never going to be look this way and soo much smoke you cant see the floor, turn around and there is basically zero smoke. Just looks weird.
 

JaksGhost

Member
I think it's fine to criticize how the XSS is handling the RT version of the game. The developers need to work on improving it's performance. A framerate that variable (like that 1800P PS5 game) isn't acceptable and developers should fix it.

Edit: The PS5 game that I was talking about.




They did fix that 🥴
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
The quite few scene you talking about are scenes where nothing happens. When enemies appears on the screen series X is practically like per like to the ps5 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, they are practically identical. That's what I'm saying. This game shows the huge benefit of VRR and there's only one console with it at the time of the games launch.

I'm only talking about my personal experience, of course I'm going to buy the game for the console that will allow me to have the best experience with raytracing on. Which for this game and my set up is undeniably the xbox version. That's why I'm glad these comparisons exist.
 

geordiemp

Member
I was more pointing out that it looks odd because I have no real knowledge to say why it was done. All I do know is if the entire room is on fire its pretty much never going to be look this way and soo much smoke you cant see the floor, turn around and there is basically zero smoke. Just looks weird.

I was commending on your good observation and just inputing a likely explanation - go read the patent, it explains how vertices are processed and done differently giving a benefit when doing some post processing.

Its a fairly common observation with such effects if you have not noticed already.
 
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Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
For most practical purposes, it is really a lower resolution series X. At least for the average gamer who buys it
A quite condescending way to look at it, I thought it was supposed to be that Sony fans tweet looking down upon Xbox owners…

It is not a lower resolution XSX and games are showing it, but maybe if the XSX version is held back a bit more the difference between the two will be smaller…
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
A quite condescending way to look at it, I thought it was supposed to be that Sony fans tweet looking down upon Xbox owners…

It is not a lower resolution XSX and games are showing it, but maybe if the XSX version is held back a bit more the difference between the two will be smaller…
Almost like the memory bandwidth has a lot more to do with than just, "lower the rez."
 
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For most practical purposes, it is really a lower resolution series X. At least for the average gamer who buys it.....they seem to be happy with it. For my purpose, in the bedroom, it certainly hits that mark for me.

Lower resolution and lower features in some games. Definitely not just a lower resolution XSX that would be the PS5 depending on the game.
 
And rtx3070 costs 500 usd.

But go to any shop where I live and the never sell it on that price.

As I explained in other post, even though xbox and ps5 are sold above MSRP where I live, PS5DE is still sold for a higher price than XSX.

Sony isn't setting those prices though in case you didn't notice. For all intent and proposes its 399$ and I've seen it listed for that price at places other than Sonys store. Once supply clears up I'm sure it will be almost impossible for those stores to sell it above MSRP so they will have to drop the price.

I can guarantee you that I won't pay more than the MSRP for my PS5. And I'll show you the receipt if you wish.
 
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Vognerful

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Screen shot of prices that I took today. Even the digital model is more expensive than xbox.
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OsirisBlack

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Well it’s the lesser of the 2 offerings. Can’t play physical games on it is or watch blurys those are huge compromises.
I have the disc version ps5 and the only disc games I have I was sent and repurchased digitally because I really don’t like disc and I have never played a Blu-ray on my gaming console. Not sure how those are compromises discless is objectively a better way to game (just ask any pc gamer) and streaming makes Blu-ray’s pretty moot nowadays. I mean you can stream in 4K with HDR on just about every streaming service now.

As far as the game is concerned they are pretty much identical. Funny I remember capcom releasing an article saying this game didn’t exist. How time flies.
 

DaGwaphics

Member
Great to see good performance all the way around. Hopefully they will consider a 30fps cap for RT mode on the XSS (or at least a menu option for it) for the final release.

I'm especially glad those 45fps targets didn't hold, that would not be cute.
 
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Vognerful

Member
So, without bundles or anything they are selling the PS5 DE at over $100+ MSRP? *Insert doubt*

(One of the two items seems to have insane demand yes, but still doubt on the pricing example)
At launch they were selling it at around 750 usd by forcing people into buying accessories. You either pay that much or leave.
 

DaGwaphics

Member
Not the console price warring again. LOL

For similarly equipped models (that represent probably 80% of the PS5s available for sale) the pricing is the same. MS could replace the BR drive with a block of foam and have a diskless version on shelves in a hot minute. That's not a big deal.
 

Mr Moose

Member
Offer me one for MSRP then we can talk.
Not my fault you're getting ripped off, these are the official prices:

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What is the price of PS5 in the UAE?

At Jumbo Electronics, Sony PlayStation 5 is available for AED 2,099 for those in the UAE, alongside its accessories that have different price ranges.

Just don't buy one for silly prices, same reason I haven't bought a new GPU yet.
 
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Vognerful

Member
So your local retailers are price gouging for a higher in demand item than the other.

It really isn't that hard of a concept to grasp.
The cost of an item is the minimum you have to pay to get access to. If this what you have to pay to get a PS5 then this is the price of PS5.

Foi g back to original argument: using the MSRP of PS5DE as advantage over xbox is pointless sense there are less PS5DE in the market and they are sold for a higher price than xbox.
 
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