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[ToadMan]

Not my type of games (at least in the past) but yeah those graphics and environments really seem to push out the envelope a lot.

And the portal seemed faster than the previous gameplay video I saw. Really impressive work.

 

[jroc74]

Ironic coming from the fanbase that still posts Craig memes to this day.

I would love if Ragnarok was developed for PS5 only, that would obviously mean better graphics and all. But the facts point in the opposite direction, sadly.

But yeah, apparently the great conspiration of Xbox fans secretly rooting for God Of War Ragnarok to be a PS4 game has been uncovered.

But...Craig was legit funny. Even MS thought so.

Being happy the God of War sequel will be cross gen, especially if it looks amazing....would just look sad....same goes for Horizon Frozen Wild.

I bet both games would still look amazing as cross gen games. Infinite didnt even look like it had a next gen version. It legit looked like an XBO game.

I keep saying this.....Miles, for it to be cross gen, is still an amazing looking game. They did enough to make the PS5 version stand out as a cross gen game.

 

[existensmaximum]

By the way, this is why we need exclusives. In my opinion, games are never as impressive as when they're developed/optimized for one single platform with a high budget that is put to use for one machine only (by a talented developer).

 

[Dr Bass]

because thats the point of a sequel, to go in different directions, to improve, to take chances. Mario should be faulted to hell and back since forever for this, most of nintendo's properties. But its nintendo, we dont do that here, in the interwebz. Ratchet is just a silly game of jumping around, its something you would put the 5 year old cousin to play when he visits until his mother says they're leaving. We're only pretending this is some goty material because thats what we do with every sony game, whatever that is.

So does Microsoft pay semi-monthly or is it every two weeks?

Mario tries to do something fresh with every installment, while retaining the core gameplay properties. Same with Zelda. That's why they get so highly rated game after game. They have some of the best video game minds in the world making those games, and they are, usually, top of it's class when they are released, as well as timeless.

You can deconstruct any game you wish with your approach. Every single game is some form of movement and a very limited set of actions you can take. Most games involve running/walking, jumping, shooting, attacking, or talking. Maybe some menu driven options/interactions. And that's about it. Every game is fit for a five year old when framed in that manner.

So, nice try. This game looks fantastic and it's going to be well liked. Maybe even loved.

P.S. Sequels are USUALLY meant to deliver more of the same with a familiar formula/setting/set of characters.

 

[ahmyleg]

I fucking despise Ratchet and Clank. One of the most aestheticly generic-looking platforming franchises IMO. And the dialogue...ugh. Nothing can top Crash 2 dialogue on PS1. OSCAR-WORTHY.




I'm actually a bit serious.

 

[AdjudicatorHead]

Okay, single greatest looking videogame ever made. This game is a next gen statement! I just watched it on my 65 inch CX OLED. People do NOT yet understand how good this game looks. If you haven't watched it on a large screen OLED, and are just watching from your phone or from the PC monitor, you do not realize how good this game truly looks. Holy fucking shit.

I also watched it on a 65 inch CX OLED... but we’re not done yet... Sony’s studios including Insomniac always have excellent HDR implementations. Just wait until we’re playing the actual live game with HDR and without video compression... it’s gonna be MINDBLOWING.

 

[dr guildo]

My Link To download the 4K StateOfPlay Gameplay SHowcase trailer :

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Enjoy !

 

[Soulblighter31]

So does Microsoft pay semi-monthly or is it every two weeks?

Mario tries to do something fresh with every installment, while retaining the core gameplay properties. Same with Zelda. That's why they get so highly rated game after game. They have some of the best video game minds in the world making those games, and they are, usually, top of it's class when they are released, as well as timeless.

You can deconstruct any game you wish with your approach. Every single game is some form of movement and a very limited set of actions you can take. Most games involve running/walking, jumping, shooting, attacking, or talking. Maybe some menu driven options/interactions. And that's about it. Every game is fit for a five year old when framed in that manner.

So, nice try. This game looks fantastic and it's going to be well liked. Maybe even loved.

P.S. Sequels are USUALLY meant to deliver more of the same with a familiar formula/setting/set of characters.

Mario is a platformer. Its limited by its very nature. You're playing almost the same game throughout its history, more than any other franchise. Ratchet and Clank would not be given a second look if not for the fact that its a sony game. Its a rote and silly jumping game, doing nothing of value or worth.

No, sequels are never meant to deliver more of the same. Why would anyone want another game doing the same things the previous one did ? All the masterclass games throughout history are remembered when they did something extraordinary, not when they did more of the same. Why even make a new game if you have nothing to say and just repeat the previous one ? Sequels that follow this formula are mediocre sequels.

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah not a fan of all the side activities like flying combat or clank puzzles, never liked them, i hope that 90% of the core gameplay is still gonna be tps combat style, usually these variation are deep as a puddle and less fun than just shooting enemies or exploring for secrets.

Other than that, it looks great, the city bit was incredible.

 

[user1337]

 

[kyliethicc]

Ratchet was made by a different team than Spiderman and it last about 10 hours. Easy to put out games that last a quarter of your competition, no?

What's DeS? Demons Souls? If that's the case there's nothing to explain there. It's a copy paste with better graphics, it probably took them less than a year to make it, more like half a year.

Returnal is an indie game, of course it wouldn't take them much time to do it. That's why there's no story nor long cutscenes, there's not a lot of production going for that game.

Did they say if we're getting a 60fps mode?

Tired PS2 gameplay .. 30 fps .. make a scifi space opera instead.

 

[killatopak]

Enjoy, you fuckers.

PS5 Pro will probably be made before PS5 Amateur gets available in my country.

 

[muteZX]

Ratchet is another cheap cannon fodder. Filler game. Short, primitive gameplay at full price. You can spew similar games every 12-18 months. Have you seen this somewhere in the video - or anything really next gen, new and fun? And gimmicky portal jumping thing can eat my ass.

 

[Zoro7]

99% of people in this thread - “Wow this looks amazing”
1% of people (the usual suspects) - nitpicking.
I suppose they need something to do whilst they wait for Halo.

 

[Dodkrake]

The amount of butthurt in this thread is delicious. So many tears!

 

[Heisenberg007]

Ratchet is another cheap cannon fodder. Filler game. Short, primitive gameplay at full price. You can spew similar games every 12-18 months. Have you seen this somewhere in the video - or anything really next gen, new and fun? And gimmicky portal jumping thing can eat my ass.

You should tell that to PlayStation competitors. It's going to be 12 months soon without any games.

 

[muteZX]

You should tell that to PlayStation competitors. It's going to be 12 months soon without any games.

Capcom is doing that with Resi. Good for them. More PS2 games is always good.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Capcom is doing that with Resi. Good for them. More PS2 games is always good.

All developers and analysts on the internet are going gaga over a PS2 game? Well, they really don't much about games I guess.

 

[muteZX]

All developers and analysts on the internet are going gaga over a PS2 game? Well, they really don't much about games I guess.

I am proud of you that with such brilliant ease you accept simple PS2 games for 60-80 euros on HW thousands of times more powerful than the archaic PS2. Good for you !!

and .. lol .. All developers and analysts on the internet ..

 

[Heisenberg007]

I am proud of you that with such brilliant ease you accept simple PS2 games for 60-80 euros on HW thousands of times more powerful than the archaic PS2. Good for you !!

and .. lol .. All developers and analysts on the internet ..

Tell me one PS2 game with a side-by-side screenshots that look similar to Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart.

Here is the PS2 comparison.



And you're coming out as real ignorant or a huge anti-PS fanboy right now. Pick one.

 

[LMJ]

because thats the point of a sequel, to go in different directions, to improve, to take chances. Mario should be faulted to hell and back since forever for this, most of nintendo's properties. But its nintendo, we dont do that here, in the interwebz. Ratchet is just a silly game of jumping around, its something you would put the 5 year old cousin to play when he visits until his mother says they're leaving. We're only pretending this is some goty material because thats what we do with every sony game, whatever that is.

...Are you blind? I mean have you played R and C?

You are incorrect by the way, a sequel takes what made the first game cool and then doubles down while creating new experiences...

Good thing Insomniac did JUST that with R and C 2 (Going Commando) by introducing
Strafing
Upgradable weapon tiers
Space Combat
the Arena
upgradable Armor
Clank Side Missions
Mini Games

Oh, and did you enjoy Mario Galaxy? Well then thank R and C because they did it first with their spherical world battles

but what about #3 or Up your Arsenal? How about...

Optional Missions
More Collectables
2D level mini-games
refining and improving all the old hat mechanics
Diving gameplay
Team based battles
More Bosses and Mini Bosses
Oh and Grinding via boots
A completely new kind of side mission via Clank
or a Hub station battleship
Also gave us one of the greatest plot points in a game ever with a hypnotic POP song sung by Courteny Gears to turn robots evil





Then came Deadlocked, a no overworld episodic arena based combat game that was more frantic and less friendly then it's predecessors...

A Crack in Time introduced
Time and space control mechanics
The Constructo Weapons (modifiable weapons)
Yet another new flying system in the space combat
Explorable planets
time Sphere clank missions

you can't look at that and say Insomniac have been lazy, I would also love to see a 5 year old beat Ratchet and Clank without help, games require a LOT of dodging, strafing and aiming if you want to ACTUALLY win...and that's on normal mode, not New Game +BTW

Mario is a platformer. Its limited by its very nature. You're playing almost the same game throughout its history, more than any other franchise. Ratchet and Clank would not be given a second look if not for the fact that its a sony game. Its a rote and silly jumping game, doing nothing of value or worth.

No, sequels are never meant to deliver more of the same. Why would anyone want another game doing the same things the previous one did ? All the masterclass games throughout history are remembered when they did something extraordinary, not when they did more of the same. Why even make a new game if you have nothing to say and just repeat the previous one ? Sequels that follow this formula are mediocre sequels.

limited by it's very...okay at this point you're just being intentionally silly...

HAVE YOU SEEN MARIO?!?
That plumbers move list and capabilities change in every single game...

Unless you think this

Would have the same limitations as this

hell Bowsers Fury completely mixed up the formula by adding a tense sense of hurry and panic via Fury Bowser


And of COURSE sequels are SUPPOSED to delever more of the same, that's what warrented them sequels in the first place! Peopkle love the core mechanic, ever heard the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Or after the success of Mario Bros. would you have turned it into a FPS...hey it's not the same right

 

[Klayzer]

But...Craig was legit funny. Even MS thought so.

Being happy the God of War sequel will be cross gen, especially if it looks amazing....would just look sad....same goes for Horizon Frozen Wild.

I bet both games would still look amazing as cross gen games. Infinite didnt even look like it had a next gen version. It legit looked like an XBO game.

I keep saying this.....Miles, for it to be cross gen, is still an amazing looking game. They did enough to make the PS5 version stand out as a cross gen game.

Never underestimate the length of bitterness, and the desire for revenge from their base. And plus, its rich coming from his illk, when they still complain about the X1, being mocked all last gen from the initial reveal.

 

[abel empire]

Inwas thinking the same thing, it's so smooth

People are just fooled by the push for 60fps ive always said not everygame needs 60, 60fps is for gimmicky games like returnal, vanquish, bayonetta, ninja gaiden, arcade racing games forza, sega rally, nfs, shooters, but cinematic third person games like this, uncharted, splinter cell, metal gear only need spectacular gameplay, graphics at 30 fps because its cinematic. People just exaggerate stuff like spoiled 8 year olds when they hear 30fps. Even pixar films are 24fps its a joke.

30fps plus motion blur and smooth animations is as better and smooth as anything.

 

[muteZX]

Tell me one PS2 game with a side-by-side screenshots that look similar to Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart.

Here is the PS2 comparison.



And you're coming out as real ignorant or a huge anti-PS fanboy right now. Pick one.

Son.

It's still exactly the same PS2 gameplay. There is no effort, no talent, no next gen game mechanics. All that performance of those PS3, PS4, PS5 flew up the chimney. In a game that hangs at 30fps /4K upscaled, I suppose, lol/. Sweet.

 

[abel empire]

Not my type of games (at least in the past) but yeah those graphics and environments really seem to push out the envelope a lot.

And the portal seemed faster than the previous gameplay video I saw. Really impressive work.

The portal is just instant now its like both worlds where in ram! ps5 engineers are witches.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

There's a 15 minute long youtube video rant from a very upset Xbox fan urging anyone not to buy this game.

I thought console war only extended to forums like this but its also on fucking youtube? LOL

 

[abel empire]

Enjoy, you fuckers.

PS5 Pro will probably be made before PS5 Amateur gets available in my country.

There womt be a ps5 pro, only reason ps4 pro was made was for 4k tvs theres no reason for a ps5 pro and even the comversation about it is ridiculous. The console already supports 30-120fps 4k to 8k plus reconstruction technoques that even people cant tell if its natibe res or not. There will only be one ps5 and ps6

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Son.

It's still exactly the same PS2 gameplay. There is no effort, no talent, no next gen game mechanics. All that performance of those PS3, PS4, PS5 flew up the chimney. In a game that hangs at 30fps /4K upscaled, I suppose, lol/. Sweet.

Your trolling is a subtle as a brick through a window

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Mario is a platformer. Its limited by its very nature. You're playing almost the same game throughout its history, more than any other franchise. Ratchet and Clank would not be given a second look if not for the fact that its a sony game. Its a rote and silly jumping game, doing nothing of value or worth.

No, sequels are never meant to deliver more of the same. Why would anyone want another game doing the same things the previous one did ? All the masterclass games throughout history are remembered when they did something extraordinary, not when they did more of the same. Why even make a new game if you have nothing to say and just repeat the previous one ? Sequels that follow this formula are mediocre sequels.

So why would you come to a R&C thread expecting different of a game that's had multiple iterations of something you're so obviously not interested in? At what point do you acknowledge that you're just trolling?

I get the people who say it's not their type of game, but appreciate the visuals. They came for the spectacle. What are you here for, an argument?

 

[Heisenberg007]

Son.

It's still exactly the same PS2 gameplay. There is no effort, no talent, no next gen game mechanics. All that performance of those PS3, PS4, PS5 flew up the chimney. In a game that hangs at 30fps /4K upscaled, I suppose, lol/. Sweet.

Sorry man I'm not going to sponsor your eye treatment and brain transplant. Good luck raising the funds though!

 

[killatopak]

There womt be a ps5 pro, only reason ps4 pro was made was for 4k tvs theres no reason for a ps5 pro and even the comversation about it is ridiculous. The console already supports 30-120fps 4k to 8k plus reconstruction technoques that even people cant tell if its natibe res or not. There will only be one ps5 and ps6

One, RT.
Two, Resolution of most games aren’t even hitting 4k native. Just dynamic.
Three, VR

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Sorry man I'm not going to sponsor your eye treatment and brain transplant. Good luck raising the funds though!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

People are just fooled by the push for 60fps ive always said not everygame needs 60, 60fps is for gimmicky games like returnal, vanquish, bayonetta, ninja gaiden, arcade racing games forza, sega rally, nfs, shooters, but cinematic third person games like this, uncharted, splinter cell, metal gear only need spectacular gameplay, graphics at 30 fps because its cinematic. People just exaggerate stuff like spoiled 8 year olds when they hear 30fps. Even pixar films are 24fps its a joke.

30fps plus motion blur and smooth animations is as better and smooth as anything.

When people use the cinematic meme but they're 100% serious...

60 fps is always superior. Ratchet looks good at 30 fps as long as you're just running in a straight line and barely moving the camera. Once the big fights break out and you have to pan the camera a lot, the image looks like rainbow unicorn vomit.

60 fps is absolutely essential, and "muh cinematic" is a hilarious meme. There are very few games where 30 fps is actually acceptable (birdview strategy games, simulators like Flight Simulator etc).

 

[Klayzer]

So why would you come to a R&C thread expecting different of a game that's had multiple iterations of something you're so obviously not interested in? At what point do you acknowledge that you're just trolling?

I get the people who say it's not their type of game, but appreciate the visuals. They came for the spectacle. What are you here for, an argument?

They're all here for one reason only. To find someway to shit on the positive news, without being blatant. Some, are just better at hiding it with passive aggressive baloney. Others like the poster you're refrencing lacks troll skills.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

And I wanna see Sasha again. She seems the most forgotten of the 3.

No Angela is, Sasha appeared in 2 games (Up Your Arsenal and Deadlocked) and Talwyn in 3 (Tools of Destruction/Quest For Booty, A Crack in Time and Into the Nexus) while Angela appeared only in Going Commando and nothing else.

 

[abel empire]

One, RT.
Two, Resolution of most games aren’t even hitting 4k native. Just dynamic.
Three, VR

There wont be a pro console because of rt puddles, and resolutions dont matter any more, reconstruction techniques are visibly similar to native resolutions, demon souls and unreal 5 all ran at 1440p and nobody noticed until the devs said its 1440p because it was undistinguishable from native 4k. Its pointless to even imagine a ps5 pro its just naive kiddish thinking. And psvr 2 is already coming to ps5 they wont make a ps5 pro just for vr

 

[Krizalidx11]

Good luck to PS5 with RT in these scene, i mean the resolution might scale down to 1080p if they want to keep 60fps going

 

[killatopak]

There wont be a pro console because of rt puddles, and resolutions dont matter any more, reconstruction techniques are visibly similar to native resolutions, demon souls and unreal 5 all ran at 1440p and nobody noticed until the devs said its 1440p because it was undistinguishable from native 4k. Its pointless to even imagine a ps5 pro its just naive kiddish thinking. And psvr 2 is already coming to ps5 they wont make a ps5 pro just for vr

whatever makes you happy bro.

 

[Dodkrake]

When people use the cinematic meme but they're 100% serious...

60 fps is always superior. Ratchet looks good at 30 fps as long as you're just running in a straight line and barely moving the camera. Once the big fights break out and you have to pan the camera a lot, the image looks like rainbow unicorn vomit.

60 fps is absolutely essential, and "muh cinematic" is a hilarious meme. There are very few games where 30 fps is actually acceptable (birdview strategy games, simulators like Flight Simulator etc).

It's called motion blur.

 

[abel empire]

When people use the cinematic meme but they're 100% serious...

60 fps is always superior. Ratchet looks good at 30 fps as long as you're just running in a straight line and barely moving the camera. Once the big fights break out and you have to pan the camera a lot, the image looks like rainbow unicorn vomit.

60 fps is absolutely essential, and "muh cinematic" is a hilarious meme. There are very few games where 30 fps is actually acceptable (birdview strategy games, simulators like Flight Simulator etc).

THis game doesnt need 60fps this just goes to show its not essential, its just kiddish naive thinking when people cry about 60fps in a few years there will be more naive kiddish adults crying about 1000fps being essential. Theres never an essential frame rate depends on the developer goals. 30fps cinematic graphical pixar experience or 60fps fast gameplay experience. You can put a billion memes but it is what it is. There will be 30 fps games even when playstation 10 comes out.

 

[abel empire]

Nothing needs to make me happy im just being rational. Facts is facts

 

[Heisenberg007]

Good luck to PS5 with RT in these scene, i mean the resolution might scale down to 1080p if they want to keep 60fps going

Nice try. Native 4K + 30 FPS. Dynamic 4K / 60 FPS. It's the PS5 that eats the consoles that eat monsters for breakfast, not any other console, so it won't struggle

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

THis game doesnt need 60fps this just goes to show its not essential, its just kiddish naive thinking when people cry about 60fps in a few years there will be more naive kiddish adults crying about 1000fps being essential. Theres never an essential frame rate depends on the developer goals. 30fps cinematic graphical pixar experience or 60fps fast gameplay experience. You can put a billion memes but it is what it is. There will be 30 fps games even when playstation 10 comes out.

R&C has always been 60FPS since 2002 until the release of Into the Nexus in 2013, so out of 12 games only 2 were 30FPS the aforementioned ITN and the 2016 remake that just got upped to 60 on PS5.

Yes a stable 30 and even with minor dipe is FAR from unplayable but 60 is better, i don't know about 120 since my TV doesn't support it and i don't feel the need for it honestly since i think 60 is the sweet spot for gaming.

 

[abel empire]

Nice try. Native 4K + 30 FPS. Dynamic 4K / 60 FPS. It's the PS5 that eats the consoles that eat monsters for breakfast, not any other console, so it won't struggle

Miles morales was using stochastic raytracing basically ras where bouncing on an open world at 4k30+ and dynamic 4k60 so i domt get his point and this game doesnt even need 60fps its already smooth as anything. Imfact some 60fps games arent as smooth as this.

 

[Krizalidx11]

Nice try. Native 4K + 30 FPS. Dynamic 4K / 60 FPS. It's the PS5 that eats the consoles that eat monsters for breakfast, not any other console, so it won't struggle

Heisenberg, RNK is PS5 exclusive so no need to mention other consoles


We can talk about the 70$ for the base game though

 

[Krizalidx11]

Miles morales was using stochastic raytracing basically ras where bouncing on an open world at 4k30+ and dynamic 4k60 so i domt get his point and this game doesnt even need 60fps its already smooth as anything. Imfact some 60fps games arent as smooth as this.

 

[abel empire]

R&C has always been 60FPS since 2002 until the release of Into the Nexus in 2013, so out of 12 games only 2 were 30FPS the aforementioned ITN and the 2016 remake that just got upped to 60 on PS5.

Yes a stable 30 and even with minor dipe is FAR from unplayable but 60 is better, i don't know about 120 since my TV doesn't support it and i don't feel the need for it honestly since i think 60 is the sweet spot for gaming.

Ratchet and clank games where 60fps for a reason, smooth animations where expensive backthen devs didmt have enough memory to store smooth animations and motion blur wasnt available back then, no ratchet and clank game even those at 60fps are as smooth as this game. It doesnt need 60fps the graphics presentation that insomniac has managed to pull in this game is all it ever needed. A 60fps mode is just gimmicks.

 

[mxbison]

Tell me one PS2 game with a side-by-side screenshots that look similar to Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart.

Here is the PS2 comparison.



And you're coming out as real ignorant or a huge anti-PS fanboy right now. Pick one.

Honestly not that impressive for 20 years difference IMO.

Part of that is also because R&C games always looked great though.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Miles morales was using stochastic raytracing basically ras where bouncing on an open world at 4k30+ and dynamic 4k60 so i domt get his point and this game doesnt even need 60fps its already smooth as anything. Imfact some 60fps games arent as smooth as this.

He doesn't have one. He is just trolling.

 

[abel empire]

Goodluck go find more memes!