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[EDMIX]

I know at the time people were saying they decided to announce Starfield and Elder Scroll 6 like that at that E3 because of all the fallout (pun intended) from Fallout 76. A kind of 'what the fuck did you guys do with 76.......oh shit a new game......OH SHIT Elder Scrolls 6!!!, all is forgiven Todd!'

lol I mean that is how I feel, but I'm more forgiving on stuff like that. Flops happen and Fallout 76 shouldn't bother anyone with buying a new fallout title anymore then the FF MMO titles. I feel those reveals had them on the back of their heels like "please don't be mad, we still making fucking single player games cuh CHILL" lol

I get why they'd want to really market that as I feel the community just exaggerates anything like this.

 

[harmny]

I know at the time people were saying they decided to announce Starfield and Elder Scroll 6 like that at that E3 because of all the fallout (pun intended) from Fallout 76. A kind of 'what the fuck did you guys do with 76.......oh shit a new game......OH SHIT Elder Scrolls 6!!!, all is forgiven Todd!'

Well it's true. But Todd is smart so he went silent again after that. We know tes vi Is going to be a 2026 launch at least

 

[Stuart360]

lol I mean that is how I feel, but I'm more forgiving on stuff like that. Flops happen and Fallout 76 shouldn't bother anyone with buying a new fallout title anymore then the FF MMO titles. I feel those reveals had them on the back of their heels like "please don't be mad, we still making fucking single player games cuh CHILL" lol

I get why they'd want to really market that as I feel the community just exaggerates anything like this.

It def could of been partly that as well.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

When Microsoft first announced the Bethesda buy, and they had that 'roundtable' with Todd, Phil, etc, they were talking about Starfield, and how Todd likes to show his games at E3, and launch a few months later in fall. Todd says he doesnt like it when games get first revealed 3 or 4 years out, and you get the game at like 4 E3's in a row etc. He also said there may be big news coming sooner than people think with Starfield.

They plan these roundtable events, they dont say anything by mistake. IMO they were hinting at Starfield being fully revealed at E3, and a fall launch.
It may not happen because of Covid, but i think that is the plan.

It actually would be smart for them to do that.

Outside of Halo, RE8 and Horizon we don't have a lot of big games coming out this year. Halo and Horizon don't even have solid release dates so there is that, this game would benefit a lot because of the lack of competition compared to if it got released in 2022.

 

[harmny]

When Microsoft first announced the Bethesda buy, and they had that 'roundtable' with Todd, Phil, etc, they were talking about Starfield, and how Todd likes to show his games at E3, and launch a few months later in fall. Todd says he doesnt like it when games get first revealed 3 or 4 years out, and you get the game at like 4 E3's in a row etc. He also said there may be big news coming sooner than people think with Starfield.

They plan these roundtable events, they dont say anything by mistake. IMO they were hinting at Starfield being fully revealed at E3, and a fall launch.
It may not happen because of Covid, but i think that is the plan.

He did say that. Then why did he announced tes vi 10 years before launch and starfield 3 years before launch? Oh right because he released a trainwreck called fallout 76 and refused to offer refunds

 

[EDMIX]

It actually would be smart for them to do that.

Outside of Halo, RE8 and Horizon we don't have a lot of big games coming out this year. Halo and Horizon don't even have solid release dates so there is that, this game would benefit a lot because of the lack of competition compared to if it got released in 2022.

True, but don't forget the usual Battlefields VI, Call Of Duty, what ever Ubisoft wants to surprise us with.

harmny Not really. Fallout 76 had not released yet when that E3 happened. It was an E3 FOR Fallout 76 and they also revealed Elder Scrolls, Starfield etc. We can say they knew it would be a bad launch or they wouldn't give refunds etc, but we can't say its because they "released a trainwreck" because at the time that reveal happens, Fallout 76 didn't release yet.

 

[Stuart360]

Well it's true. But Todd is smart so he went silent again after that. We know tes vi Is going to be a 2026 launch at least

IF Starfield releases this fall, i could see Elder Scrolls 6 hitting 2025, possible even 2024. Todd confirmed they have had devs working on it on the side, while the majority of staff have been on Starfield. Now most of these devs have probably just been making assets, maybe designing some simple mechanics, etc, but we just dont know how much work has already been done on ES6.

 

[harmny]

IF Starfield releases this fall, i could see Elder Scrolls 6 hitting 2025, possible even 2024. Todd confirmed they have had devs working on it on the side, while the majority of staff have been on Starfield. Now most of these devs have probably just been making assets, maybe designing some simple mechanics, etc, but we just dont know how much work has already been done on ES6.

No chance in hell. After starfield release at the end of this year you have the dlcs and then tes vi

 

[GHG]

Considering we've seen nothing this seems quite soon.

Hopefully it's not bugfield.

 

[Stuart360]

No chance in hell. After starfield release at the end of this year you have the dlcs and then tes vi

Cool, i think there is a chance. It just depends how much work has already been done on ES6.

 

[Varteras]

I really hope they got their shit together after Fallout 76 and don't rush this game out the door to meet some kind of executive demand. I'm super curious what this game actually is and how it will play. What kind of depth it will have. Will it be a typical Bethesda RPG or are they going for something different? Like at this point they say Fallout or Elder Scrolls and we know what we're getting, for the most part. Their first new IP in a damn long time and we still know nothing about it except it is apparently in space. It's exciting but I'm also cautious. As far as it releasing this year, I have my doubts.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

It’s going to be fallout in space with the creation engine isn’t it.

If you mean a wildly successful game that modders will keep fresh for the next decade, then I hope so. I mean, we all joke about Skyrim, but people keep buying it every time it gets ported somewhere.

Edit - Remember this game has been in full production since August 2016 when Nuka World was finished.

 

[Hendrick's]

He did say that. Then why did he announced tes vi 10 years before launch and starfield 3 years before launch? Oh right because he released a trainwreck called fallout 76 and refused to offer refunds

 

[Batiman]

I want to see this damn game already. What are people’s expectations?

 

[Hendrick's]

I want to see this damn game already. What are people’s expectations?

Bethesda game in space.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

I believe that Flight Simulator, Wolfenstein III, Forza Horizon 5 and Halo Infinite will be Aug/Sept/Oct and Nov releases with Starfield getting delayed to March 2022.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I'm taking the impression that nothing of note will be released this year honestly. This will be great gaming drought of 2020-21.

Hope I'm wrong but at least my expectation will be in check.

Everyone's smart to get out of the way of Goodbye Volcano High

 

[Mr_Potato]

Starfield Scheduled for Late 2021 Launch, Barring COVID-Related Delays – Rumour

gamingbolt.com

GamesBeat journalist Jeff Grubb recently said during a Dealer Gaming stream that the plan for Bethesda is to follow a marketing and launch cycle for Starfield similar to that of Fallout 4. According to Grubb, there’s a 90% likelihood that the game’s going to be unveiled in full at E3, and then will launch later in the year itself. He says that that’s what Bethesda has planned right now, barring any COVID-related delays and hurdles, of course.

Other insiders have also recently suggested that launching Starfield in late 2021 is part of Bethesda’s plan, with COVID being the only potential complication.

He also tweeted Starfield was years away... I doubt he has any clue.

 

[iHaunter]

We don't even have a real trailer for it yet. Def going to be shown this E3ish event.

 

[CatLady]

IF Starfield releases this fall, i could see Elder Scrolls 6 hitting 2025, possible even 2024. Todd confirmed they have had devs working on it on the side, while the majority of staff have been on Starfield. Now most of these devs have probably just been making assets, maybe designing some simple mechanics, etc, but we just dont know how much work has already been done on ES6.

I think that's entirely possible since BGS now has 4 studios instead of just one. They can work on multiple project at the same time.

 

[Warablo]

Another Fallout 76 in the making.

Fallout 76 was trying to be a MMO. Starfield is at least a single player rpg.

 

[Perrott]

When Microsoft first announced the Bethesda buy, and they had that 'roundtable' with Todd, Phil, etc, they were talking about Starfield, and how Todd likes to show his games at E3, and launch a few months later in fall. Todd says he doesnt like it when games get first revealed 3 or 4 years out, and you get the game at like 4 E3's in a row etc. He also said there may be big news coming sooner than people think with Starfield.

They plan these roundtable events, they dont say anything by mistake. IMO they were hinting at Starfield being fully revealed at E3, and a fall launch.
It may not happen because of Covid, but i think that is the plan.

Yeah, and we also know that Starfield was one of the titles that Sony tried to get a timed exclusive deal on - and it's worth pointing out that they were mostly targeting 2021 releases when locking these exclusives.

Starfield is definitely a 2021 game, or at least it is planned to be.

 

[reksveks]

He also tweeted Starfield was years away... I doubt he has any clue.

Or he got updated information from his sources

 

[jakinov]

no chance. A game thats been talked about for years and hasn't released anything. This game is a year or 2 away

So... No real trailers but it's definitely coming out in 8 months?

OooooooOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhHhhhh

You know that the trend for a while has been to release media on their game closer to release. Especially with Bethesda who usually announces a lot of their games at their press conference near E3 for release the same year.

 

[Hooks]

So... No real trailers but it's definitely coming out in 8 months?

OooooooOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhHhhhh

Bruh they did this with Fallout 4... They had the trailer at E3 in June and released the game in November..

 

[LokusAbriss]

Can't wait for the inevitable trailer with "Xbox & Windows 10 Exclusive... World Premiere..."

 

[German Hops]

Wait, there's actually going to be an e3 this year?

 

[Little Chicken]

Halo, Starfield, possibly Forza Horizon 5. Would be a nice ending to the first year of the new generation.

 

[The Hamburglar]

If you mean a wildly successful game that modders will keep fresh for the next decade, then I hope so. I mean, we all joke about Skyrim, but people keep buying it every time it gets ported somewhere.

Edit - Remember this game has been in full production since August 2016 when Nuka World was finished.

The last two fallout games I played were fo4 and stint at 76 and both were shit.

Fo4 for a main like game was incredibly shit. Part of the reason is the severely limiting engine. Slapping a space skin on it won’t make it any better.
Not sure what Skyrim has got to do with it? People keep buying resident evil 4 but they made 5 and 6 after it..

 

[bender]

Considering we've seen nothing this seems quite soon.

Hopefully it's not bugfield.

 

[n0body]

December release for Starfield would be nice, and would give it some breathing room after the usual November madness.

 

[Starfield]

Or he got updated information from his sources

That tweet happened a few days before the leak happened. After the leak happened...well some opinions changed.

 

[GymWolf]

2021?

 

[Jadsey]

If Starfield is this year, there are probably contracts in place with PlayStation already.

I can't believe it would be though...unless I've missed something, I've only seen a logo this point.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

The last two fallout games I played were fo4 and stint at 76 and both were shit.

Fo4 for a main like game was incredibly shit. Part of the reason is the severely limiting engine. Slapping a space skin on it won’t make it any better.
Not sure what Skyrim has got to do with it? People keep buying resident evil 4 but they made 5 and 6 after it..

FO76 I understand, but I need to know an answer to a question concerning Fallout 4. Why is that game criticized for the various reasons it is, while Fallout 3 is generally given a blanket pass in people's minds? For God's sake the only narrative choice in that game is to nuke Megaton, and even that mass murder just gets you a stern talking to from daddy dearest.

 

[Orpheum]

IF Starfield releases this fall, i could see Elder Scrolls 6 hitting 2025, possible even 2024. Todd confirmed they have had devs working on it on the side, while the majority of staff have been on Starfield. Now most of these devs have probably just been making assets, maybe designing some simple mechanics, etc, but we just dont know how much work has already been done on ES6.

Yep, a 2025 release seems plausible to me as well

 

[martino]

Fallout 76 was trying to be a MMO. Starfield is at least a single player rpg.

This and last single player Bethesda games are 10M+ games with 80+% of positive user review (relying on steam ones having at least 10 times more feedback than others ones)
Who care about what some people on gaf feel about the games (and surely more about Bethesda "situation") to indicate anything about next ones to come.

 

[Guileless]

Is there a book somewhere taking bets on Starfield's release? I'd put a lot on OVER 12.31.21.

 

[kingpotato]

You know that the trend for a while has been to release media on their game closer to release. Especially with Bethesda who usually announces a lot of their games at their press conference near E3 for release the same year.

Bruh they did this with Fallout 4... They had the trailer at E3 in June and released the game in November..

Skyrim had a gameplay trailer 22 months before release.

I would rather it be true, it just seems unlikely. Can't wait to be flat wrong.

 

[Hendrick's]

Well it's true. But Todd is smart so he went silent again after that. We know tes vi Is going to be a 2026 launch at least

Also 76 was not a Todd Howard game. It was a BGS Austin team game lead by Jeff Gardiner. So it was the first non TH BGS game made outside the Maryland primary studio. Starfield is a TH BGS Maryland game.

 

[SoggyBiscuit]

I have a feeling Starfield will get pushed to 2022 and it'll contain all the shite base-building elements of Fallout 4. Hope to be surprised though.

 

[harmny]

Also 76 was not a Todd Howard game. It was a BGS Austin team game lead by Jeff Gardiner. So it was the first non TH BGS game made outside the Maryland primary studio. Starfield is a TH BGS Maryland game.

yes but he was still executive producer though and at the top of the credits so...

 

[Balducci30]

Doubt it’ll be 2021. But I also doubt horizon or god of war will release this year as wel

 

[KungFucius]

If this game launches this coming holiday, many will be so starved they will finish every point of interest on the map.

 

[jakinov]

Skyrim had a gameplay trailer 22 months before release.

I would rather it be true, it just seems unlikely. Can't wait to be flat wrong.

Skyrim also came out almost 10 years ago. This is a relatively recent trend. Fallout 4 was both announced and it's first gameplay reveal 5-6 months before it released. The same for Fallout 76.

Now if we look at other games from same publisher. The last wolfenstein was announced a little over a year before it released but it's the same boat where it was announced but the game wasn't shown until later much closer to release. The wolfenstein before that is 5 months between announcement and release.

Doom eternal was announced early too but the actual game again wasn't shown until 3-4 month before it was planned/supposed to come out..

 

[kingpotato]

Skyrim also came out almost 10 years ago. This is a relatively recent trend. Fallout 4 was both announced and it's first gameplay reveal 5-6 months before it released. The same for Fallout 76.

Now if we look at other games from same publisher. The last wolfenstein was announced a little over a year before it released but it's the same boat where it was announced but the game wasn't shown until later much closer to release. The wolfenstein before that is 5 months between announcement and release.

Doom eternal was announced early too but the actual game again wasn't shown until 3-4 month before it was planned/supposed to come out..

Well now things are really getting mixed around because you are jumping not only to different studios but even jumping from gameplay (which I was referencing in my original post) to announcements.

Also everything you referenced were part of established franchises.

There are a lot of variables in play here and that didn't even take into account the broader climate, which includes the pandemic and recent acquisition.

I'm still skeptical of any game dropping without any massive media push that includes gameplay in just a handful of months, but it could happen.

Maybe they have to take into account the loss of sales from being platform restricted and forced onto gamepass and will scale the effort way back. Who can say? It's all speculation until the company confirms, even if there are "insiders" and journos spouting off.

 

[LisaMariaMartin]

If Starfield is this year, there are probably contracts in place with PlayStation already.

I can't believe it would be though...unless I've missed something, I've only seen a logo this point.

I guess no one told Jim Ryan about that contract. Maybe its a surprise.

 

[driqe]

I guess no one told Jim Ryan about that contract. Maybe its a surprise.

maybe shawn layden forgot to tell him about the contract before he left?

 

[yurinka]

It actually would be smart for them to do that.

Outside of Halo, RE8 and Horizon we don't have a lot of big games coming out this year. Halo and Horizon don't even have solid release dates so there is that, this game would benefit a lot because of the lack of competition compared to if it got released in 2022.

God of War Ragnarok is a 2021 game and if they really plan to release "switch pro" this year, very likely BOTW2 will be a late 2021 game too. Having other exclusives like Ratchet, Deathloop, Ghostwire Tokyo, Kena, Guilty Gear Strive or the FFVII thing, if Sony pushed GT7 to next year it's because they are very confident with their packed 2021.

 

[Stuart360]

I guess no one told Jim Ryan about that contract. Maybe its a surprise.

I think there IS a chance that Starfield could come to PS5, but i certainly wouldnt count on it.
We already Know Sony tried, and failed, to get some exclusivity deal with Starfield. And we also know from Todd and Phil that Microsoft and Bethesda had been negotiating the sale of Bethesda since 2018.

So yeah dont count on Starfield coming to PS5, but i wouldnt 100% rule it out.