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DF: Control PS5 Vs Xbox Series X Raytracing Benchmark
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Leyasu
Banned
OK no worries.
At the moment the console that received widespread for it's ease of use before launch is performing great in some launch window games. It is far too early to be declaring bottlenecks or anything else.
shenmue mugen
Member
Comparing these like for like shots I think it's clear that the PS5 version has a slight edge in texture filtering and RT detail in some scenes.
There are situations that PS5 will perform better and vice versa. Both console are extremely capable.
There are situations that PS5 will perform better and vice versa. Both console are extremely capable.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Literal text appearing on screen is hurting Xbox performance. Clear sign those are optimization issues/bugs that will be fixed.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Enjoy your low settings and keep trolling.
I got a PC with Ryzen 2700x, Radeon VII, 32GB RAM, etc. I play on PS5 because it's a simpler and better experience without Windows BS and broken ports.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Enjoy your low settings and keep trolling.
Well of course PC is always going to be better. Everyone knows that.
As for the settings Digital Foundry did say they are the same on both systems. So if the PS5 has low settings for RT the same is true for XSX according to Digital Foundry unless I'm making a mistake somewhere.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
That's BS, it's during gameplay and they even cut it out at 11:13 when it was dipping to mid 40's:
Loxus
Member
These kind of findings you found is what made DF who they are.
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DF used to find the differences in every area.
Nowadays all they do is look at Resolution and Framerate.
BootsLoader
Banned
You’re mistaken in the PS3 - XBOX 360 part. PS3 was faaaar more better, it just took time to learn how to build games and take advantage of the system.Pretending to miss the point
The thing i find fascinating is ... playstation was always weaker than all its competition, historically. ps1 weaker than n64. ps2 was used as a mop by xbox and gamecube. xbox 360 was doing circles around ps3. The only anomaly was with the ps4 vs xbox one. The way things are now is just the natural order of things. Why are sony fans having so much difficulty coming to terms with this, when this was the situation their entire history ?
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Ah, name calling, the tactic of the desperate.
Instead of being rude why don't you answer my question? When was the last time any benchmark was done with Photomode? What exactly are we supposed to get from this?
Don't come at me with theoretical bullshit either. What is doing a benchmark when physics, AI and other CPU tasks are completely turned off supposed to tell us?
The narrative that some of you guys have been pushing since before this gen started hasn't played out at all and now you are scraping the bottom of the barrel of with this bullshit to soften the blows to your egos, it's hilarious and sad at the same time.
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Exanthus
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Here you are again. Just couldn't help yourself huh.Xbox Series X is the most powerful in Control... Only in photo mode.
In gameplay? Well, performance dips to 40's fps. Well, when it went to 45fps DF cut the clip out:
This only shows that the system has more bottlenecks that kill the potential of the GPU. Both in Graphics and Performance modes PS5 has the upper hand, as always.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yup, putting evidence where my words at from the main source, while you are here acting like I stole your candy.
JimboJones
Member
So you're just dense then. Got it.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well, at the end:
PS5: Wins in Graphics and Performance modes.
XSX: Wins in Photo mode. (Is it, though? Because it's using lower graphics and less complex RT as shown on DF's video).
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Your name calling makes you even more dense. You can argue a point without resorting to insults. What are you, 12?
This shit isn't that serious. We are discussing videogames, no need to bring up petty insults, makes you look immature and dumb.
MasterCornholio
Member
I prefer benchmarks with gameplay because that's what I'm interested in when I'm deciding between two versions.
But using photomode does give us an idea of what the strengths and weaknesses are with each platform when the CPU doesn't have to do a lot of work. at least that's what I'm seeing from this analysis.
But it terms of just regular gameplay I don't think there's a significant difference between the two. At least nothing on the same level as Hitman 3.
That's my take on this.
AnotherOne
Member
I thought some of you guys were excluding this comparison because it was in photo mode but now it's legit because ps5 has higher lod detail.. 
MasterCornholio
Member
I prefer benchmarks with gameplay because that's what I'm interested in when I'm deciding between two versions.
But using photomode does give us an idea of what the strengths and weaknesses are with each platform when the CPU doesn't have to do a lot of work. at least that's what I'm seeing from this analysis.
But it terms of just regular gameplay I don't think there's a significant difference between the two. At least nothing on the same level as Hitman
I enjoy reading arguments between different users but I don't like it when they use insults to prove a point. Calling someone mentally retarded isn't necessary in my opinion.
Just trash their rebuttal with a good argument. That's the best way to do something like this.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Looks like it.
None of this matters anyway, both consoles are very close in performance and this completely shits on the false narratives we were hearing before this gen started.
I personally wouldn't care if PS5 was coming out lower in these benchmarks since Sony didn't market it as the "monster that eats monsters for breakfast".
I got the PS5 for exclusives and I have my PC for multiplats. The fact the PS5 usually comes out on top in these benchmarks is a funny and welcome surprise for me.
I can sort of see why those that were misled by fake insiders and tech experts into thinking there would be a huge gap between the consoles are grasping at straws like this "Photomode benchmark". It helps them feel more secure in their purchase which in turn helps them sleep better at night.
Exanthus
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Lol of evidence you mean your own little conspiracy theory you have going on with every DF video... ThEy CuT tHe ViDeO wHeN iT hIt 40fps.
Eh, I'll leave it at that and use the ignore feature.
shenmue mugen
Member
I couldn't find on DF's video this drop to the 40s you mentioned. It drops to 55fps at worst.
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Tickle My Tendies
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DF and Remedy (you know, the freakin' devs) both said that XsX and PS5 are running at identical settings. I think I will trust DF and the devs of the game more than fanboys on Twitter who start Spin Campaign Fever every time something positive happens for something associated with Microsoft. "Oh, XsX won HItman 3???? NOT ON OUR WATCH, TIME TO CHERRY PICK SOME BULLSHIT!!!!!!"
The XsX and PS5 are running RT reflections at Lower Than Low. They (the reflections) aren't native res, they are checkerboarded. That's worse than PC's Low setting.
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MasterCornholio
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FatKingBallman
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The modder that did the Bloodborne 60fps mod posted on YouTube.
While I was on YouTube reading through some comment on another video.
This video to be exact:
I saw this comment and it made me wonder what are the Digital Foundry crew background in terms of Technical Knowledge of Video Game Programming.
To be honest, I only view DF for videos like the God of War Showcase, as they tend to show many things I may miss.
Not for benchmarks, I can find better channel then DF for that.
But DF have to shop being one sided with these analysis and benchmarks.
Why are they promoting this console war nonsense so much.
Of course, i don't have a clue how Photomode GPU benchmarking works, but when some modders or developers called out Alex Bataglia ( who is considered a tech pro guy ) for this Photomode benchmarking comparison and how benchmarking works in Photomode and CPU is in idle ( but Alex doens't know this ), then Alex's objectivity and knowledge is questionable
IMO, DF should stick to graphics comparison and fps measures in real gameplay like they are doing for years. But benchmarking like this should put aside
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Bo_Hazem
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Go ahead, I barely see you around, so not missing you. And that's called evidence not conspiracy when everyone here can go back and see for him/herself.
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ethomaz
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MasterCornholio
Member
Ok but both the XSX and the PS5 have the same level of RT though. I made a mistake saying they were low settings but both versions use the same level.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Corridor of Doom, running back-and-forth and stopping at the same spot as DF.
CPU Usage, Ryzen 5 1600, In-game, PS5/XSX settings, 2060 Super:
CPU Usage, Ryzen 5 1600, In-game, PS5/XSX settings, 2060 Super:
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Assuming it's the same settings, it's either the lovely VRS or SFS gimping the final image quality, just like in Dirt 5.
OverHeat
« generous god »
I got more crash and BS on both my PS5 and Series X since launch then on my pc.
Exanthus
Banned
This 100%
Bo_Hazem
Banned
The graph MUST get to the middle vertical line to register the FPS. So it was few seconds ahead, hence they cut the clip before it shows up. Go watch the video again and stop in different locations and you'll understand how it works.
Sir Vilhelm
Member
You weren't kidding lol
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
In both of those the PS5 is closer to the camera. more than enough for those differences to pop.
waquzy
Member
Sure buddy
FatKingBallman
Banned
So, miniscule CPU usage?
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
29% Overall, ~60% main thread. Yes, lower usage than just standing in a random spot pretty much anywhere.
shenmue mugen
Member
Oh...I see what you mean now. Yeah, in that moment the line went really down to the 40s.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Bo_Hazem
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JimboJones
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No point in this case when the person is being purposefully obtuse.
The video already explains it's a purely academic exercise in relative performance between the two boxes.
You an cry "why why why do a video like this", because it's digital foundry, this is what they do, unsubscribe if you don't like there findings, and subscribe to Yourfavbox-fan on twitter instead.
I pointed it out in a post.
It also clear why the photomode is used, its been pointed out in the video and in posts, what more can I do?
I can only surmise they are dense or just flat out ignoring the information already presented.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Dont have it on PS5And that's, ladies and gentlemen, was CyberPunk 2077 haunting it.
martino
Member
my main thread never goes that high (more ~50%)...but my 7700k is oced to 4.9ghz so it can explain that.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Dont have it on PS5
Well, it seems to do with luck, and I appreciate that you showed this. Personally, I rarely run to crashes.
So you've had 5 errors in over 2.5 months on a system that just launched... I've had more issues on Windows 10 in the past 2-3 days lmao
Loxus
Member
I'm sorry to say, but the closer farther thing your running with is so minor it doesn't make sense even mentioning.
Two or Three feet difference, yes. But not the centimeter difference in those images.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Stop
Stop Watching Porn, Downloading shit and keep your PC in order lmao
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
They have to pop in at some point
And just a tip . You've got to be like Columbo in these threads.
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