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Ailynn
Faith - Hope - Love
Okay, so...I got 120 stars in Mario 64 again. It's probably the 20th time I've done it now. I love that game. It's still fun all these years later. Good times!
Then, I excitedly started in on Mario Sunshine.
I remember now why I never played the game again once I collected all the possible Shines back when it came out. It's by far the most frustrating Mario game I've ever played. The stress of obtaining some of those shines back then probably permanently shortened my lifespan.
Completing Mario Sunshine 100% before was something I'm proud to have accomplished, but I cannot allow myself to be subjected to that torture a second time.
Mario,
I am sorry, my friend...
Then, I excitedly started in on Mario Sunshine.
I remember now why I never played the game again once I collected all the possible Shines back when it came out. It's by far the most frustrating Mario game I've ever played. The stress of obtaining some of those shines back then probably permanently shortened my lifespan.
Completing Mario Sunshine 100% before was something I'm proud to have accomplished, but I cannot allow myself to be subjected to that torture a second time.
Mario,
I am sorry, my friend...
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DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Mario does not forgive.Okay, so...I got 120 stars in Mario 64 again. It's probably the 20th time I've done it now. I love that game. It's still fun all these years later. Good times!
Then, I excitedly started in on Mario Sunshine.
I remember now why I never played the game again once I collected all the Shines in the game back when it came out. It's by far the most frustrating Mario game I've ever played. I honestly believe obtaining some of those shines back then may have permanently shortened my lifespan.
I've 100% completed Sunshine before, but I cannot allow myself to be subjected to that torture a second time.
Mario, I am sorry...
Shaqazooloo
Member
3D World was too safe and lacked too much excitement to be anything really special imo.
It a good game and a really good Platformer but it was bland in comparison to other 3D Mario's.
It a good game and a really good Platformer but it was bland in comparison to other 3D Mario's.
ExpandKong
Banned
Okay, so...I got 120 stars in Mario 64 again. It's probably the 20th time I've done it now. I love that game. It's still fun all these years later. Good times!
Then, I excitedly started in on Mario Sunshine.
I remember now why I never played the game again once I collected all the possible Shines back when it came out. It's by far the most frustrating Mario game I've ever played. The stress of obtaining some of those shines back then probably permanently shortened my lifespan.
Completing Mario Sunshine 100% before was something I'm proud to have accomplished, but I cannot allow myself to be subjected to that torture a second time.
Mario,
I am sorry, my friend...
"You'll be back"
cabbage5k2
Member
Okay, so...I got 120 stars in Mario 64 again. It's probably the 20th time I've done it now. I love that game. It's still fun all these years later. Good times!
Then, I excitedly started in on Mario Sunshine.
I remember now why I never played the game again once I collected all the possible Shines back when it came out. It's by far the most frustrating Mario game I've ever played. The stress of obtaining some of those shines back then probably permanently shortened my lifespan.
Completing Mario Sunshine 100% before was something I'm proud to have accomplished, but I cannot allow myself to be subjected to that torture a second time.
Mario,
I am sorry, my friend...
Luckily, most of the stars you actually have to clear are quite fun to play through tbh. Most of the levels, beyond the crap hotel one, are precursors to the playground philosophy of Odyssey. Although you can't quite grab the stars out of order without obscure glitches, you can approach the mission objectives in numerous ways a lot of the time, and the game actually does reward exploration quite often as well with blue coins and 1-ups. This, combine with Mario's mobility, makes this game quite a joy to traverse through. When you begin diving into the other shines in this game though... it falls apart. The obnoxious design of these stars, the technical problems you'll keep finding in these levels, the chore that is finding every god damn blue coin in this game, the piece of shit pachinko level... nothing works in that level, it doesn't even function as a thing that can exist in our reality...
Honestly, play that game for the joy of the level designs and the freedom you have to explore them, not to be a completionist about the game. For that matter, don't feel obliged to even complete the game either, as the last level is hotel levels bad :/
StormCell
Member
Sadly, I actually agree.
For all the hate Mario Sunshine gets, I'm enjoying every last bit of it. I look forward to revisiting Galaxy in a short while.
PS. I'm not 100 percenting it. Don't care to. I've gotten through the lousy levels I really hated in the past (ie. legendary wet bag of sand bird).
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Newly Vacant
Member
Any rumors as to the next character?
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
I hope it is another Fire Emblem character for maximum salt.
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Jooxed
Gold Member
-Arcadia-
Banned
About 3D World, I’ve come to appreciate it a lot more. It felt like the right Mario, but the wrong time, you know?
In 2013, with Nintendo just stepping into HD with some gorgeous results, what I wanted was a Mario game that was a showpiece for the system. I wanted a free camera. I wanted amazing visuals in a traditional style. I wanted gigantic environments to pan around and explore. I wanted Odyssey, lol
Moreover, Nintendo continuing a handheld design based around casual, simple fun, on console, after the back-to-back spectacle of Galaxy 1 and 2, didn’t sit right with me.
On its own merits though, I feel it is an amazing game, and I really feel like the upcoming Switch rerelease might finally be ‘the right time’.
In 2013, with Nintendo just stepping into HD with some gorgeous results, what I wanted was a Mario game that was a showpiece for the system. I wanted a free camera. I wanted amazing visuals in a traditional style. I wanted gigantic environments to pan around and explore. I wanted Odyssey, lol
Moreover, Nintendo continuing a handheld design based around casual, simple fun, on console, after the back-to-back spectacle of Galaxy 1 and 2, didn’t sit right with me.
On its own merits though, I feel it is an amazing game, and I really feel like the upcoming Switch rerelease might finally be ‘the right time’.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It's a Virtua Fighter character.
Gormless Noodle
Member
It'll be Monster Hunter guy/gal from Monster Hunter. Hope I'm wrong, so I'm probably right.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Who is even left that’s not in the game, lol?
I feel like we could be due for a big third party character. Maybe something from Microsoft with Halo and Minecraft? Either of those would be so much fun.
This feels like a really good pick.
I feel like we could be due for a big third party character. Maybe something from Microsoft with Halo and Minecraft? Either of those would be so much fun.
This feels like a really good pick.
Shaqazooloo
Member
Ring Fit Adventurer needs to get in!
ExpandKong
Banned
Mrs. Game & Watch
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
It's best 3D Mario, if you're in it for the platforming. 8 way controls feel laser-precise. And the 4p aspect was brushed off but it should be considered a feat. 4p 3D Mario? C'mon man, you know the thing. Why is this not taken into consideration? Hur hurr lemme be P2 and collect star bits with my Wiimote while you bing bing wahoo BEST 3D MARIO GAME.
The Bowser DLC better be good, though, or I'm skipping.
RingFit needs a sequel.
But the thought of a giant Ring monkey going OHHH KAAAYY!!! across the screen in a Final Smash makes me grin.
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
I've changed my mind.
Give me a Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE character so it is simultaneously Fire Emblem and not Fire Emblem.
Give me a Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE character so it is simultaneously Fire Emblem and not Fire Emblem.
Gormless Noodle
Member
I swear to god if I see one more FE character in Smash I'm gonna beat Sakurai up by literally smashing three houses on his head.
ExpandKong
Banned
4P simultaneous 3D Mario is indeed a feat but the thing is it's a feat I don't give a shit about lol. I'm not buying these games to play multiplayer. 3D World is still a fine game though.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Gimme the main character from SMT Nocturne, then.
But it's still a Virtua Fighter character, guys.
But it's still a Virtua Fighter character, guys.
Newly Vacant
Member
Is there an iconic Monster Hunter character or player avatar? Monster Hunter would be a good synergy at the moment, but I don't know if there's a design that's recognizably "Monster Hunter!"
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Give me Viewtiful Joe. He deserves to be back in gaming.
-Arcadia-
Banned
I very well might not be. 64 and Sunshine, alongside the Galaxies, both changed my thinking on what a Mario game could be, with the former pulling towards exploration, and the latter pulling towards just sheer overjoyed, magical fun in gameplay .
All have truly amazing platforming (maybe 64 a little less?), but yeah, it’s not 100%, all the time. 3D World might be the purest Mario in quite some time.
I just don’t necessarily think that equals best Mario anymore. But I totally understand if you do. Comparing these games is like comparing the most delicious chocolate cake of your lifetime, to the most perfect cheesecake anyone ever tasted. Nobody is wrong. Everybody is winning.
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
Real talk-if I had to pick a character I would go with a SMT character (SMT V protag? Jack Frost?) or some combination of Xenoblade 2 characters (Rex+Pyra/Mythra).
-Arcadia-
Banned
Monster Hunter’s style itself is seriously visually iconic. I’d recognize that armor anywhere.
Okay.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
They all exist on a spectrum, of sorts, and 3D World definitely seems like the "purest". Doesn't mean it will be everyone's favorite Mario, of course. I think it'll remain pretty obscure / unpopular and won't ever reach the adoration of SM64 or SMG, or even Odyssey.
Multiplayer extends the life of these games significantly, especially since this one has drop-in mp. It might not be on your radar now, but someone who might not be interested to replay 3D World solo could be convinced to have another go in 2p (or 4p) mode, just for the spectacle of it all. I played through the game solo but continue circling back on levels when playing w my kids.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I don't have friends so multiplayer doesn't do a whole lot for me.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Astral Dog
Member
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ExpandKong
Banned
I GUESS
My kids aren't really old enough to play with me yet but my daughter loves watching. We finished Mario Galaxy a few weeks ago, then we started Galaxy 2 the next day and she was very distraught that the princess was kidnapped again hahah.
-Arcadia-
Banned
I really think the Switch release will change things. People have had the big, gigantic, traditionally ambitious Mario, and I think they might be ready for something back to basics.
I have never played multiplayer, for more than a single session, sadly. I’m hoping to change that with this one, and finally see what that part of the game is all about.
Btw, I hope I haven’t slipped on showing how brilliant I think the game is. So much childlike joy and fun to all these stages, with Nintendo doing its thing of constantly introducing amazing new ideas, and polish beyond any other developer. All wrapped up in amazing visuals and music.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
That's what I'm REALLY looking forward to. New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe Penis feels too cramped for multiplayer and the camera is unhelpful, but the space afforded by 3D means I should be able to play it with my wife without either of hurling any controllers at the TV. That feels like a step in the right direction.
cabbage5k2
Member
I'm game for it being Adult Tiki or Seiros.
-Arcadia-
Banned
WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING IT THAT
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Lotta 3D World fans point out how the post-game content is much more challenging / interesting, while detractors mention that the main campaign is fairly easy.
But there's actually a much harder difficulty mode available from the start, called 'Cat Herding Simulator'. Unlock it by giving each of your kids a controller and a cat suit and then attempt to finish the stage without losing all your lives.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Because that's what it's called - if it wants me to call it anything else it needs to have a less stupidly long name.
Nicktendo_
Banned
3D World is the true sequel to Super Mario World and the most fun I've ever had with a 3D Mario game.
The GOAT.
Fight me.
The GOAT.
Fight me.
Astral Dog
Member
I like 3D World but i think the game is held back by some things.
The overall presentation and artsyle is a little safe for 3D Mario after the amazing GALAXY pushed the limits on Wii,cat suit couldn't make up for the blandness, they had an amazing thing with Bowsers amusement park but it was totally wasted just a random level with a few perks.
The focus on multiplayer and simple controls affects the level design, its still a fun game (more than Odyssey imo) but very very easy until the post game worlds at least GALAXY 2, Sunshine and 64 had good challenge for completing the game, World unfortunately doesn't.
The game felt like a bit of a devolution at the time even if its still awesome.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Btw, I’m not sure this even qualifies as music anymore, it’s so weird, but I absolutely love how playful and fun this track is. A complete earworm I was humming for months.
So much of the music is like this. And I absolutely adore that sax that plays over the world with the Goombas just chilling in their floaties, lol, but sadly can’t find it.
So much of the music is like this. And I absolutely adore that sax that plays over the world with the Goombas just chilling in their floaties, lol, but sadly can’t find it.
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ExpandKong
Banned
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
3D World sounds like it was aimed directly at N64/Gamecube ears don't you think
-Arcadia-
?
It did not have the orchestra of Galaxy / Odyssey but they didnn't cheap out with wah wah music again. It evoked the tone of the N64 sound chip, with real instruments mixed in plentifully.
More instrumental
More sound-chippy
-Arcadia-
? It did not have the orchestra of Galaxy / Odyssey but they didnn't cheap out with wah wah music again. It evoked the tone of the N64 sound chip, with real instruments mixed in plentifully.
More instrumental
More sound-chippy
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
Tiki would be a cool pick. Magic user.
-Arcadia-
Banned
-Arcadia-
Banned
3D World sounds like it was aimed directly at N64/Gamecube ears don't you think
Definitely. I kind of thought Galaxy 2 was heading too far in the direction of ‘serious’, orchestral music. There was one level in particular where I recall it actually kind of overpowering everything and kind of annoying me, in a peaceful, chill level. Like just chill out a bit.
I think 3D World was a nice scale-back to having epic orchestras and real instruments, but also playing with weird, synthesized, utterly Mario sounds, and creating completely memorable melodies. The latter is very important to Nintendo music.
Nicktendo_
Banned
Did I mention that 3D World is also the GOAT OST?
That Big Band direction they went in was pure fire. Such an incredible soundtrack. As much as I love Galaxy’s orchestral tunes, this was something so much bolder and they pulled it off without even breaking a sweat.