Barnabot
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'cause some of them think they are not worthy of Sony's Playstation. So they think they need to give more to please the gods.
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How can anyone think the PS5 is costing anything less than 600 - 700 USD?
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SafeOrAlone
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That was a while ago. The market has changed and inflation has to to be considered. I'm thinking $500, but $600 doesn't seem as absurd as it did over ten years ago.
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If this is true then it will quickly become:
449 PS5
399 Xbox
Xbox needs to win on price and is in a better position to recover any losses.
The Alien
Banned
The price can be as high or low as Sony sets it.
We know what a console price range "should be".
We know the parts cost for the PS5.
The variable nobody but Sony knows is how much of a loss they are happy within...or how much profit they want to make.
For the record, me thinks:
$499 digital PS5
$599 disc PS5
We know what a console price range "should be".
We know the parts cost for the PS5.
The variable nobody but Sony knows is how much of a loss they are happy within...or how much profit they want to make.
For the record, me thinks:
$499 digital PS5
$599 disc PS5
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Trogdor1123
Gold Member
499 usd
Agnostic2020
Member
449 DE and 499
Barakov
Gold Member
namekuseijin
Banned
xbots and clueless pc fans new to the whole subsidy thing in console business
Vawn
Banned
You weren't even in the ballpark.
True, thanks to Nvidia from bringing people back to reality. LMAO 700 for PS5 ....
VincentMatts
Member
Im pretty sure the rumors were that the ps5 was more expensive to produce than the XSX was.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
nah. They will be more expensive. They cannot be on the same level as "casual" xbox (that's probably what they will aim for)
Dibils2k
Member
if only
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If Series X is $500 US (or $600 CDN), I don't see how PS5 can be $600-700 US ($750-900 CDN).
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
$550 and $450 for DE.
jigglet
Banned
Interesting prediction, never thought about that before. You could be right.
499 DE
599 complete edition
Flash memory itself is not that expensive, but because of speed they chose to use 8 chips. Not expensive x 8 is at least not cheap. Xbox can use less chips with higher density which is normally much cheaper.
also the console is really big, which also let me assume that it an expensive console.
if the disc box had double the SSD space I would have guessed 399 for the DE, but as they have the same amount it can't be cheap. And they can't release with a smaller ssd, this would just be a joke.
599 complete edition
Flash memory itself is not that expensive, but because of speed they chose to use 8 chips. Not expensive x 8 is at least not cheap. Xbox can use less chips with higher density which is normally much cheaper.
also the console is really big, which also let me assume that it an expensive console.
if the disc box had double the SSD space I would have guessed 399 for the DE, but as they have the same amount it can't be cheap. And they can't release with a smaller ssd, this would just be a joke.
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Cert.in.Death
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gamechanger87
Member
Agreed.
Not sure why people think otherwise. Look at the potential SSD costs for MS and think of how much these SSDs will drive the price. They don't want $599 and want to lead with "Starting at $449"
RoadHazard
Gold Member
If the XSX is $499, why couldn't the PS5 be?
Edit: Oh, this is old.
Edit: Oh, this is old.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Because despite the specs overall worse than Series X, the PS5 SSD is so awesome and costly like a high end PC SSD, it'll be like half the cost of PS5.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
You think Sony is paying off-the-shelf prices for SSDs?
Aguero9320
Member
$399 would be an amazing price for the digital edition. Can’t see how it’s possible, but if they do it then great!
BlackGauna
Member
600 is too much. Nobody, other than the hardcore gamerd maybe, will buy it at that price. Especially because people got used to the 400 price tag, or something around there. A price increase of 50% compared to the previous generation is unrealistic, more so in the current times, where money is is really tight for some people.
500 is my bet for the physical version. The SSD may be more expensive than the one in XSX but the CPU is clocked lower, so yield should be higher and CPU should be cheaper as a result.
GPU also is smaller than the XBox GPU and should be cheaper to produce.
Sony doesn't sell their consoles at a loss anymore, at least they did since Vita I think. So at max I think 550 for physical.
But they will never touch that magical 600 ever again, imo. Especially in this economic climate right now. They will rather sell at a loss, than be that expensive.
500 is my bet for the physical version. The SSD may be more expensive than the one in XSX but the CPU is clocked lower, so yield should be higher and CPU should be cheaper as a result.
GPU also is smaller than the XBox GPU and should be cheaper to produce.
Sony doesn't sell their consoles at a loss anymore, at least they did since Vita I think. So at max I think 550 for physical.
But they will never touch that magical 600 ever again, imo. Especially in this economic climate right now. They will rather sell at a loss, than be that expensive.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Definitely not.
Console makers pay low costs and sell consoles usually around breakeven. And the retailer does too.
Whereas every PC part sold at a store is going for double tiered profits (both store cut and manufacturer cut).
Have fun trying to convince the general gamer about this.
sainraja
Member
Sony had also delayed the PS3 once or twice which I am sure annoyed some people as well. I think price was a factor but the delays were a bigger factor or perhaps equally.
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420bits
Member
Well, Xbox series X is 499 and then you add some swedish tax, another tax on the SSD and another tax for MS using chemicals in production and you end up with a retailprice of 649,83 USD or, 5695 SEK.
If you live in the UK it will set you back about 580 USD.
So the answer to your question is, a lot of people in the EU will pay way more than 500 USD regardless of their choice, unless they go for the gimp SS-box, thats only gonna set you back like 350-400 or something.
With that said, I'm going to buy a ps5 on launchday and i don't care if its 449, or 699. Do I WANT to spend 700 on it? No, but regardless it will be worth it in terms of how much fun i will have with it and I can afford it.
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lukilladog
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I´d thank instead Jensen´s "Pascal friends" who refused to buy the first batch of overpriced RTX cards.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
It’s gotta be cheaper then the next gen Xbox as it’s less powerful
LittleBusters
Banned
I already called it:
PS5 - $449
PS5 Digital - $399
*mic drop* generation over
PS5 - $449
PS5 Digital - $399
*mic drop* generation over
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Wizz-Art
Member
Setting yourself up for disappointment or what?
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Craig of War
Banned
If PS5 is 600 than it will be a repeat of the PS3 launch.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It'll be $500.
PS3 was a different boat as BR costs were sky high as a new tech. I think the starting BOM costs for PS3 was $800-900 and Sony subsidized $200-300. I remember seeing Panasonic BR players starting at $1,000.
Back in 2006, used games were in full swing, no sub plans, no PS+. Making back those costs was getting people to buy controllers, sony branded extra cables and new discs. Might have taken some gamers a couple years to break even on.
Console makers know digital sales and microtrans are increasing and loss of revenue from used discs is dropping as people move to digital. Hell, I was a supporter of discs too, but haven't bought a disc since I think Witcher 3 with the bonus book.
They can make back any $50 or $100 subsidized costs fast.
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Texas Pride
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Because Sony isn't going to commit commercial suicide in the middle of a pandemic pricing it at 600-700 OP. Playstation as a brand was almost done in by the PS3 pricing among other things and they won't try it again.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I know Sony has momentum and confidence through the nose, but pricing it over the XSX will probably really hurt it’s sales. After the PS3 situation, why would they even want to venture into that dangerous territory again during a pandemic especially when your competition will most likely have most of the major games casuals want as well?
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phat_crazy
Member
So weird that so many people think the PS5 will be more than $499.
At the rumoured BOM 499 even looks a little high. Even if the BOM is significantly higher than that, there's still slack for it to be 499.
There's just no way Sony would design a console with a target price of $599. It would be incredibly risky. There's just no way they can have a $200 gap between the Series S and the cheaper PS5.
At the rumoured BOM 499 even looks a little high. Even if the BOM is significantly higher than that, there's still slack for it to be 499.
There's just no way Sony would design a console with a target price of $599. It would be incredibly risky. There's just no way they can have a $200 gap between the Series S and the cheaper PS5.
vdopey
Member
If Sony doesn't react to Microsoft pricing:
PS5 --> $500
PS5 Digital --> $400
If Sony react, but want to play safe:
ps5 --> $550
ps5 digital --> $350
recouping costs from the disc based version and selling the digital at a pretty big loss
If Sony react and want to destroy Microsoft (but they will be self-harming with this):
ps5 --> $500
ps5 digital --> $350
I personally think its option 1 above, it has the least impact to their bottom line its the most sensible approach and if sales of xss are much better than expected, they can adjust prices accordingly, by end of next year they will probably be able to buy the components for a much better price and reduce the manufacture costs and drop prices. The SSD tech will probably rapidly drop in price by end of next year, same with the gpu / cpu all of these things are just going to decrease in price and Sony will probably price reduce a lot more aggressively.
The Microsoft approach is really short sighted, its going to backfire on them bookmark this and come back to me in a year,
If xss sells well, I expect, by end of next year:
ps5 --> $400
ps5 digital --> $330
I think the xsx will be butchered in sales regardless, the xss will cannibalise sales.
PS5 --> $500
PS5 Digital --> $400
If Sony react, but want to play safe:
ps5 --> $550
ps5 digital --> $350
recouping costs from the disc based version and selling the digital at a pretty big loss
If Sony react and want to destroy Microsoft (but they will be self-harming with this):
ps5 --> $500
ps5 digital --> $350
I personally think its option 1 above, it has the least impact to their bottom line its the most sensible approach and if sales of xss are much better than expected, they can adjust prices accordingly, by end of next year they will probably be able to buy the components for a much better price and reduce the manufacture costs and drop prices. The SSD tech will probably rapidly drop in price by end of next year, same with the gpu / cpu all of these things are just going to decrease in price and Sony will probably price reduce a lot more aggressively.
The Microsoft approach is really short sighted, its going to backfire on them bookmark this and come back to me in a year,
If xss sells well, I expect, by end of next year:
ps5 --> $400
ps5 digital --> $330
I think the xsx will be butchered in sales regardless, the xss will cannibalise sales.
Apocryphon
Member
Nobody is paying $1000 ffs, it'll be $499 or thereabouts and the PS4 Pro will see a price cut. Consoles are expensive to make and the manufacturers often lose money on every unit sold for a few years. They make money on games which is why the software attachment rate becomes a talking point at the start of every new generation.
Maybe $599 but I'd like to hoep Sony learnt their lesson with the PS3.
Maybe $599 but I'd like to hoep Sony learnt their lesson with the PS3.
They would still likely win very easily, but it would be more competitive than what it likely will be