Saudumm
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By-mission
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Imagine being caught in a group of Discordia with so many famous people and still trying to pass some... Impartiality.
Maybe, and just maybe, some people forgot about the GitHub data leak a year earlier, or the PS5 (FUD) serious heating problems ...
But I will never forget that Alex Battaglia was up to his neck with this!
The most worrying is that this group comprised a series of people with a high reputation in the forums and beyond. Here is a list of some names:
Duke Blue Balls
DrYko
Colbert
code
Proven
Shepstal Ed
Doc H1X1
Klobrille
Lukastaves
Jeff Rickel
Dictator
Fairy Empire
Headache
Bcatwilly
Brand Sams
Zedox
Among others;
Source https://www.pcmanias.com/playstatio...ncerteza-e-duvida-alteracoes-aos-comentarios/
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Wraith Phantom
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They cant follow up on NX gamer & many others. If NX gamer & others didn't drop videos they would of done another fake neutral & biased video. Covid has brought a lot of new players to the analysis game. Many foreign players ,that don't even talk they just show the visual changes.
Tough times for them for DF. No direct content from xbox. Sony will not give them a look in because of constant slander. With so many youtube players coming into analysis space. Tough times for DF ahead. If only if they were honest from the jump & had integrity instead of taking shilling cheques.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
It. Begins.
PS5 pre-orders go live this week
Neo Blaster
Member
I strongly believe both consoles can easily handle native 4k60 without RT or extremely reduced, but as always devs will mainly go for a looker and ramp up graphic effects on 30fps. What everyone should be rejoicing is that we'll have a 60fps option on many games next gen, hooray!!Many people confused the higher the pixel, the higher the image quality. The truth is No. There are others metrics which affects image quality other than resolution. They just buy the highest resolution Tv and called it a day
I definitely think so, the reason why they might lock 30fps at native 4k is probably not because of ps5 can't handle, the cpu might has enough juice to hit 40 to 50 frames but not stable. So they lock at 30 to have smooth experience gameplay. When they use temporal injection technique, they might be able to hit 60fps with the same visual quality with optimization.
Killer Sakoman
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Can you give me whatever you're smoking?
hemo memo
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TheGreatWhiteShark
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I can give you a place in my ignore list, sure
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Honestly I just quietly laugh. That the Dealer group (mainly Dealer and Colt) spout such technical nonsense with none of the others questioning or correcting them (or the above group of posters you list here for that matter) means I just ain't going to be wasting my time.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think it is a pity that not everyone can afford the financial outlay involved in changing the entire machine in order to take advantage of its performance in games that never squeeze it before the 40xx comes out and the viral cycle begins. It is a good deal, but not for the pocket of the average player. Surely if I could afford to have a 3090 I would buy it without hesitation (and the other imprescindible necessary components), but if I could do that I could also buy both consoles and an iphone or at least one of them, surely PS5 for the exclusives that are never on PC.
Maybe he will getBo_Hazem a box of chocolates.
I don't really care about PC gaming myself, and I'm already pretty satisfied with PS5's offering. I can afford 3090Ti and even gift my 1 year old pc to someone and build a new one from the ground up if I'm a PC enthusiast. I try to avoid that generally as I've spent a fortune on car mods before without noticeable benefits.
PC's won't have great games anyway, I can't see something I can't play on PS5 and deserves my money, at least from a personal preference. It's not about money, personally, I've been a happy Sony consoler since 1997. I might consider PC gaming if there is no PS5 Pro and PCIe 5.0 is released (will build a new PC for video editing and rendering performance first and foremost, PC gaming as a side dish).
Many here could afford a good PC, but what's the point if it's full of bottlenecks and no specialized hardware and yet you pay a fortune to build one? I mean something around $2000-2500 at the very bottom just to get close to next gen consoles. PC motherboards are so fucked up that if you put 2x NVMe m.2 the second one draws 25% of main GPU power, and the SLI/Crossfire are barely a 25% over 1 single GPU.
Give me PS5 with a great 4K HDR TV (probably getting 65" Sony XH90 just for HDMI 2.1) and I'm happy with my gaming.
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THE:MILKMAN
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It. Begins.
PS5 pre-orders go live this week
Going to need receipts my friend as our god Tony Stark has informed us pre-orders open on the 9th.
HeisenbergFX4
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I think it is a pity that not everyone can afford the financial outlay involved in changing the entire machine in order to take advantage of its performance in games that never squeeze it before the 40xx comes out and the viral cycle begins. It is a good deal, but not for the pocket of the average player. Surely if I could afford to have a 3090 I would buy it without hesitation (and the other imprescindible necessary components), but if I could do that I could also buy both consoles and an iphone or at least one of them, surely PS5 for the exclusives that are never on PC.
Maybe I will get
3090 is day one for me and probably a whole new build to go with it.
I am a huge Sony fan and will probably end up buying the PS5 day one as well just to support Sony and some of my friends there.
DrDamn
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And you seem unable to accept what the Devs themselves are saying. DF and NXGamer pixel counts don't counter that, in fact the quote I included from DF corroborated my point. All you've provided in terms of actual evidence for your view is "yeah but I think it means this".
The way pixel counts are done is not some magic full screen analysis, they need to find specific conditions and use those to work out what the underlying render resolution was. That would still chuck up 1584p from an image that gets to 4K via temporal injection.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I don't really care about PC gaming myself, and I'm already pretty satisfied with PS5's offering. I can afford 3090Ti and even gift my 1 year old pc to someone and build a new one from the ground up if I'm a PC enthusiast. I try to avoid that generally as I've spent a fortune on car mods before without necessary benefits.
PC's won't have great games anyway, I can't see something I can't play on PS5 and deserves my money, at least from a personal preference. It's not about money, personally, I've been a happy Sony consoler since 1997. I might consider PC gaming if there is no PS5 Pro and PCIe 5.0 is released (will build a new PC for video editing and rendering performance first and foremost, PC gaming as a side dish).
Many here could afford a good PC, but what's the point if it's full of bottlenecks and no specialized hardware and yet you pay a fortune to build one? I mean something around $2000-2500 at the very bottom just to get close to next gen consoles. PC motherboards are so fucked up that if you put 2x NVMe m.2 the second one draws 25% of main GPU power, and the SLI/Crossfire are barely a 25% over 1 single GPU.
Give me PS5 with a great 4K HDR TV (probably getting 65" Sony XH90 just for HDMI 2.1) and I'm happy with my gaming.
Sadly the XH90 isnt a "great" TV as its HDR is sub par.
Its decent just wish it was a little brighter for that better pop with scenes.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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dude, I spent the better part of two hours replying to you, and I see that this time would be better spent talking to my mouse or joypad.
you are not able to understand. its ok. just move on.
vivftp
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A shame. I hope your hype builds up in the coming weeks
I can't wait for Sony to open the floodgates and drown us with information. Only about 2 months til launch, I imagine we'll get a pretty steady stream of info once they start.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well, going 8K by 2023-2024 with PS5 Pro anyway, hope that CLED (Crystal LED, rivals MicroLED) gets to consumer level. I'm not satisfied by the TV market in general, but XH90 is "great" in terms of quality:value ratio
I just saw XH80 (X800H) and it looked gorgeous to me, so anything more would be welcomed! Assuming Sony's a7s III and its lenses isn't killing my budget.
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BGs
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Imtjnotu
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if you go against him he will ignore you like the cry baby he is lol. just move on and stop replying to him
Fortuneelsewhere
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vivftp
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Got a X900E with my Pro to tide me over til next gen. I'm gonna keep a close eye on the sets that are shown at CES 2021 to pick my next set. As much as I wish for a micro led set, they're just too far off. Hoping Sony's new OLEDs will be amazing next year.
Imtjnotu
Member
get a c9 before they are all gone!
yewles1
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Doesn't like to be wrong, methinks .Yup DF has no desire to revisit R&C gameplay..
FunkMiller
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Ok, I’ve tried to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but this is clear favouritism. There’s FAR more footage available of R&C with significant upgrades and changes to June’s version. This should be meat and potatoes stuff to DF - and yet somehow it’s being over looked?
SHENANIGANS! I call SHENANIGANS!
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ethomaz
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He can’t hate enough so no video.Yup DF has no desire to revisit R&C gameplay..
saintjules
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
What a surprise !!!! Who would've thought .....
Is anyone here flabergasted by this news ?Or even remotely surprised?
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Great Hair
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If not mistaken, the uploader was not aware of this i think, but that Samsung 8K was a fake 8K with "built in cheats". But since Samsung created their own "alliance", their own "HDR10+", their own "standards".
Samsung made up an alliance (Hisense was part of it, then dropped out), gave themselves an award and ... rest is history. Same shit going on with HDR10+ (standard created by Samsung, based on what makes their TVs look great, instead of going with dolby vision). F#ck´em.
[IFA 2019] LG says Samsung’s 8K TV fails internationally agreed standards
BERLIN -- LG Electronics is adamant that Samsung’s 2019 8K TV does not meet the international standards for 8K resolution and that the company is effectively deceiving consumers.LG has made similar assertions before, but this is the first time it has officially called out Samsung. “We believe...
www.koreaherald.com
LG Electronics Claims Samsung Electronics' 8K TVs below Standard
The war over the 8K TV image quality is intensifying between South Korea’s two electronics giants Samsung Electronics Co. and LG Electronics Inc. LG Electronic
www.businesskorea.co.kr
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I read the 2 articles you posted, and they both state that Samsung 8K is real 8K (not fake, not cheated), but its just shit. Thats different
In the video he shows what LG is complaining about, the low contrast between pixels.
I currently don't care enough about that tbh...
Well they created their "own" standard (8K Association of which Samsung is a founder member), that should tell you who they really are or how they operate.
Why would they "create" their own alliance, standards ... ? maybe because their 2019 8k did not reach 25% (images) as indicated by ICDM "standard" (to which most TV manufacturers agreed upon, but only 12%. (blurrier image).
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BGs
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I have checked the translation to confirm that I have not made a mistake and I definitely believe that the translation is correct and that the part where I talk about "HYBRID" technology is perfectly clear. Same as the part where I say that everything doesn't have to be RT.
If due to my lack of English I have not properly understood your comment, please excuse me. Although at the moment I think that the one who has not understood me is you.
thebigmanjosh
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I’ll probably get boo’d out of this thread for saying this but I’m leaning towards subbing to services like GeForce now and hopefully Xcloud over upgrading my 1070 when the 30XX series drops.
I’ve been using GN to replay games like Control and Metro with RTX and it’s a surprisingly solid experience. The only reason I haven’t unplugged my HTPC entirely is Game Pass.
Nickolaidas
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HOW DARE HE WANT TO KNOW THE PRICE OF THE PRODUCT HE WANTS TO BUY!! ENTITLED, UNGRATEFUL BASTARD!!
BGs
Industry Professional
True. VR is another world. Resolution is much more important than on TV. But more important than resolution is pixel density. And more than this is the image refresh rate.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
My hype is dwindling as I blow through my PS4 backlog on my Pro lol
I was planning on saving games for that sweet SSD / backwars compat but got impatient on a couple.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
cube maps and screen space reflections are not "hybrid ray tracing technology" though. they are ...cube maps and ...ssrI have checked the translation to confirm that I have not made a mistake and I definitely believe that the translation is correct and that the part where I talk about "HYBRID" technology is perfectly clear. Same as the part where I say that everything doesn't have to be RT.
If due to my lack of English I have not properly understood your comment, please excuse me. Although at the moment I think that the one who has not understood me is you.
Fortuneelsewhere
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After that infamous damage control video from them regarding halo reveal I have no doubt they are in bed with MS. I’m sure they have some exclusive content locked with MS regarding series s right after the thing gets announced. And I bet we don’t have to wait to much long for it.
Mahavastu
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I read the 2 articles you posted, and they both state that Samsung 8K is real 8K (not fake, not cheated), but its just shit. Thats differentIf not mistaken, the uploader was not aware of this i think, but that Samsung 8K was a fake 8K with "built in cheats". But since Samsung created their own "alliance", their own "HDR10+", their own "standards".
[IFA 2019] LG says Samsung’s 8K TV fails internationally agreed standards
BERLIN -- LG Electronics is adamant that Samsung’s 2019 8K TV does not meet the international standards for 8K resolution and that the company is effectively deceiving consumers.LG has made similar assertions before, but this is the first time it has officially called out Samsung. “We believe...www.koreaherald.comLG Electronics Claims Samsung Electronics' 8K TVs below Standard
The war over the 8K TV image quality is intensifying between South Korea’s two electronics giants Samsung Electronics Co. and LG Electronics Inc. LG Electronic
In the video he shows what LG is complaining about, the low contrast between pixels.
I currently don't care enough about that tbh...
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jasondefaoite
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cube maps and screen space reflections are not "hybrid ray tracing technology" though. they are ...cube maps and ...ssr
Was it not "Hybrid Technology" (meaning a mix of whatever can be used to generate what looks like a reflection) and not Hybrid RT?
BGs
Industry Professional
And Monkey Island?I don't really care about PC gaming myself, and I'm already pretty satisfied with PS5's offering. I can afford 3090Ti and even gift my 1 year old pc to someone and build a new one from the ground up if I'm a PC enthusiast. I try to avoid that generally as I've spent a fortune on car mods before without noticeable benefits.
PC's won't have great games anyway, I can't see something I can't play on PS5 and deserves my money, at least from a personal preference. It's not about money, personally, I've been a happy Sony consoler since 1997. I might consider PC gaming if there is no PS5 Pro and PCIe 5.0 is released (will build a new PC for video editing and rendering performance first and foremost, PC gaming as a side dish).
Many here could afford a good PC, but what's the point if it's full of bottlenecks and no specialized hardware and yet you pay a fortune to build one? I mean something around $2000-2500 at the very bottom just to get close to next gen consoles. PC motherboards are so fucked up that if you put 2x NVMe m.2 the second one draws 25% of main GPU power, and the SLI/Crossfire are barely a 25% over 1 single GPU.
Give me PS5 with a great 4K HDR TV (probably getting 65" Sony XH90 just for HDMI 2.1) and I'm happy with my gaming.
Look at those graphics (you and me) ... that PS5 can't do it.
Sorry about the OT
skneogaf
Member
I'm surprised people are asking digital foundry for another ratchet and clank video as the initial look was fine and the new trailer shows us that they're still improving it. I'd be much more likely to watch the final game be analysed when it is launched in a few months.
If the do one and there is another video that shows even more improvements then will they have to make another video?
If the do one and there is another video that shows even more improvements then will they have to make another video?
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
This is probably another fanboy wishlist but dear God I wish it was true. Come on now Sony do something... anything... I’m so freaking tired of waiting.
vivftp
Member
I'm a Sony man through and through. Got 5 Bravias in my home (6, but gave one away) and I'll be damned if I get another brand!
Danlord
Member
The thing is, we're so starved of next-gen information, and here we have another very high quality video we can get of a game running on a next-gen console and whilst they have already covered it previously, there has been some improvements/refinements since the first unveiling and to fill the next-gen news void until we get more conferences ala State of Play, this is the most recent footage that can be dissected
BGs
Industry Professional
Hybrid. Nomenclatures differ by software, people, and companies. Although at the end of the day everyone says the same. Combine past technology with future technology to create hybrid results in the present. I think it is understood in my comment, if not, excuse me. There is currently no AAA game that is not hybrid. None. Another thing is that people want to believe it or not. And not necessarily because it can't be done, but because it isn't necessary.cube maps and screen space reflections are not "hybrid ray tracing technology" though. they are ...cube maps and ...ssr
This will possibly (surely) change starting in 2021 for the generalist developer (and later for the consumer, maybe 2022 or ending 2021). As an example you have the UE5 and motors owned by other companies. However with this I am not saying that it cannot be done currently, the option exists, but I do not know it is being used in its entirety. Or at least I am not aware of it in any 2020-21 project. But of course, who am I to know everything? Obviously I do not know everything and may still surprise "more" this year. And I repeat again, that a technology is not used is not because it cannot be used, but sometimes it is not necessary in its entirety (for now).
vivftp
Member
This is probably another fanboy wishlist but dear God I wish it was true. Come on now Sony do something... anything... I’m so freaking tired of waiting.
As nifty as this would be, all of it could easily have been guessed based on rumors, recent info and, well basically by reading either GAF or Era. Probably not too far off from the truth though. I want my new God of War trailer though!
MasterCornholio
Member
This is probably another fanboy wishlist but dear God I wish it was true. Come on now Sony do something... anything... I’m so freaking tired of waiting.
I can see some of that being true. Like the part about gameplay for Spiderman and Demon Souls will probably happen. Definitely an explanation of the UI and OS features as well.
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