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[KURDISTAN YPG]

Isnt this a good thing though if you are a big gamer?, Sony and Microsoft both doing their own thing, their own style. It gives a real reason for owning both consoles.

I think most console or hardcore console gamers dont have time for 2, usually you go where your local friends are going, now and days online mp has lot to do with console of choice, so even if they are doing their own thing, there isnt enough difference to buy 2 for most, Exclusives would be the only reason to buy both tbh.

 

[cHaOs667]

Lords of Everquest

A game from 2003... lol. AoE IV is in development and Halo Wars 2 is a current gen game. So his points are still valid.

And that's not a bad thing - even I enjoyed and loved games like Uncharted and TLOU I'm glad that MS is not producing the same style of games.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

I wish you’d take your own advice. Your posts are embarrassing.

Only the bold are remembered, that's probably why I have no idea who you are or why you're talking to me right now.

 

[Venom Snake]

Why is that? Who is this guy anyway, is he important?

 

[pasterpl]

What I am excited most about in xb games studios is the variety, most of sony big hitters look and play very similar, nothing wrong with that, they have found the right combination of graphics and gameplay and just keep delivering different games using same templates. With Xbox you have got shooters, some rts, with obsidian now part of xgs we can expect some solid aRPGs (New fable from playground), games like flight simulator, lots of smaller, passion projects from likes of rare or project Mara. In addition, due to raw power Xbox sex should be the best platform to play 3rd party games. Only people worried about ms and xbsex seems to be Sony fans that will probably never own Xbox and wish ms to fail.

 

[TBiddy]

Only the bold are remembered, that's probably why I have no idea who you are or why you're talking to me right now.

You're not missing out on much, to be honest.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Guy tweets something that is obvious, 6 pages of war about it.

 

[Stooky]

Animal Crossing sold 22 million units (no price drops) on a device with 63 million units sold worldwide...in 3 months.

Sony's exclusives are highly overrated in terms of market impact. They're missing the boat in terms of true mass appeal. Sony would be a fool to stick to games with such a limited ceiling.

It would be interesting to compare the budgets of Animal Crossing with The Last of Us II.

I think time has proven that this literally only works for Nintendo. I played Animal crossing for 15mins then got the urge to blow something up and shoot things, in a virtually world of course. If sales are all that really matter, then everybody just make cell phone games. The big 3 should stay doing what they do best. I think Sony and Nintendo have their lane and both companies have hit their stride. Costumers know exactly what experince they are going to get from them. Microsoft isn't there yet, they need alot more games to figure out that out. Something other than Gears Halo and Forza.

 

[KRYPT83]

You have to look at it this way Sony has been making movie's forever, so when they bought game studio's and curated that talent they treated them like movie studio's. That's my honest opinion why I think Sony's 1st party games always have that single player cinematic vibe. If anybody is capable of making a game out of the xbox studio's and it be comparable it's obviously the Initiative and 343i. I buy a playstation for the single player exclusives everything else I play on the box. The gamer this day and age should be thankful we have the game's we have and the infrastructure none of you console warrior's would of lasted in the early day's without internet and social media.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

It's impossible for MS to match Playstation exclusive quality next gen seeing the GAAS direction they've gone in. Biggest issue for me is the no-exclusive policy, you can play these types of games on a low end PC or XB1 for that matter.

 

[Hudo]

SOE Everquest

Glorious times. Sad that Sony decided to sell SOE. Nowadays SOE (aka Daybreak) are a shadow of their former self...

 

[Zoro7]

I’m sure you’re the tool bag who said Xbox live was free and called everyone else an idiot? And did the same with the series S? That’s definitely you right?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Why is that? Who is this guy anyway, is he important?

He's such a MS fanboy he must be a shill. I think he's trying to dampen expectations so there is not huge disappointment at the next MS games unveil coming up.

 

[PlayVerso]

Microsoft cannot offer games as ambitious as God of War or The Last Of Us 2 and give them away in Game Pass at launch, plus Sony can release 2 or 3 every year as we have seen, it is not sustainable at the moment.

 

[Thirty7ven]

It’s obvious by now MS is focusing on AA so games and AAA gaas games.

 

[Three]

Sony will never produce AAA FPS, RPGs, arcade racers and 2D Metroidvania games. In fact, it seems all Sony can do is 3rd person cinematic games. Not much diversity. If you want diversity, come to Xbox.

Bloodborne, Nioh 1-2, HZD, not to mention Persona 5, past Yakuza games, FFVIIR are better than any RPG MS have put out.

Of course you are saying it because of avowed and Fable which wouldn't be surprising. Xbox fans love to play the waiting game and miss how crap the present is.

 

[CrysisFreak]

Xbox should get some inspiration from PlayStation and the other way around too. Because Battlefield has failed us and Sony could easily create a fix for that imho.
And I think Fable will probably be a bit like Horizon in terms of an open-world playthrough except with Co-Op or something.

 

[Tulipanzo]

The most puzzling thing to me is how they can launch a console without anything for the next 2 years.
I genuinely expected a bunch of cross-gen titles, while compromised, would be launching, but they just have nothing.

 

[TBiddy]

I'm pleased they are going in a different direction than Sony. Besides, there'll be lots of AAA games from Microsoft that'll run circles around Sonys offerings.

 

[HeresJohnny]

Microsoft has been good with first party stuff in the past, but this generation has been pretty unkind to them. Really, it was self inflicted because they’ve never really recovered from what happened under Mattrick with Kinect. Hopefully they can turn the corner this generation, but I’m far from confident they will. They’re basically putting their money on a different sacred cow this time (subscription services) instead of a flail device and hoping for a different outcome.

 

[IShowUBasics]

Microsoft cannot offer games as ambitious as God of War or The Last Of Us 2 and give them away in Game Pass at launch, plus Sony can release 2 or 3 every year as we have seen, it is not sustainable at the moment.

Exactly. Even if they choose to make a high budget game they will still get the same amount of money from game pass. Thats why they will just make 3 smaller games instead and put them on gamepass. 3 new games just sounds better than 1. They would have to exclude it from gamepass for the first few months to make it worth for them.

 

[anothertech]

Agree with Jez. Don't expect anything of that caliber on Xbox.

Were still waiting for the Xbones Halo, Forza, or Gears moment. We waited an entire generation.

They may be done with their glory days.

 

[GHG]

So basically don't expect big blockbuster single player only titles from Xbox?



I didn't anyway to be honest due to how they typically manage their studios and the fact that they are focused on going the GAAS route with most titles now.

 

[Sony]

This is good, because Sony and Microsoft are diverging in services and type of games. That way people can choose more specifically what they want and therefor which console to choose.

 

[Tomeru]

So many upset people in one place. Shame...

 

[Spukc]

Way to scrub the context.

Member Series S

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Microsoft cannot offer games as ambitious as God of War or The Last Of Us 2 and give them away in Game Pass at launch, plus Sony can release 2 or 3 every year as we have seen, it is not sustainable at the moment.

Well if MS wants GamePass to succeed they really do need some "GamePass Original" content that makes people talk.


Just like Netflix they can't survive on 3rd party.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Aren't they, and their studios, also talking about letting the studios make whatever their creative talent wants?

You shouldn’t take these things at face value. It can mean anything. For example it can mean that once the project is green lit that MS will back the project until it’s ready to come out. It can mean that when it comes to AA games that they will let more off beat ideals come through. Etc

If everyone was making third person cinematic games with a focus on mo capped cutscenes, I'd stop playing games entirely. While it's nice to have a 'God of War' once a generation, I'm thankful that games like Halo, Sea of Thieves, Killer Instinct, Grounded, Ori, etc., exist too. Call me old fashioned, but I appreciate a breadth of experiences, and I'm glad Microsoft are doing their own thing. I can only take some many Sony-style "movie games" before I have to tap out, and need throw on Halo MP or play Supreme Commander to remember why I game in the first place.

This is complete bunk. The point of first party is to make games third parties aren’t so willing to make. None of these consoles have a lack of first person MP shooter, so using Halo as some sort of “breath of fresh air” is hilarious. Hell the creators of Halo have Destiny out there and now 343i is following on their path.

Fighting games? Killer Instinct doesn’t even come close to being a reference in the genre and one of the biggest is Street Fighter V which you can't get on Xbox.

Here's a couple of games that don't fit the bs "movie" criteria at all: Knack, Resogun, DriveClub, LBP3, MLB, BloodBorne (GOTG candidate), Helldivers, Teraway, Ratchet and Clank, The Last guardian, Alienation, The Tomorrow Children, Dreams, Shadow of Colossus R (etc)

If you want to praise Xbox offerings, I say more power to you. But since you had to trash the other guy with some good old bs, I just had to call it.

 

[PlayVerso]

Well if MS wants GamePass to succeed they really do need some "GamePass Original" content that makes people talk.


Just like Netflix they can't survive on 3rd party.

Yes, but Netflix has more than 150 million users, GamePass currently 10 million, to be able to offer content like Netflix, GamePass will have to grow much more.

 

[Yoshi]

I could very well write the following:

I think playstation needs to improve on next gen exclusive games. I am a playstation fan but with the games released on the wii u like pikmin 3, super mario 3d world, donkey kong country tropicalfreeze, new super mario bros u, mario kart 8. playstation didn't even have anything close to them this current gen! #VastImprovementNeeded

and expect the following answer from a Sony insider:

I don't think you'll ever get these kinds of games from PlayStation sadly. You may want to grab a Nintendo system instead to get these.

And it would be a totally fair answer. Note that the answer does not reference quality, but type of games.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

You shouldn’t take these things at face value. It can mean anything. For example it can mean that once the project is green lit that MS will back the project until it’s ready to come out. It can mean that when it comes to AA games that they will let more off beat ideals come through. Etc

This is complete bunk. The point of first party is to make games third parties aren’t so willing to make. None of these consoles have a lack of first person MP shooter, so using Halo as some sort of “breath of fresh air” is hilarious. Hell the creators of Halo have Destiny out there and now 343i is following on their path.

Fighting games? Killer Instinct doesn’t even come close to being a reference in the genre and one of the biggest is Street Fighter V which you can't get on Xbox.

Here's a couple of games that don't fit the bs "movie" criteria at all: Knack, Resogun, DriveClub, LBP3, MLB, BloodBorne (GOTG candidate), Helldivers, Teraway, Ratchet and Clank, The Last guardian, Alienation, The Tomorrow Children, Dreams, Shadow of Colossus R (etc)

If you want to praise Xbox offerings, I say more power to you. But since you had to trash the other guy with some good old bs, I just had to call it.

The idea that MS offers 'gameplay' and Sony only 'cinematic experiences'

Yeah, the point of Sony's dominance this gen is everyone is playing these AA and GAAS titles on their PS4, made by third parties or Sony themselves.

PS5 will be:

1. Marquee AAA SP titles
2. AA experiences from Jap. devs and other partnerships
3. AA and AAA GAAS titles from 3rd parties

It's a potent mix and so far it looks like Series X will only offer number 3, made by themselves or 3rd parties, which can all be played on your Xbox One or PC, I might add.

 

[Mr.ODST]

So many upset people in one place. Shame...

Spoken like a true console warrior

 

[Tomeru]

Spoken like a true console warrior

Just put me on ignore if you cant handle sarcasm. Do it.

 

[plip.plop]

Obsidian and Ninja Theory have already punched holes in that B.S. I will wait to see what the initiative delivers. If they create an awesome single-player experience while making a multiplayer experience that moves consoles Xbox will move in that direction. Step up Xbox game studios, you know what you are capable of.

 

[TBiddy]

It's a potent mix and so far it looks like Series X will only offer number 3, made by themselves or 3rd parties, which can all be played on your Xbox One or PC, I might add.

Not true, and you know that.

 

[Klayzer]

What about games like Ratchet and Clank, Concrete Genie, Dreams, Killzone, Nex Machina, etc

Don't count obviously.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Not true, and you know that.

Huh? I'm saying all games on Series X are cross released on PC and XB1, as is their policy.

 

[TBiddy]

Huh? I'm saying all games on Series X are cross released on PC and XB1, as is their policy.

That is not their policy. For a limited time period a few 1st party games will also be on XB1. That is their policy. There's no mandate for 3rd parties at all or 1st parties outside the first year or two. You know that. Stop spreading FUD.

you are quickly becoming one of the worst fanboys on this forum.

Becoming?

 

[oldergamer]

At this point, you don't even need your brain, not even your guts, to know that. Sony as a company circulates around entertainment, joy, and that's what you get with their products.

You are quickly becoming one of the worst fanboys on this forum. circling entertainment and joy?? are you getting paid by sony?

Sony makes single player story driven games, they don't do multiplayer well. Ms makes simpler story driven games with a deep multiplayer component. That is the different Jez was talking about.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

To be fair, the world doesn't need more 3rd person punchy shooty "cinematic" games.

 

[Greeno]

Xbox should get some inspiration from PlayStation and the other way around too. Because Battlefield has failed us and Sony could easily create a fix for that imho.
And I think Fable will probably be a bit like Horizon in terms of an open-world playthrough except with Co-Op or something.

I hope Fable is Fable rather than an answer to Horizon. Fable is all about choices and social interactions. Horizon is more inline with The Witcher kind of gameplay. Both are different.

 

[GHG]

I prefer action games such as God of War with superb gameplay myself. Each to their own.

People don't know if they haven't played it unfortunately.

I don't know how you can call yourself a fan of gaming but yet rob yourself of experiencing or trying out some of the best stuff the medium has to offer.

But each to their own.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Just put me on ignore if you cant handle sarcasm. Do it.

Complaining like a true console warrior

 

[MrFunSocks]

Agree with Jez. Don't expect anything of that caliber on Xbox.

Were still waiting for the Xbones Halo, Forza, or Gears moment. We waited an entire generation.

They may be done with their glory days.

Except that’s not what Jez said. He wasn’t talking about “caliber” or quality, just the style of game.

Yes, but Netflix has more than 150 million users, GamePass currently 10 million, to be able to offer content like Netflix, GamePass will have to grow much more.

Netflix isn’t the same as they only make money through subscription fees. That’s not what will make game pass profitable.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

That is not their policy. For a limited time period a few 1st party games will also be on XB1. That is their policy. There's no mandate for 3rd parties at all or 1st parties outside the first year or two. You know that. Stop spreading FUD.



Becoming?

It's not FUD. Name me games that will only be released on Series X, no PC version, no XB1 version.

You seem confused by their own policy. After XB1 cross compatibility is over in 2022, PC will still see all their first party games.

Third parties will be on PC, PS5, Switch, this is not a revelatio is it?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

You are quickly becoming one of the worst fanboys on this forum. circling entertainment and joy?? are you getting paid by sony?

Sony makes single player story driven games, they don't do multiplayer well. Ms makes simpler story driven games with a deep multiplayer component. That is the different Jez was talking about.

Yeah and those from Sony are the best, and the MP games from xbox you know where they sit in the MP field. If you're a MP guy, 3rd party got you covered, but singleplayer you won't find something better than PS 1st and 3rd part exclusives.

 

[Hobbygaming]

Don't count obviously.

Lol they never do

 

[Calverz]

Yeah and those from Sony are the best, and the MP games from xbox you know where they sit in the MP field. If you're a MP guy, 3rd party got you covered, but singleplayer you won't find something better than PS 1st and 3rd part exclusives.

I honestly think this guy takes the piss. You cant take him seriously.
I think next gen you will slowly see sony go the nintendo route where they will rely heavily on exclusive content to sell hardware. So you buy a ps5 for the ezclusive single player stuff and for everything else, you go with the xbox since it will deliver better MP experiences and 3rd party stuff will look a lot better. And with xcloud and gamepass, it opens up these experiences to a lot more people with limited budgets. The ps5 will become a luxury item. Nothing wrong with this but its part of the xbox plan.

 

[Hobbygaming]

I honestly think this guy takes the piss. You cant take him seriously.
I think next gen you will slowly see sony go the nintendo route where they will rely heavily on exclusive content to sell hardware. So you buy a ps5 for the ezclusive single player stuff and for everything else, you go with the xbox since it will deliver better MP experiences and 3rd party stuff will look a lot better. And with xcloud and gamepass, it opens up these experiences to a lot more people with limited budgets. The ps5 will become a luxury item. Nothing wrong with this but its part of the xbox plan.

PlayStation has too much mindshare to become a luxury item. All they have to do is do what they've been doing

Bring the games

 

[Calverz]

PlayStation has too much mindshare to become a luxury item. All they have to do is do what they've been doing

Bring the games

But the market is going to change with the introduction of cheaper barrier to entry and instant cloud gaming. Also the xbox ecosystem is spreading into the pc gaming space too. Its no wonder sony have selected microsoft for their azure servers. Even they see this coming. It also explains why they have allegedly sought to seek 3rd party exclusives.