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Marvels Avengers: Spiderman to be Exclusive to the Playstation version [Confirmed]

To me, the fact that it's a free update and not paid bonus DLC, whether exclusive or not, suggests he was supposed to be at some point. Unfortunately we'll never know when this deal was actually struck. You can almost guarantee it wasn't recent, though.

They announced ages ago that all DLC characters will be free. This is the third one announced. (Ant-Man and Hawkeye being the other 2).

To be honest I don't think this will end up being much different to when they had Joker as an exclusive playable character in the Arkham games.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Let's see if people feel this way if/when Microsoft buys WB and locks down all of DC, Mortal combat, Lord of the Rings etc.

This definitely will not happen. WB aren’t about to lose millions of PlayStation games sales.

Don’t forget: Microsoft wouldn’t be buying Batman... they’ll be buying the rights to make games featuring him. And WB would stipulate multi platform because money.
 
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kretos

Banned
Third party pubs in bed with Sony right now

Avengers Spiderman
FF16
Silent Hill
Death loop and Ghostwire

Whatever else they have, the outrage will be glorious

Imagine if they got GTA 6 too

disaster-girl.jpg
 

SCB3

Member
This definitely will not happen. WB aren’t about to lose millions of PlayStation games sales.

Don’t forget: Microsoft wouldn’t be buying Batman... they’ll be buying the rights to make games featuring him. And WB would stipulate multi platform because money.


So like Sony with Spiderman
 

FunkMiller

Member
So like Sony with Spiderman

Sadly not. The story of Spider-man’s rights is a long and sorry one that I’m not going to go into now. Suffice to say Marvel didn’t do a good job of it. Sony have far more power over the character than they should have. It’s a stupid confusing mess, where neither has decent control.

Whereas Batman is locked down hard by Warner Bros, as are all DC characters.
 
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AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
They announced ages ago that all DLC characters will be free. This is the third one announced. (Ant-Man and Hawkeye being the other 2).

To be honest I don't think this will end up being much different to when they had Joker as an exclusive playable character in the Arkham games.

Fair enough, though I'd argue that they're not nearly as integral to Avengers as Spidey. It just stinks to me, I'm not massively surprised, I just think it's an awful practice to announce a multiplatform game in 2017 (or whenever they actually confirmed multi, even if it was E3 2019) and then a month before release announce that a massive part of that franchise, one hugely enjoyed by children, is only gonna be seen by part of the playerbase. As much as people here like to draw the comparison, it just isn't the same as a company announcing one day one that "this game exists and is coming to this platform only".
 

Codes 208

Member
I was under the impression that activision still held the rights to spiderman games while Sony simply made a deal with them to make spiderman PS4.

now that I know, I can understand why. It’s still bullshit, but I get it.
 

CrysisFreak

Banned
First of all: the salt is unreal holy smokes.

Furthermore: whatever Sony funded the good Spiderman game and the previous ones were utter TRASH. So I don't really know why people are that mad.
The char is associated with the company anyway, remember that PS3 logo version 1.
 

Resenge

Member
Not such what that garbage is, but the VP of Enhance Studios said himself it was a licensing issue from The Tetris Company, NOT Microsoft.

Stop spreading FUD.
Your argument would be a lot stronger if you could produce proof of this instead of getting angry. Tetris is going remote play on Xcloud right?
 
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TriSuit666

Banned
Ofcourse they said that.

Actually, the confirmation came by way of ResetEra.

I can see how the timing would make it seem like the two things are related, but FWIW, they aren't. Disabling Remote Play is a contractural / legal matter separate from anything between Enhance and Microsoft. (Thanks for the interest in the game!)

I KNOW!
 
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iconmaster

Banned
Nope. Just movies. Marvel has his game rights, and let’s Sony use him ostensibly as a part of negotiations for him to appear in marvel movies

If you're right, then this deal is really a result of Sony saying to Marvel, "Sure would be a shame if the MCU had to get along without Spider-Man..."
 

Zoro7

Banned
You have to be fucking kidding me thinking MS paid money so remote play would be removed from a fucking Tetris game lol
Oh here come the Xforce.....always the same people rushing to defend.

I mean is this not the same company who thought that Halo trailer was worth hyping? I wouldn't put anything past them.
 

TriSuit666

Banned
Oh here come the Xforce.....always the same people rushing to defend.

I mean is this not the same company who thought that Halo trailer was worth hyping? I wouldn't put anything past them.

Did the quote not convince you? Do you want the guy to come round to your house and tell you himself?
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Oh here come the Xforce.....always the same people rushing to defend.

I mean is this not the same company who thought that Halo trailer was worth hyping? I wouldn't put anything past them.
Yes I must be a fanboy for thinking it's dumb that MS would give 2 shits about Tetris Effect remote play lol
 

Resenge

Member
Or you could so as I did and do a little bit of research and find out yourself?
I actually was going to post the proof for you since you obviously could not. I spent a couple of mins googling it and couldn't find proof of your claim, even so if it was "contractually" does that not mean MS could have contractually setup Xcloud as the only streaming service for Tetris?

Actually, the confirmation came by way of ResetEra.
So no proof? got ya.
 
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TriSuit666

Banned
I actually was going to post the proof for you since you obviously could not. I spent a couple of mins googling it and couldn't find proof of your claim, even so if it was "contractually" does that not mean MS could have contractually setup Xcloud as the only streaming service for Tetris?

As I said earlier numbnuts, it’s off a ResetEra thread where the VP of Marketing for Enhance posts the reason.

And I quoted what he said.

I can see how the timing would make it seem like the two things are related, but FWIW, they aren't. Disabling Remote Play is a contractural / legal matter separate from anything between Enhance and Microsoft. (Thanks for the interest in the game!)
 
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Fair enough, though I'd argue that they're not nearly as integral to Avengers as Spidey. It just stinks to me, I'm not massively surprised, I just think it's an awful practice to announce a multiplatform game in 2017 (or whenever they actually confirmed multi, even if it was E3 2019) and then a month before release announce that a massive part of that franchise, one hugely enjoyed by children, is only gonna be seen by part of the playerbase. As much as people here like to draw the comparison, it just isn't the same as a company announcing one day one that "this game exists and is coming to this platform only".

Yeah there is a risk with this sort of thing. I remember back when Arkham City came out and they'd been advertising Cat Woman as a playable character for months. But then at the last moment slipped in the fine print that she was only available to people who bought the game first hand. That really annoyed me.

Though in this case they've not used Spider-Man in any of the advertising material. And the only word of him being in the game has come alongside the exclusivity announcement. So I think the risk of someone spontaneously picking the game up on Xbox/PC assuming they'll get to play as Spider-Man should be pretty negligible. I could be wrong though.
 

Resenge

Member
As I said earlier numbnuts, it’s off a ResetEra thread where the VP of Marketing for Enhance posts the reason.

And I quoted what he said. But once again for the hard of stupid:
And you beleive that they took it off Remote play but allow it on Xcloud out of the goodness of their hearts for the love of MS? Really? What do you think "contractually" entails?
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Did they not pay for some exclusive features though?
XFOOOOORCE ASSEMBLE.
Microsoft sometimes pays for all kinds of exclusivity... what does that have to do with the idea it's fucking dumb to think they paid for remote play to be removed from some Tetris game?
 

Resenge

Member
You believe what you like, mate, but don’t presume to assume what I think. Cool?
Not such what that garbage is, but the VP of Enhance Studios said himself it was a licensing issue from The Tetris Company, NOT Microsoft.

Stop spreading FUD.
So we are back to this, he was speaking what he believes happened and you have no right to tell him what to he thinks. Cool?
 
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DeaDPo0L84

Member
Let's see if people feel this way if/when Microsoft buys WB and locks down all of DC, Mortal combat, Lord of the Rings etc.

This won't happen cause those companies like money, and most of said money is earned off of the Playstation playerbase.
 

TriSuit666

Banned
And you beleive that they took it off Remote play but allow it on Xcloud out of the goodness of their hearts for the love of MS? Really? What do you think "contractually" entails?

Friendo, if you’re going to do this, the ball is still in your court to prove with slides, a spreadsheet and possibly a 1500-2000 word essay what commercial sense it would make for Microsoft to do this.

I’d like it turned in by the morning for extra credit.
 

Desaccorde

Member
Wow, it's baffling to see people are praising such behavior actually. I literally own tons of Sony products and kind of a fanboy on hardware part and always had a Playstation to support my PC gaming; however, this is just unacceptable and should be criticized by every gamer on every platform. It's disgusting and only thing they will get by dividing the player base is a big fat negative revenue due to refunds and cancellations. It's also so interesting to announce such thing before the release of the game, very poor marketing decision.
 

Resenge

Member
Friendo, if you’re going to do this, the ball is still in your court to prove with slides, a spreadsheet and possibly a 1500-2000 word essay what commercial sense it would make for Microsoft to do this.

I’d like it turned in by the morning for extra credit.
I don't have to prove anything, I wasn't stating a fact just an opinion. The timing of this remote play thing is sketchy, very much a big coincidence.
 
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BRZBlue

Member
Let's see if people feel this way if/when Microsoft buys WB and locks down all of DC, Mortal combat, Lord of the Rings etc.

... you know that if Microsoft buys WB Games, they don't actually get the rights to the movie properties right?

WB Games would have to fulfill any contract obligations from before the buyout, so anything in development that was released would have to go as per usual, but after that, Warner (the BIG company, not the little games subsidiary) would be free to shop around their properties to the highest bidder. The only reason WB Games was making games for all the WB properties was BECAUSE they were in-house.

They're basically selling the studio, the rights to Mortal Kombat and a few videogame IP's, but MS doesn't get exclusive rights to Harry Potter or DC Comics characters, because they're movie rights. Even then WB Games never had exclusive rights to those characters as they were in lots of other non WB-developed games.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Wow, it's baffling to see people are praising such behavior actually. I literally own tons of Sony products and kind of a fanboy on hardware part and always had a Playstation to support my PC gaming; however, this is just unacceptable and should be criticized by every gamer on every platform. It's disgusting and only thing they will get by dividing the player base is a big fat negative revenue due to refunds and cancellations. It's also so interesting to announce such thing before the release of the game, very poor marketing decision.

I didn't see a lot of people praising this, but several people are just accepting for what it is - a terrible business practice that they hated for several years but that seems to be profitable enough to still be around.

MS is also terrible with practices like several studio acquisitions and timed exclusives (for example the whole Yakuza 7 deal is just terrible, unacceptable). But it is what it is: a business practice that nearly all publishers use.

To be honest: I don't see a whole lot of cancellations. A lot of Spidey fans have a PS4 at home are happy to get him exclusive in this game - the number of hardcore gamers who are furious enough to cancel their preorder or don't buy the game because of this deal isn't that high.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Your argument would be a lot stronger if you could produce proof of this instead of getting angry. Tetris is going remote play on Xcloud right?
The game isn't even out yet on Xbox.. and there's no indication it's coming to xCloud...

Look, MS pays for exclusivity for things sometimes.. and arbitrary money-hatted exclusivity sucks IMO no matter who does it.

But there's zero indication MS ever paid any money to have remote play removed from a Tetris game lol
 
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