Psykodad
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It's MS final attempt at consoles. The vibe is there.
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Dev states that their game will have lower fps on PS5 than on XSX. Blames Sony (...then Unity, then deletes original Tweet)
Dodkrake
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I sincerely hope they do sell well and that we can continue to have a decent competitor to sony
GreyHand23
Member
Sony is not giving a ps5 dev kit to a one man studio with questionable history of work product at best. This is just proof that fanboys will believe anything they see on Twitter no matter how ridiculous it is as long as it fits their narrative.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
It definitely will play multiplatform games worse. But not 60fps worse. Which is what this goofball is implying.
Jon Neu
Banned
But dude, Sony fanboys are literally insulting a PS5 designer while giving death threats to the little children of the developer who leaked the PS5 designer statements.
They have beaten all the Olympics records by miles, they just got disqualified for substance abuse.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Kaz said in an interview man, i am not making it up. He said his team has plans beyond just offering 60fps option
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"I’m more interested in the advancements we can make in terms of the time resolution. In terms of frames per second, rather than staying at 60 fps, I’m more interested in raising it to 120 fps or even 240 fps. I think that’s what’s going to be changing the experience from here on forward" - Kazunori Yamauchi San to GT Planet
Source: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/18/gran-tursimo-7-ps5-will-240-fps-not-8k-12260805/
Thirty7ven
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I didn’t know that. That’s crazy.
He just raised it Neu. Xbox fanboys are back in the game.
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Vroadstar
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kuncol02
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With lower CPU load PS5 will underclock CPU and make GPU run little bit faster, so offloading load from CPU can have effect on GPU bottlenecked jobs.
I have no idea how he has so much trouble, because that game looks like some PS3 indie. From my experience Unity is really bad engine, like I never saw any unity game which run 100% fine.
pawel86ck
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Of course he is trolling now PS5 die-hard fans but people should be really no surprised his game cant run at 120fps. Orphan is running 4K 60fps on XOX and PS5 GPU is not 2x times faster compared to supercharged 6TF Polaris (xbox one x GPU wasnt just simple RX580).
Mobilemofo
Member
I want xbox to be successful. Outside of that, I couldn't care less about some guys game getting 120fps..
Fuckin ridiculous..
Fuckin ridiculous..
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
If you put the name of the game in the thread title .. believe me no one will give a shit but when you start it with this “ Dev “ oh boy
eastwood333
Banned
A lot of butthurt in this thread with some snarky comments.
lepermessiah
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Why would you want 120 fps for this garbage 
WelshBluebird
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Am I the only person who doesn't think 120 fps is going to be a deal for 99% of people?
Most people don't even have a 4k TV yet, let alone one that could do 120 hz. And even right now, most sets sold are just 60 hz.
Most people don't even have a 4k TV yet, let alone one that could do 120 hz. And even right now, most sets sold are just 60 hz.
FranXico
Member
Watch Greennberg like this tweet as well to further encourage extreme fanboyism.
My TV does 2k @ 120hz, It would be great to play a game like Rocket League using that.
FranXico
Member
He's using Unity, which does not even have complete support for PS5 yet.
Yeah exactly. So they're just flaming fanboy garbage.
Been doing it for awhile it looks like.
WelshBluebird
Member
Sure, some people's will. And an even smaller number will do 4k at 120hz. But even for those that do have an alternative mode, if it isn't the default option, it often won't get used. You have to realise we are talking about a small fraction of the eventual userbase of these machines who will see any game run at 120 fps. For most people it won't matter at all (though their purchase may well be decided by the dick swinging they see online, even if they never actually see the benefit of it!).
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Deleted member 775630
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Is that surprising? XSX is the more powerful system so framerate will be higher
Redefine07
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Yea right , we rly don't need that game can stay at 0fps I won't play it none should play that shitfest , get Donkey Kong on SNES looks much better and you will have fun with it.
Psykodad
Banned
Meanwhile, Spencer is trying to move away from fanboys and console-warring.
MS PR at it's finest.
SleepDoctor
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This thread really got some legs on it lol. He's the equivalent of a Sony fanboy but in indie dev form. The outrage over this is great.
But not surprising give there was even death threats towards an engineer of their own console.
But not surprising give there was even death threats towards an engineer of their own console.
Cato
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That is a very good question.
I mean, I am certain a PS3 has enough horsepower to drive this in 120 fps.
Maybe the issue is not how much CPU the ps5 will have.
Vroadstar
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Psykodad
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There are two tweets in here where he talks about how it's an issue with Unity, not PS5.
Cato
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I think that is BS too.
I am certain that Unity can run a game that is "basically a static 2d background with a handful of 2d sprites on it" at 1024 FPS even on my laptop with integrated intel graphics.
His "game" is basically a screensaver with a small fish swimming around.
If the issue is not, PS5 power, or Unity, where could the issue be?
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hemo memo
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Or maybe. MAYBE and I know how insane this idea is. But maybe Microsoft have the more powerful hardware and that’s why the dev could push more. Insane I know.
Here is another insane idea. You could enjoy multi-platform games and exclusives even on a weaker hardware. Could you imagine that?
Thirty7ven
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This made sense in your head? yikes
eastwood333
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XSX has the better gpu,cpu,bandwidth.... but the gap is no where near the point to where you're going to get 120fps vs 60fps unless MS has updated the specs.
The dev did mention that its an issue with getting unity workind on the PS5 dev kits.
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SleepDoctor
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Tulipanzo
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See, that would be fine and all, but have you seen the game?
For those unaware:
Point is, I feel that maybe the person making a worse looking Ecco the dolphin might not have much insight into the potential of next-gen consoles.
EDIT: This is somehow updated gameplay from yesterday, why does it still look so bad??
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Psykodad
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I dunno. Purely going by his own words, since he first posted a bait tweet, only to then post 2 more tweets stating it's due to Unity not having the proper features to make full use of the PS5 architecture. Which makes it a Unity-related issue by his own statements.
So I assume that PS5 architecture is a bit different than your typical architecture.
Or it's all FUD.
Or Mark Cerny made a mess of a system, because he's incompetent.
I guess you can pick any of the reasons.
pawel86ck
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Game is capped at 60fps on PS5, but it doesn't mean unlocked framerate would be at 61fps. Most likely it's around 100fps, but not high enough to sustain 120fps.
eastwood333
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I hear you. But looking at the game(looks like a nice,cute little indie title)there should be no issue getting it to reach 120fps locked. But then again, he is only one person working on multiple platforms.
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Thirty7ven
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That you can't even acknowledge the guy being a Xbox fanboy of the worst kind says it all. You had to label him somehow, a sony fanboy in dev form. Pathetic.
Jesus christ man.
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pawel86ck
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Your comparison is flawed, because you are talking about different game (different code), so there's no point of reference. Also even if Dirt 5 will run 120fps on both consoles you still have to know on what settings and resolution (maybe PS5 version will use checkerboard rendering to hit 120fps). Dirt 5 is not a simple game like Orphan and I bet there will be many settings to tweak performance.
Thirty7ven
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He doesn't have devkit for neither console. I don't know if that matters for your fantasy world building, but now you know.
MasterCornholio
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That's not what he said with his other tweets. He said that it's a limitation with the software that he's using he also doesn't have a PS5 development kit.
SleepDoctor
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The equivalent. Obviously not a sony one. But regardless its still embarrassing at that level of fanboying. Sorry you couldn't comprehend that.
Thirty7ven
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Sorry that calling it by its name goes against your belief system.
FranXico
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Maybe look for the post where he explains his situation with Unity.
The gap will make some games run a lot better on XSX. But not this Ecco The Dolphin clone. Maybe this game should not be intensive enough to do that. Just maybe.
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