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[Heisenberg007]

"According to SIE internal surveys, almost half of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own a Nintendo Switch, while less than 20% of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own an Xbox Series X or S."

This is really interesting data that came out of today's hearing. And this is has huge business implications in my opinion. I'm listing a few of them here:

• Microsoft introduced Series S as a "secondary" console. But the data shows that more than 80% of PS5 owners did not buy an X or S.
• Perhaps this is also the reason why Series S did not perform as well as Microsoft (and everyone else) initially thought.
• Importantly, this data is from the US -- which is the strongest market for Xbox and where people are most likely to buy an Xbox console, even if they have a PS5.

The last, most important point is the potential success of Starfield as a driver of Xbox console sales.

People expect that Starfield will sell Xbox consoles. MS made it exclusive hoping that even PS5 owners may switch to Xbox or buy a secondary Xbox console to play Starfield. The data so far suggests that the percentage would be extremely low.

Only 20% are dual console owners. Out of the rest of the 80%, a large percentage would not even be interested in playing Starfield. How many more will become a dual console owner because of just 1 game? That's an interesting question.

In light of this data, will Starfield be able to change this percentage, or will the exclusivity decision backfire on Microsoft if PS5 owners don't buy a secondary Series X or S to play Starfield, which leads to lower than projected revenue for Xbox?

 

[Johnny Concrete]

I’m surprised that about 20% does own a second console tbh

 

[Nankatsu]

Why would they?

 

[graywolf323]

I’m surprised that about 20% does own a second console tbh

almost half own a Switch, it’s a second high-end console that a large majority don’t see a reason to spend the money on

 

[MikeM]

Have a PS5. Sold my Series X for PC.

There are no console exclusives from Xbox, so next to no reason to own one.

 

[GrayDock]

I believe most people who want to play Starfield already has a Xbox or a capable PC. Will sell some Xs? Yes it will, but a lot less than most X people think...

 

[TexMex]

I mean you could probably apply the inverse to that as well. Maybe not QUITE as big of a gap, but I'd wager a substantial number of XSX owners don't also own a PS5. "Most" people probably just pick one console, having every system is pretty hardcore reserved.

 

[Ribi]

Guess they wont be playing starfield at 30fps then

 

[TheBROgamer]

And 100% have only a PS5 or either a PC or Switch.

The more logical choices.

 

[Del_X]

There's not really a major reason to until September.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

That seems about right. I have a PS5 as primary console and Switch as secondary. PC for Xbox exclusives and GP.

 

[Ansphn]

This includes me. I sold my Series X and will be getting a PC eventually. Whats the point of an Xbox?

 

[GHG]

Why would they?

Yep this is where I'm at.

Always had an Xbox before they went "day and date" with PC but now there's no need for me to have one, that money just got redirected towards better/more PC hardware.

I'd do the same with playstation if Sony also decided to follow them down that path. It's their own business decisions that have created this situation.

 

[Tsaki]

"this data is from the US -- which is the strongest market for Xbox"
I'd really like to know about the worldwide percentage. But since this is an FTC case there is no reason for them to reveal that.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Why would they?

Humans usually have four limbs and 2 eyes, my theory is that they could play both at the same time. If this was the previous gen i would have said they could finish 1 game on one of those consoles while waiting for the other console to load.

 

[Cornbread78]

Why would they?

I've had both since launch and still use my X everyday for GP stuff, but play & invest mostly on PS5 because the controller alone is soooooooo much better for my gigantic hands

Yes and I know you are referring to there being not much in the way of 1st party games, but tgat will start to change in Sept. I bet a lot of S's will be sold if people do not have a faming Rig/laptop to run Starfield

 

[Kdad]

There is nothing on Xbox that isnt on PC right?

 

[8BiTw0LF]

PS5 + PC = Best Combo

 

[Sweden85]

I have a PC for that...if they release something good. So far only FH5, which is OK.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I believe most people who want to play Starfield already has a Xbox or a capable PC. Will sell some Xs? Yes it will, but a lot less than most X people think...

I'm completely aligned and on record saying the same thing.

Starfield was delayed, and people have been waiting to play it, already subscribed to Game Pass.

While it will be a success by every metric possible, it will not drive a huge uptick in console sales or Game Pass subscriptions, because the large majority of people who want to play Starfield have (1) already bought an Xbox console and (2) subscribed to Game Pass.

No data, of course, but that's what I believe.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

By the way, same doc reveals that almost half of PS5 owners own a Nintendo Switch in the US.

 

[Heisenberg007]

"this data is from the US -- which is the strongest market for Xbox"
I'd really like to know about the worldwide percentage. But since this is an FTC case there is no reason for them to reveal that.

Yeah that would be interesting. I think it's safe to assume that WW it would be less than 10% at best.

 

[Puscifer]

I’m surprised that about 20% does own a second console tbh

I think it's a little obvious at times lol

 

[Methos#1975]

Now what's the stats on those of us that own all three?

 

[lachesis]

I only see that I'm in that special 20% group. If you add in other stuff like Steam Deck and Switch etc - I guess I'll be in top 10%?

 

[Del_X]

Guess they wont be playing starfield at 30fps then

0fps, then?

 

[cash_longfellow]

I used to have an Xbox with my ps3, but there was really no point to get one again because I have a decent laptop that I can play most of the titles on.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Yep this is where I'm at.

Always had an Xbox before they went "day and date" with PC but now there's no need for me to have one, that money just got redirected towards better/more PC hardware.

I'd do the same with playstation if Sony also decided to follow them down that path. It's their own business decisions that have created this situation.

Same here. But I don’t view this as a bad thing. I don’t want consoles. MS gets my money when I buy their games. Win/win.

 

[SHA]

This includes me. I sold my Series X and wil be getting a PC eventually. Whats the point of an Xbox?

Nothing except PC has always been planned for obsolescence, PC community are aware of that despite favoring it, you won't find who don't know about this cause they paid for premium stuff and it's just common sense.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

direct and weak competitor. I wonder what are the switch numbers

 

[Pedro Motta]

I have all of them, does that make me the 1%?

 

[Heisenberg007]

direct and weak competitor. I wonder what are the switch numbers

Almost 50% of PS5 owners have a Switch in the US.

 

[Noxxera]

Make sense. PS have superior controller and UI amongst others. Series X isn't noticeably more powerful either. And PS have most killer exclusive games, xbox only have like Halo and Gears and those aren't even that good as Sonys exclusives.

 

[[Sigma]]

Some of this data definitely came from the PlayStation Owners program im apart of. I remember being asked questions related to this.

 

[K2D]

I have a series X until I can muster the interest in getting into pc again. It's been very thin these past +10 years..

 

[Robb]

I don’t view them as complements and I would guess most people don’t, so this makes sense imo.

 

[GHG]

Same here. But I don’t view this as a bad thing. I don’t want consoles. MS gets my money when I buy their games. Win/win.

Personally I don't see it as a bad thing either, but from a strategic point of view if these businesses actually want to sell consoles and get you invested in the ecosystem as a whole then diluting your core strategy doesn't make much sense.

All Nintendo and Sony games native on PC from day one? Yes please, I'd happily take it. But I can also understand why they would be reluctant to do it.

 

[Noxxera]

"According to SIE internal surveys, almost half of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own a Nintendo Switch, while less than 20% of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own an Xbox Series X or S."

This is really interesting data that came out of today's hearing. And this is has huge business implications in my opinion. I'm listing a few of them here:

• Microsoft introduced Series S as a "secondary" console. But the data shows that more than 80% of PS5 owners did not buy an X or S.
• Perhaps this is also the reason why Series S did not perform as well as Microsoft (and everyone else) initially thought.
• Importantly, this data is from the US -- which is the strongest market for Xbox and where people are most likely to buy an Xbox console, even if they have a PS5.

The last, most important point is the potential success of Starfield as a driver of Xbox console sales.

People expect that Starfield will sell Xbox consoles. MS made it exclusive hoping that even PS5 owners may switch to Xbox or buy a secondary Xbox console to play Starfield. The data so far suggests that the percentage would be extremely low.

Only 20% are dual console owners. Out of the rest of the 80%, a large percentage would not even be interested in playing Starfield. How many more will become a dual console owner because of just 1 game? That's an interesting question.

In light of this data, will Starfield be able to change this percentage, or will the exclusivity decision backfire on Microsoft if PS5 owners don't buy a secondary Series X or S to play Starfield, which leads to lower than projected revenue for Xbox?

Well Series S is a great alternative it seem if you wanna get onto next-gen for as cheap as possible. Too bad it's not 4k tho. Anyway Series S might be something I buy when I have the money to buy a next-gen console. Currently unemployed. But yeah I def want PS5 or Series X if I can afford.

 

[Sid Of Bee]

I am part of the 20%. And have a Switch as well.

 

[Moses85]

 

[BennyBlanco]

Personally I don't see it as a bad thing either, but from a strategic point of view if these businesses actually want to sell consoles and get you invested in the ecosystem as a whole then diluting your core strategy doesn't make much sense.

All Nintendo and Sony games native on PC from day one? Yes please, I'd happily take it. But I can also understand why they would be reluctant to do it.

People like me who buy consoles to play a small handful of exclusives across an entire gen aren’t valuable customers to them. Never gonna pay to play online. Never gonna buy multiplats on console. I legitimately don’t think I have turned on my ps5 or switch in the calendar year 2023.

 

[Wooxsvan]

PS5 + PC = Best Combo

 

[ssringo]

A more interesting statistic would be how many also have a PC for gaming. Cause that would give access to Microsoft's offerings and not be tied to their console.

 

[Putonahappyface]

There's not really a major reason to until September.

That's precisely when I'll be jumping in with the green meanies. There hasn't been any PS5 games since Hogwarts Legacy that interest me so far, and probably nothing for the rest of the year.

 

[Js562]

I got all three. PS5 Xbox and a switch

 

[FrankWza]

There's not really a major reason to until September.

Madden comes out in August and it's not exclusive.

 

[Nydius]

Whoop-whoop! 20% Gang represent!

Edit: Probably the last generation I'll be doing this though. Poor port optimization aside, I'm strongly leaning toward just PC+Nintendo after this generation ends.

 

[Leonidas]

I'll be joining the less than 20% soon

 

[Rob_27]

I've got a PS5 disc version. XSX and XSS. Sorry to dissapoint you all.

 

[Bo_Hazem]