Bryank75
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Is it next gen though?
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Possible Megaton Incoming. New Rumor surround Microsoft series S
93xfan
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The GPU is the most scalable thing in a console. I doubt this GPU will be lower spec than the minimum spec requirements needed for PC anyway.
eastwood333
Banned
Yes, Zen2 CPU,RDNA GPU/Achitecture/SSD Its far more capable than an XB1X. It will play all of the big Next gen games.
EASY!
Bryank75
Banned
Why were the developers complaining about it?
93xfan
Banned
Do you honestly believe there will only be a 20% difference in price between the Series S and the Series X?
That’s almost as bad as people who believe next gen will cost $600-$700 USD.
eastwood333
Banned
Its more work! And I've only seen like...a couple of devs complaining. And I've seen devs mention the obvious "it's called scaleing" with games just running at lower resolutions,framerate, and less bells n whistles.
Whats next?
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Bryank75
Banned
Nothing at all.. it seems like Xbox has this very broad catch-all approach to gaming.... it's interesting, we'll see how it pans out.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Punished Miku
Gold Member
This would be the silver bullet.
They need to be your 3rd console. You will still get PS5. You will still have switch. Or if xbox is cheap and has gamepads you'll get it too.
Bolivar687
Banned
They said the same thing last time - Microsoft was supposed to overperform and underprice the PS4 with Xbox One because of the imaginary Microsoft war chest.
The Xbox One X retails right now for $400 - $500. I honestly can't believe I'm reading people in this thread saying they really expect a $200 Lockhart. I don't know how anyone would think Game Pass is the subsidized console's lifeline when it cuts into their game sales.
I expect the Series S pricing to surprise us but this would be suicidal.
The Xbox One X retails right now for $400 - $500. I honestly can't believe I'm reading people in this thread saying they really expect a $200 Lockhart. I don't know how anyone would think Game Pass is the subsidized console's lifeline when it cuts into their game sales.
I expect the Series S pricing to surprise us but this would be suicidal.
DrScissorsMD
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Because they care about services, because selling Xboxes are then selling gateways to their services, because you’re assuming Sony would want or let them sell their games/services on PS. The “why don’t they sell their games on PlayStation” argument makes no sense and implies it’s entirely up to MS where and for how much they sell their games and services for. It ain’t that black and white chief.
SplunkyMunkey
Member
Then sony should counter it having it 50 dollars more since ps5 digital and drive sre the same spec
Mistershine.
Banned
So this is just a YouTube version of the following rumour that's already been discussed to death?
www.neogaf.com
Xbox Series S/Lockhart Will Be Half The Price Of The Series X
Speaking on the Beyond3D forums, eastmen, who has proved in the past to have access to Microsoft insider information, revealed that the Xbox Series S will be half the price of the Series X, come in a small form factor and it will be an all-digital console. The insider doesn't know the final...
Stiflers Mom
Banned
If the only difference is resolution this thing will sell gangbusters.
Most people don't have a 4k tv yet anyway.
tryDEATH
Member
Really this is your argument, so we just going to ignore their past failures in difference sectors to gain market share. Zune/Zune Pass, Windows Phone, Multiple Windows Tablets, Bing, and many other products cost the company billions, but that never stoped them from investing and trying to gain more and more market share in all sort of sector.
The Xbox is no different it is a fight for the living room and has been since the Xbox One launch, only now they actually know where the future lies and everyone is ready for it. I mean they already have the technology in Xcloud and their primary competitor is using their hardware/software. This is a sure bet for MS to go in and recuperate a huge chunk of market share that they lost this generation as this will be the last chance to lock in customers into their eco-system.
Shin
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Nonsense, they choose to, just like they Japanese publishers choose to release most of their games on PS only.
When they could be making more money on Xbox and perhaps PC as well, they will do what makes most sense to them financially.
It doesn't mean a game has to suffer and this way of thinking has been making the rounds for a while, yet the concept isn't new nor has held back hardware/games in the decades it has been done.
timmyp53
Member
This gotta be the most ridiculous rumor I've heard yet. If y'all think it's gonna be this cheap, something is wrong with you.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If you use ReviewTechUSA as any kind of source, you’ll fall for anything... just like he does and then puts out a video later saying he was wrong, often.
The majority of his videos are his opinionated clickbait off of other people’s information/rumors/etc.
His mini console unboxing videos are decent all things considered.
The majority of his videos are his opinionated clickbait off of other people’s information/rumors/etc.
His mini console unboxing videos are decent all things considered.
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Bryank75
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I think it will be below that... maybe 120 - 150.
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iJudged
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Not how shit works lol
Why do people complain in general ?
That’s why they are codenames, for internal use , they can use as much as they like.
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SaucyJack
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MastaKiiLA
Member
Isn't there already a thread on this?
SaucyJack
Member
And at a stroke 12 vs 10 Tflops is rendered meaningless
TTOOLL
Member
And all the products you mentioned and don't make them money are DEAD. XBOX is not a first gen device, the OG XBOX was. XBOX nowadays is a successful and profitable brand. The day it isn't anymore MS will just kill it just like all the failures you mentioned.
kuncol02
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I could see Sony subsidizing only disc less version of PS5 to push people to digital only
I bought mine for ~320$ (including 23% sales tax) bundled with all Gears games and new Modern Warfare (literally on its launch day).
pretty sure the series s will be to replace the one and one x on the market while playing the next gen games at current gen levels of detail, and thus all current one models will be replaced by it.
With all the back end stuff MS has been working on it could work well, its been working for PCs since day 0 and if it works out would be a huge step in making next gen affordable for all, not everyone cares about 4k60 but rather than want the new experiences and stories that come with all the sequels and the rare new ip that we get these days.
With all the back end stuff MS has been working on it could work well, its been working for PCs since day 0 and if it works out would be a huge step in making next gen affordable for all, not everyone cares about 4k60 but rather than want the new experiences and stories that come with all the sequels and the rare new ip that we get these days.
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In case of PS4, the average number of games bought in the whole generation was 10.7. (1.18 billion games sold on 110 million users). Let's say the average game price would be $45, because a lot of people buy them in sales and not at full price. This results in $480 per user spend on games.
Let's say Microsoft stops selling games and only does Game Pass. Microsoft Game Pass is $10 per month. So to match that they need to be able to sell on average 4 years of Game Pass next-gen to each user. $480 / 10 (price GP) / 12 (months) => 4 years, of the 7 years (normal generation span).
It might be difficult to get to that number, but then again it's not impossible. Let's not forget that for each game they actually sell the need for Game Pass to get break-even goes down too. And maybe that average $45 is even wrong, and is lower or higher.
Rolla
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FACTS! They're planning on selling a less powerful console (lockheart) in comparison to the PS5 and they think that's going to help?!
cHaOs667
Member
X-Box One X retails in Germany for 290 Euro (~ 324 USD, Tax included). Bundled with a game (like Gears 5 or Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order for example)
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Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
Honestly they should just rebrand the X1S as the series X and tell people it's next gen. Then they can say they have the cheapest next gen console for sure and apparently scalable engines means there's no drawbacks
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
If it's half the series X I was thinking that must mean series X is $599. What's the point of having the cheaper alternative if youre gonna price gouge yourself on the high end one? Just say you're cheapest from the cheap one
DESTROYA
Member
So the cheaper model will sell more than the deluxe model everyones raving about being the “most powerful“ console ever made? I’ll be laughing my ass off if that turns out to be true.
Shaqazooloo
Member
If this is true I'll probably buy one a few months after launch.
HushiMushi
Banned
eh, no, I don't think so.
XSX: $499
XSS: $299
at best.
XSX: $499
XSS: $299
at best.
eastwood333
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Possibly. Depends on the price of XSX. Usually its the hardcore that are first in line to buy next gen premium consoles. So I expect both will sell very well unless XSX is 600 bucks or something, which is highly unlikely.
DESTROYA
Member
Well don’t you think that’s pretty disingenuous if your user base is mostly made up of a cheaper less powerful console ?
What makes you so sure the next gen XsX won’t cost $600? Stuff you heard on the internet.
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REE Machine
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Your theory already sucks because they arent giving you a reason to get s new xbox and phil said you dont have to buy one
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It is possible MS will go super aggressive like this. It makes more sense now than ever as they have pivoted away from the 360/XB1 model.
This will at least be real competition for PS5, which I'm guessing will be at least $50 more expensive because of the SSD and premium cooling/design.
This will at least be real competition for PS5, which I'm guessing will be at least $50 more expensive because of the SSD and premium cooling/design.