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[sobaka770]

It's important to remember that we're on gaming forums. The social dynamics of political opinions are driven by the lowest common denominator i.e. dumb motherfuckers who confuse spending too much time on social media with being informed; those echo chambers make users more extreme in their beliefs over time

I hear ya, mate, but it's not always possible to dissociate the two as games tend to be political in nature (unless it's Ubisoft game of course!). LotU2 is the latest example of people wanting to discuss actual game merits and political zealots on all sides of the spectrum. Just gotta plough through. But I'll reiterate that at least discussion is not stifled here, while Resetera unfortunately got overboard in that regard.

 

[Auto_aim1]

Neogaf is a million times better. It was way worse than Era at one point.

 

[Shai-Tan]

Not making this up.

"White people are either adversaries, obstacles, or scenery. "

And yeah, there have been a lot of replies about race recently but this just shows the dynamics of how Reset works.

There is no underlying agenda here. Whoever I make a post or reply to, race isn't the first thing to come to mind. Common sense is.

One of the issues with echo chambers is that talking about other people rather than with them is the tendency to caricature. Charity is not only about the most reasonable interpretation of what was said but the best form that you could muster for it. You didn’t provide the context to really judge what “ally” they were referring to. While some people do a fine job confusing mob moralism* for good moral reasoning that doesn’t imply that there aren’t good reasons behind the ”inchoate” i.e. dumbass form of positions people tend to take on forums **

* https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-cruel-moraliser-uses-a-halo-to-disguise-his-horns

** e.g. all the caricatures of identity based standpoint that Elizabeth Anderson complains about in the following, 15+ years ago run rampant on forums

How not to criticize feminist epistemology: Review of Pinnick, Koertge, and Almeder

makes you think that maybe people on forums are ignorant gits who shouldn’t be taken seriously. By all means, arm yourself with better reasons but don’t turn it into a game of looking into fun house mirrors to see the caricature you want to see

 

[haxan7]

Currently Resetera, because it actually loads lol

Hey EviLore take a break from polishing your yacht and feed the damn gerbils running the wheels that power the NeoGAF.com

I blame Rentahamster

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I blame Rentahamster

 

[HellforLeather]

A tale of two Reset users.

vs.

The next time someone sees a game developer/publisher on Resetera, show them this.

I wont do it because I don't wanna touch Reeshit, but I really want answers as to how these industry peeps turn a blind eye to this stuff but then get on their knees every time a game is deemed "offensive".


Bonus:

More users are waking up, but Reset clamps down even harder.

Hollleeeee fuk. Not surprised in the least though, especially when so many of the mental acrobats on there are constantly parroting that racism is "prejudice plus power" and that no minority is ever in a position of power ever.

On another note, very surprised to hear about Gamefaqs. I remember way back in the day that I didnt even think they had a mod team. There would be entire threads of people going back and forth with personal insults over shit and never got modded. It seemed like everything was permitted short of death threats.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Currently Resetera, because it actually loads lol

Hey EviLore take a break from polishing your yacht and feed the damn gerbils running the wheels that power the NeoGAF.com

You filthy peasant, you think he polishes his own yacht?

 

[IntentionalPun]

You filthy peasant, you think he polishes his own yacht?

That's right, he lives in Texas.

Here in Seattle yacht polishers aren't allowed to work during the pandemic; I forgot Tyler lived in the land of the free.

 

[EviLore]

I was literally just banned from the dumpster fire that is ResetEra for posting I voted Trump because I perfered him to Hilary, that was some how trolling. How do the mods there even sleep at night with a clear conscious, they are garbage people,

Hey Methos. I've reviewed your old ban under Jsev75 and don't think what happened to you was banworthy, so I've cleared all of that and merged your old account into your new one. Let me know if you'd rather have your original GAF username.

 

[carlosrox]

I wish this place was busier but aside from that I'd have to go with GAF after witnessing how pathetic of a hypocritical echo chamber Era can be.

Their moderation fucking blows and is all over the place.

They may as well rename themselves to CancelEra.

You seriously cannot even speak your mind or ask earnest questions over there. Every single one of my bans was over the dumbest shit.

I liked some people there and the discussion could be good sometimes but some people are just insufferable.

Such a disgusting "you're either with us or against us" aura over there.

 

[V4skunk]

Hollleeeee fuk. Not surprised in the least though, especially when so many of the mental acrobats on there are constantly parroting that racism is "prejudice plus power" and that no minority is ever in a position of power ever.

On another note, very surprised to hear about Gamefaqs. I remember way back in the day that I didnt even think they had a mod team. There would be entire threads of people going back and forth with personal insults over shit and never got modded. It seemed like everything was permitted short of death threats.

Gamespot system wars forum back in the early 2000's was batshit insane.

 

[teezzy]

Gamespot system wars forum back in the early 2000's was batshit insane.

Lemmings, cows, and sheep.

 

[V4skunk]

Lemmings, cows, and sheep.

And hermits lol.

 

[JordanN]

Resetera trying to stroke a Civil War.

 

[Troyaferd]

I never heard of resetera, so Neo.

 

[nush]

Resetera trying to stroke a Civil War.

Has Biden said he'd roll tanks in there too?

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

On the other hand it's clearly much more right-leaning..

Nope.
Search for 'political compass' threads to see real world evidence that shows your claim to be proven false.

 

[sobaka770]

Nope.
Search for 'political compass' threads to see real world evidence that shows your claim to be proven false.

You're joking right? ResetERA has most conservative voices and views banned and just a simple look at their political threads vs NeoGAF is proof enough.
If you want to prove that NeoGAF is just as left-leaning as Reset - be my guest, I'd love to see the receipts.

 

[Papa]

You're joking right? ResetERA has most conservative voices and views banned and just a simple look at their political threads vs NeoGAF is proof enough.
If you want to prove that NeoGAF is just as left-leaning as Reset - be my guest, I'd love to see the receipts.

Right of Resetera could be anything from Bernie Sanders to Augusto Pinochet

 

[VincentMatts]

I wish this place was busier but aside from that I'd have to go with GAF after witnessing how pathetic of a hypocritical echo chamber Era can be.

Their moderation fucking blows and is all over the place.

They may as well rename themselves to CancelEra.

You seriously cannot even speak your mind or ask earnest questions over there. Every single one of my bans was over the dumbest shit.

I liked some people there and the discussion could be good sometimes but some people are just insufferable.

Such a disgusting "you're either with us or against us" aura over there.

exactly this. No freedom of speech, no different view points. It’s absolutely a hive mind over there. Don’t you dare try to play devil’s advocate either. 9 times out of 10, you’ll get banned for it.

that place is the most unhealthy forum on the planet, easily.

 

[sobaka770]

Right of Resetera could be anything from Bernie Sanders to Augusto Pinochet

Ye I think they aren't too hot on Bernie either anymore... that's the problem with wanting purity, at some point the political ideology comes full circle and you're suddenly realising that what you're looking for is an arian race.

But then again political discussion on NeoGAF is to the right of let's-be-fair a milquetoast moderate Biden judging by the voting poll and general sentiment. And don't get me started how right wing the whole thing looks from European point of view where France has been on lockdown for months, Germany and Switzerland are patiently opening up with good level of trust in government.

In any case, I think my initial post is still correct as I compare two communities.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

You're joking right? ResetERA has most conservative voices and views banned and just a simple look at their political threads vs NeoGAF is proof enough.
If you want to prove that NeoGAF is just as left-leaning as Reset - be my guest, I'd love to see the receipts.

I have already directed you to evidence that disproves your claim. You appear to have refused to look at it and simply doubled-down on your claim.
I note, also, you are misrepresenting what I said. Don't do that.

 

[sobaka770]

I have already directed you to evidence that disproves your claim. You appear to have refused to look at it and simply doubled-down on your claim.

 

[King of Foxes]

A tale of two Reset users.

vs.

The next time someone sees a game developer/publisher on Resetera, show them this.

I wont do it because I don't wanna touch Reeshit, but I really want answers as to how these industry peeps turn a blind eye to this stuff but then get on their knees every time a game is deemed "offensive".


Bonus:

More users are waking up, but Reset clamps down even harder.

And I would bet my testicles everyone in those screen shots will still vote Biden and turn a blind eye to all his racist and retarded comments...and still be convinced it's not hypocrisy

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

I pointed to evidence. You ignored evidence. I pointed to evidence again.

After misrepresenting what I said you are now asserting that me repeating my reference to evidence is bait and that I am moving the goalposts.

Check the evidence and you'll find I am correct with what I said.
Or don't check the evidence and continue to freewheel into farce.

 

[VincentMatts]

I pointed to evidence. You ignored evidence. I pointed to evidence again.

After misrepresenting what I said you are now asserting that me repeating my reference to evidence is bait and that I am moving the goalposts.

Check the evidence and you'll find I am correct with what I said.
Or don't check the evidence and continue to freewheel into farce.

what evidence have you pointed to exactly? The “go search the treads” comment? That’s evidence to you? Do you know what evidence means? Maybe look that up first.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

what evidence have you pointed to exactly? The “go search the treads” comment? That’s evidence to you? Do you know what evidence means? Maybe look that up first.

I'm going to take a wild guess that you've not reviewed the evidence I've pointed to either.
I suspect if you had then you wouldn't be misquoting what I said and would have better understood my argument.

Oh, I am intimately familiar with what evidence is. It's one of my signature arguments when presented with people pushing a narrative. I suspect many who've read my posts find my endorsement of it to be tiresomely repetitive. That's why I refer to it from the offset - as I did here.

I've already linked to it far earlier in threads. Searching for "Political compass" threads (there are more than one) is the evidence I refer to.

Spoon-feeding information to someone I already know is in the wrong and has previously proven themselves to be both unreasonable and also a hypocrite only goes so far.
The exhibition of denial, doubling-down, misrepresentation and distortion was in line with my expectations.

The evidence exists. I've referenced it and provided a means to review it. That is ample for anyone interested in truth over narrative.

My recommendation stands:

Check the evidence and you'll find I am correct with what I said.
Or don't check the evidence and continue to freewheel into farce.

 

[VincentMatts]

Nope.
Search for 'political compass' threads to see real world evidence that shows your claim to be proven false.

i’ve gone through your post history you have shown no actual evidence other than to tell people to do a research on that site themselves. That is not evidence. Could you imagine being a lawyer, walking in the court room and telling the judge to go search the peoples apartments himself so he’ll find the truth? You’d be thrown out on your ass.

If you have evidence to show, then show it otherwise stop arguing if you’re not willing to do the research yourself. No I’m not going over to go through political compass posts.

I’ve been on the reset I know what it’s like. I don’t need to do the research.

 

[Papa]

i’ve gone through your post history you have shown no actual evidence other than to tell people to do a research on that site themselves. That is not evidence. Could you imagine being a lawyer, walking in the court room and telling the judge to go search the peoples apartments himself so he’ll find the truth? You’d be thrown out on your ass.

If you have evidence to show, then show it otherwise stop arguing if you’re not willing to do the research yourself. No I’m not going over to go through political compass posts.

I’ve been on the reset I know what it’s like. I don’t need to do the research.

Are you new here? The political compass thread has been linked ad nauseam

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

i’ve gone through your post history you have shown no actual evidence other than to tell people to do a research on that site themselves.

You are lying.

I'll remind you that I've already called you out for misquoting me. So I already know you are playing fast and loose with actual events for the purpose of your preferred argument.

I'll repeat my recommendation:

Check the evidence and you'll find I am correct with what I said.
Or don't check the evidence and continue to freewheel into farce.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

This is funny. I know the evidence is there, I've seen it. Yet one side refuses to look for it and the other refuses to link it. We could be here for while.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

This is funny. I know the evidence is there, I've seen it. Yet one side refuses to look for it and the other refuses to link it. We could be here for while.

I've explained why I don't spoon-feed to people that I already know are bad actors, I prefer to give them rope.

I've just updated my post above with proof of one of these bad actors lying about my actions.

 

[DKehoe]

what evidence have you pointed to exactly? The “go search the treads” comment? That’s evidence to you? Do you know what evidence means? Maybe look that up first.

It's not that hard to find the political compass thread. Here you go. Most users seemed to be in the left libertarian quadrant. But on the other hand yes, GAF is "much more right leaning" in the sense that right wing voices can exist here.

 

[Kanton]

As a "libtard" i can say era is the forum equivalent of a bigot. I was banned for "defending sexual abuse" simply for reminding people that the Ronaldo rumours where still rumours. I sent them a message reminding them of the outcome and big fucking i told you so... no answer lol. I would love to read a "why where you banned from Resetera?" thread, gonna be some fun stories in there for sure.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Has Biden said he'd roll tanks in there too?

Only for the ones that wouldn't vote for him.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

Let's count the points:
- Resetera has more users and more posts in gaming category
- My personal beliefs are closer to those expressed by Resetera users with a huge asterisks that I do not adhere to the purity of thought and accept that some opinions need to be challenged and nuanced which is untenable on that forum

- Neogaf doesn't drive hardline adoption of far-left beliefs and create safety bubbles for the oppressed. On the other hand it's clearly much more right-leaning as a result which makes the two forums kind of a mirror image in that aspect.

Tough!

I think initially Resetera had a very good movement, lot of positivity and variety but as many have expressed it's not tenable to have a gaming forum alongside an off-topic discussions ranging from Star Wars and Marvel showdowns to political where the discussion is stifled by moderators promoting very fringe ideas in addition to users themselves. I think NeoGAF does this better with allowing open if sometimes hostile discussion.

The one thing that I think is underrated is having tags for each thread available. A lot can be solved by having additional tags as "sensitive" or "serious" or "for fun" instead of oppressive moderation. You can allow a feminist thread which is serious and a boobs thread for fun.

Also, emoji reactions. It wouldn’t surprise me if a large number of replieS over there are just people reacting:

“Good!”
“LOL”
“WTF”
“Slaaaay qweeeen”

And so on.

 

[Airola]

I'm not sure if it that certain political and social standing can even be called left anymore. Not even far-left. It seems to be a thing of its own.
So maybe just as zer and zim can be used instead of her and him, maybe their political leaning is zeft.

 

[Coily]

My biggest gripe with post Web 2.0 internetting is that there is no place for normal people who describe themselves as centrists, doesn't matter if it's centre-left or centre-right.
The internets pulls people to the Far Extremes which is not reflective of the real world.

Normal people don't hold 100% Far-Left or 100% Far-Right brains on all issues.

It's like if there is no room if you want to explain the GREY AREA, you then get burned by either the Far-Left Anarcho-Commies or by the Far-Right Fascist cultists.

""'uuhhhh, define normal!" lol

 

[DKehoe]

My biggest gripe with post Web 2.0 internetting is that there is no place for normal people who describe themselves as centrists, doesn't matter if it's centre-left or centre-right.
The internets pulls people to the Far Extremes which is not reflective of the real world.

Normal people don't hold 100% Far-Left or 100% Far-Right brains on all issues.

It's like if there is no room if you want to explain the GREY AREA, you then get burned by either the Far-Left Anarcho-Commies or by the Far-Right Fascist cultists.

""'uuhhhh, define normal!" lol

The people who jump to describing you as an extreme aren't really worth engaging with. They're just playing a game to see how they can trip you up and then they think that means they "win." "You said X, so that means you believe Y, so therefore you're a communist/fascist." When they operate like that there's nothing you can really do to convince them otherwise. Because they've already got a box for you and their endgame is fitting you in that.

 

[teezzy]

The trick is to realize that it really doesnt matter what strangers on the internet think, whether it be GAF, Era, Reddit, Twitter, etc.

At the end of the day, we're all a bunch of introverted weirdos pecking away at our phones and keyboard, searching for some sort of meaning in life. That's our common ground.

 

[LordKasual]

Not making this up.

"White people are either adversaries, obstacles, or scenery. "

And yeah, there have been a lot of replies about race recently but this just shows the dynamics of how Reset works.

There is no underlying agenda here. Whoever I make a post or reply to, race isn't the first thing to come to mind. Common sense is.

Why do people do this? Find extremely stupid quotes and then use them as an attack on an entire community?

Do you have any idea how mother fucking stupid any other forum could make NeoGAF look by cherry picking some exceptionally stupid posts out of context and then claiming we all think like them?

My biggest gripe with post Web 2.0 internetting is that there is no place for normal people who describe themselves as centrists, doesn't matter if it's centre-left or centre-right.
The internets pulls people to the Far Extremes which is not reflective of the real world.

Normal people don't hold 100% Far-Left or 100% Far-Right brains on all issues.

It's like if there is no room if you want to explain the GREY AREA, you then get burned by either the Far-Left Anarcho-Commies or by the Far-Right Fascist cultists.

""'uuhhhh, define normal!" lol

The problem is that "normal" people approach conversations with shades of grey while extremists only fight with red.....as in, "this is a flamethrower and i'm aiming it everywhere".

There are more of you than you think....the issue is just that you are conversing with people who are active in the conversation for completely different reasons than you are.

The conversation is always a battlefield, and if you aren't on their side, you're either perceived as against them, or you're unfortunately just standing in the way.

 

[lock2k]

Why do people do this? Find extremely stupid quotes and then use them as an attack on an entire community?

Do you have any idea how mother fucking stupid any other forum could make NeoGAF look by cherry picking some exceptionally stupid posts out of context and then claiming we all think like them?

The thing is... do that there and you're not banned. It's ENDORSED by the mods. So it CAN be applied to the whole community.

 

[LordKasual]

The thing is... do that there and you're not banned. It's ENDORSED by the mods. So it CAN be applied to the whole community.

This doesn't make any sense though.

Just because something is endorsed by the mods doesn't mean that the whole community beats to the same drum AS the moderators. It just means that anyone who's vocally against them gets their voice taken away. The posters aren't able to control the decisions of the moderators.

The only choice they DO have is to choose to post there, or choose not to.


It's not an echo chamber because everyone who posts there thinks the same. It's an echo chamber because opinions that diverge too far from the loud ones get silenced.

It's really tempting to just say everyone on ResetEra is crazy and NeoGAF is the only place with "Free Thinkers" but that's just not true.


And lets be honest, people who post shit like that WOULD get banned here, because it's absurdly inflammatory and absolutely wouldn't fly. So ResetEra is the only choice anyway.

 

[lock2k]

This doesn't make any sense though.

Just because something is endorsed by the mods doesn't mean that the whole community beats to the same drum AS the moderators. It just means that anyone who's vocally against them gets their voice taken away. The posters aren't able to control the decisions of the moderators.

The only choice they DO have is to choose to post there, or choose not to.

OK, fair enough. But they seem to enjoy it.

Would you post in a Neo Nazi forum and want to be around those people, albeit virtually? I know I wouldn't.

I chose to stay away from Retard era for the same reason. Anyone who has a remotely original brain there gets banned.

 

[Amory]

This doesn't make any sense though.

Just because something is endorsed by the mods doesn't mean that the whole community beats to the same drum AS the moderators. It just means that anyone who's vocally against them gets their voice taken away. The posters aren't able to control the decisions of the moderators.

The only choice they DO have is to choose to post there, or choose not to.


It's not an echo chamber because everyone who posts there thinks the same. It's an echo chamber because opinions that diverge too far from the loud ones get silenced.

It's really tempting to just say everyone on ResetEra is crazy and NeoGAF is the only place with "Free Thinkers" but that's just not true.


And lets be honest, people who post shit like that WOULD get banned here, because it's absurdly inflammatory and absolutely wouldn't fly. So ResetEra is the only choice anyway.

I think it's fair to say that long term, everyone there will think the same. It's inevitable, because people who don't think the same are banned.

It's why Gaf went down the shitter for all those years. It started out as some lefty extremists moving the 'line of acceptability' slightly to the left, then slightly more, then more, etc., and then ended up where the community was so full of insane people that you couldn't speak your mind without being constantly dogpiled and ultimately banned.

over time, that raises the concentration of the crazies. and over a long enough time, normal people just stay away because it's too fucking toxic to even bother lurking.

 

[LordKasual]

OK, fair enough. But they seem to enjoy it.

Would you post in a Neo Nazi forum and want to be around those people, albeit virtually? I know I wouldn't.

I chose to stay away from Retard era for the same reason. Anyone who has a remotely original brain there gets banned.

I mean of course people enjoy it.

If you ignore the crazies, there are alot of really good posters and discussions there. People who don't even bother posting in the political / outrage threads and just enjoy the gaming discussion.



And considering the Neo Nazi thing:


look, this is just my personal opinion.....but the kind of toxicity in ResetEra is a slowburn kind of toxic that spreads into niche communities....But more than anything, their obsessions and crazy viewpoints are more self-destructive than anything else. These are people who are in combat with "injustices" they can find in literally everything around them. The amount of posts that boil down to "I'm depressed/sad/discouraged by the state of the world" posts are pretty staggering.

These are the kinds of people who'll say White People are the ultimate enemy, men are the devil, ect ect...but also deplore gun violence, wouldn't dream of physically harming any woman, and dream of a utopia where everywhere is a safe space. They aren't going to shoot up a church or plow down the driveway of a Right-Wing rally because such an action doesn't align with their high-horse, self-righteous, morally superior mindset, no matter how deep into it they go.


ResetEra insanity is the kind of thing that results in social annoyances, like the "SJW/Woke pandering" that people on GAF commonly complain about.

Neo Nazis are a COMPLETELY different flavor of crazy......the most brainwashed/extreme will go to carry out their ideals in a blaze of glory, to the praise of their communities. Not the same kind of threat IMO.


TL;DR I don't put them on the same tier as Neo Nazis, even if, functionally, they are just about equally insane.

Same insanity algorithm, different input.

I think it's fair to say that long term, everyone there will think the same. It's inevitable, because people who don't think the same are banned.

This is, unfortunately, true.

Even if the centrists stay silent as the community grows with time, the crazies will just increase in density.

Anyone in the grey who gets fed up will speak up and promptly be banned.


At which point they either fall in line, or keep going until the Perma hits.

 

[JordanN]

Why do people do this? Find extremely stupid quotes

I'm glad you at least acknowledge that Resetera does indeed have very stupid users.

and then use them as an attack on an entire community?

They are made more audible by moderation who espouse similar beliefs while deliberately banning others who go against or question them.

Imagine a school where one kid might say "I wish I could just shoot up "x" group" and while it may be one student, the teacher and then principle comes along and says "yeah, we all do wish we could shoot up "x" group" while any and all dissenting students are suspended. I don't know about you but I'm not going to send my kids there.

Do you have any idea how mother fucking stupid any other forum could make NeoGAF

Who is this "other" forum and what exactly do they have or possibly do that puts them above GAF?
Let me educate you LordKasual. I honestly wouldn't care. Because I'm not close minded or arrogant enough to believe that we're all perfect. I don't attempt to say GAF is perfect or that some people can't be wrong.

Now, you can explain to me your idea of any other forum making us looking "mother fucking stupid" when we don't hold values that pertain to perfectionism or rabid denial?

look by cherry picking some exceptionally stupid posts out of context and then claiming we all think like them?

Yes, out of context.
Because lets pretend from the beginning Resetera has never once pivoted from its position of making anti-white posts?

Ironically, this screenshot was taken before he was an admin and before he was a moderator. But yes, everything is just "out of context" in your eyes.

They must be speaking a foreign language when I see a lot of posts that say "yes, we do want to hurt you" but they actually mean something else.

 

[JordanN]

Neo Nazis are a COMPLETELY different flavor of crazy......the most brainwashed/extreme will go to carry out their ideals in a blaze of glory, to the praise of their communities. Not the same kind of threat IMO.

Resetera still fits that bill.

That's basically what the core of them did back in October 2017. Rather than wait for a police investigation or the court of law to handle Evilore's story (which ironically, the accuser actually turned down this offer, making the story even more suspcious), they accused anyone of being on this site as being "rapists" or "harassers" and flooded the site with NSFW crap.

So no, they're not mentally right in the head anymore than a Neo-Nazi who is on the verge of cracking.

 

[LordKasual]

I'm glad you at least acknowledge that Resetera does indeed have very stupid users.

Uh......yeah.....???????

I just refuse to agree with the idea that everyone (or even majority of) the people who post there are willing to spout comments as crazy as the ones that frequently get printscreen'd and posted here as examples of insanity.

Your posts suggest that you think I hold a much higher opinion of ResetEra than I actually do.

Resetera still fits that bill.

That's basically what the core of them did back in October 2017. Rather than wait for a police investigation or the court of law to handle Evilore's story (which ironically, the accuser actually turned down this offer, making the story even more suspcious), they accused anyone of being on this site as being "rapists" or "harassers" and flooded the site with NSFW crap.

So no, they're not mentally right in the head anymore than a Neo-Nazi who is on the verge of cracking.

As i said:

ResetEra insanity is the kind of thing that results in social annoyances, like the "SJW/Woke pandering" that people on GAF commonly complain about.

Mass trolling a forum is not tantamount to attempted (or sucessful) mass murder.

If you're trying to force a real-world equivalence between ResetEra crazies and Neo Nazis, you're still falling exceptionally short. Modern left-wing extremists are nowhere close to the same tier.

Again, as I said:

TL;DR I don't put them on the same tier as Neo Nazis, even if, functionally, they are just about equally insane.

Same insanity algorithm, different input.

They think the same. But because of their ideals, they are not the same.

A "BLAZE OF GLORY" for a Neo Nazi isn't confined to forum and twitter posts. It involves violence and [mass] murder.

That has always been the difference between left/right wing extremism. At least, as far as our generation goes -- political parties in the past looked completely different.

 

[JordanN]

Uh......yeah.....???????

You don't seem to realize the irony?

My/our problem with Reset isn't what just one users said. My problem is they don't have self awareness. They don't have the ability to take criticism and reflect.

I don't know anyone who uses Neogaf who sees it as a paragon of righteousness. I honestly think that would be weird because I see it as a gaming forum first, and everything else second.

But on the Reset side of things, they do believe they're on a holy crusade and it's "everybody else" that is just internally at fault.

That's why it's a dumb comparison to try and say you're going to make this forum look "mother fucking stupid" when we're not that fragile or it's no skin off our bones what expectations we live up to.

Mass trolling a forum is not tantamount to attempted (or sucessful) mass murder.

It's evidence that they are fanatics and cannot be reasoned with in similar ways we view other extremists. And when time does come to pull the trigger, they are more than willing go off that cliff to make a point.

And after all, you can read their forum and find many users making death threats veiled at their enemies and the moderation once again, privately agreeing with them or giving them a pass.

Edit: And oh yeah, they have been shown on record to go after and doxx people in real life. Does this not count for criminal behavior or breech of privacy?