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Bethesda reiterates Elder Scrolls 6 news is likely ‘years away’

Mista

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On Sunday Bethesda’s SVP of global marketing, Pete Hines, suggested that fans were unlikely to hear about TES6 until work on Starfield was completed.

Hines tweeted:
It’s after Starfield, which you pretty much know nothing about. So if you’re coming at me for details now and not years from now, I’m failing to properly manage your expectations.
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In a previous interview, Bethesda Game Studios director Todd Howard said that Starfield would likely occupy the attention of its studios for a period of time.

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That sucks. They were always saying that they weren't able to build it due to current systems not being powerful enough. Are we going to have another generation without a proper new Elder Scrolls?
 
OutrageousFacts

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There's gonna be a serious lack of AAA-immersive medieval fantasy-rpgs then. I guess our best hopes are a new fable-game, Witcher 4 and Monolith Soft's new ip.

Really hoped to play ES6 in 2 years or so :/
 
Andodalf

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INCUBASE said:
No, you're not..........
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translation: Nobody is allowed to joke about what I like :messenger_pouting::messenger_pouting::messenger_pouting:


X-Fighter said:
That sucks. They were always saying that they weren't able to build it due to current systems not being powerful enough. Are we going to have another generation without a proper new Elder Scrolls?
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Nah, We get it by late next gen. The PS5 Pro and Xbox Series X X might be out though
 
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Stilton Disco

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I still don't get why they announced this game.

Did anyone seriously think they weren't work8ng on a sequel to Skyrim, a game that is up there with Doom and Resi 4 when it comes to getting ported to ever single platfarom capablenof running it?

If you've got nothing to show, keeep uour trap shut. Otherwise all you do is build unmeetable expectations and piss your fans off.
 
Oddspeak

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Starfield was always intended to come first. Todd even stated so explicitly when these games were announced at E3 2018. Only reason TES6 was even revealed then was likely to ensure people that it exists and was coming, because it had already been almost 7 years since Skyrim.

Personally, I say don't expect Starfield until 2021-2022, and TES6 until 2023-2024.
 
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Stilton Disco said:
I still don't get why they announced this game.

Did anyone seriously think they weren't work8ng on a sequel to Skyrim, a game that is up there with Doom and Resi 4 when it comes to getting ported to ever single platfarom capablenof running it?

If you've got nothing to show, keeep uour trap shut. Otherwise all you do is build unmeetable expectations and piss your fans off.
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Damage control to take the edge off the overwhelming negative reaction to Fallout 76. "Stick with us fans! We haven't forgotten you! Promise!"

Same reason Bioware teased Dragon Age 4 not long after Anthem released.

In my case it's kinda worked as well. I've just ignored 76 & Anthem & told myself keep faith, the good times will be back.
 
TexMex

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At least he knows he failing. When they announce it as a means of deflecting negative press two years(?) ago - of course people are going to start asking. Wouldn’t be surprised if work hadn’t even started on the thing when they threw up that title card.
 
Stuart360

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I dont know whats so surprising for people, we already knew Starfield was coming first, and Starfield is probably a couple of years away itself. The earliest we will get our hands on Elder Scrolls 6 is probably 5 years from now, if not 6.
 
Stuart360

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We will be well into the second half of next gen before we get our hands on Elder Scrolls 6. Fallout 5 will probably be a end of gen cross gen title with Xbox 5/PS6, unless they give it to one of their other studios.
 
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I'll admit, I'm surprised Starfield isn't canceled.

Bethesda as a whole is on a downward spiral. They keep releasing flops. iD is only one making good games but I'm not sure they are pulling in the $$$.

Bethesda Game Studios has showed its ass with back to back Fallout games and all indications are Starfield is shaping up to be in development hell. Hype for BGS products is at all time low.

More and more wide open world games. Obsidian is now bank rolled by MS. CDProject keeps pushing the envelope. Rockstar may add some non-linearity to GTA6. Fable is making a big comeback. Kingdom Come 2 and Witcher 4 as others said...

Whats going to be unique about Elder Scrolls in.... jesus 4-5 years from now? Will it be the only game left with load times?
 
Andodalf

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SCB3 said:
Shit that means a new Fallout is gonna be a while away as well
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If we don't see another studio work on it ala New Vegas or 76, It could be 2026 or so at the very earliest. A decade between mainline games. BGS really needs to overhaul their workflow if they want to be the primary studio for 3 franchises
 
GamesAreFun

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Metnut said:
So have a very popular series and don’t release any games in that series for a decade. Great work Bethesda.
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This. It's great that Bethesda are investing in a new IP, but also baffling they haven't capitalised on the huge hit of Skyrim. The size of their studio has stayed relatively small which I guess keeps costs lower, but if they'd expanded perhaps they could work on both projects in parallel.
 
SCB3

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Andodalf said:
If we don't see another studio work on it ala New Vegas or 76, It could be 2026 or so at the very earliest. A decade between mainline games. BGS really needs to overhaul their workflow if they want to be the primary studio for 3 franchises
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I'm guessing 76 is supposed to be the placeholder for now, keep adding onto that
 
TheMan

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They should never have even mentioned it then

But speaking of Starfield, should be we expecting some info this summer?
 
mortal

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Developers really ought to stop announcing their games so fucking early. This what I dislike the most about hype culture.

This ie years out, yet somehow I suspect it'll still be a buggy mess on day one...
 
Andodalf

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SCB3 said:
I'm guessing 76 is supposed to be the placeholder for now, keep adding onto that
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I feel like 76 was more a test of their multiplayer tech and the capability of their satellite studios than something actually intended to tide fans of the IP over. Regardless, We're still looking at 8+ years from 76 to the next fallout title.

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Why even announce it if it’s 5-7+ years out from now.
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Because they kept having people assume the game was imminent as far back as 2017. They had to assure people the game wasn't coming soon, but to do that they felt like they needed to acknowledged it existed. From the very beginning they've been clear that it isn't their current project and is a long way out. It wasn't to generate hype, but to manage the expectations of fans like on this form who kept thinking TES 6 could happen every E3 or VGAs.
 
SpartanN92

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Pete Hines needs to stop getting shitty with people, you guys are the assholes that announced the game 5 years + before launch (making it well over a decade since your PREVIOUS entry in the series by the time it comes out).
 
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AV

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No shit.

At E3 2018, all they had to show on Starfield was a logo, then they told you TES6 was coming after Starfield. If you thought you were getting TES6 before 2022 the joke's on you, honestly. Announcing it that early was retarded, but so was believing it was more than a proof of concept at that point.
 
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Mista said:
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On Sunday Bethesda’s SVP of global marketing, Pete Hines, suggested that fans were unlikely to hear about TES6 until work on Starfield was completed.

Hines tweeted:


In a previous interview, Bethesda Game Studios director Todd Howard said that Starfield would likely occupy the attention of its studios for a period of time.

www.videogameschronicle.com

Bethesda reiterates Elder Scrolls 6 news is likely ‘years away’ | VGC

Starfield is Bethesda Game Studios’ first priority…
www.videogameschronicle.com www.videogameschronicle.com
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Peter HInes has had an old-school approach to PR for long. It developed at a time when Bethesda were King of the hill, so to speak, so he could afford the luxury of saying niceties such as "Haters gonna hate" on air.

Indeed, the era where Bethesda would put out a trailer and everyone would gash about it seems a distant memory now.

Maybe that will cascade into their marketing. Hopefully, the Starfield reveal will prove me right.

But, at least for me, they'll have to do a lot of persuading before I ever consider spending money on their products again. A short teaser two weeks before launch is not going to cut it for me, I'm afraid.

Competition, CD Projekt Red, offers better storytelling, better graphics, better art direction, better dialogue, better bang for buck Expansions and less buggy games. Save for the sandbox aspects, at the moment nothing BGS does is memorable in a satisfying way. I would think it'd be better for them not to act as though everyone is sitting at home waiting impatiently for their next big thing to be teased, with nothing else to play.

Things have changed.
 
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Riven326

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Well no shit. What I want to know is why are they not showing off Starfield? Are the rumors about the game being in development hell because of that goddamn engine they refuse to let die true?
 
TissueBox

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Somnium said:
Developers really ought to stop announcing their games so fucking early. This what I dislike the most about hype culture.

This ie years out, yet somehow I suspect it'll still be a buggy mess on day one...
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Rheon said:
They announced this game way too early.

Anyway, Skyrim has kept me going for 8 years+. What's another 8 more? :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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They didn't want to announce it, but fans have been asking them constantly on Twitter and every social forum ever, 'WHERE IS TESVI?!' nonstop for pretty much 7 years. So after nearly a decade of this, they decided to just respond 'one time' to confirm that yes, it's coming for pete's sake (no pun intended), just in a very, very far off time from now (which is what they'd always been saying ever since around '15, but hey, hooray for a 10-second concept art sneak peek).

They still have Starfield, then after Starfield, one other AAA-sized game. Then after that, The Elder Scrolls VI. It's probably coming out at 2025 at the earliest..!!
 
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Andodalf

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B-universe said:
Peter HInes has had an old-school approach to PR for long. It developed at a time when Bethesda were King of the hill, so to speak, so he could afford the luxury of saying niceties such as "Haters gonna hate" on air.
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True
Indeed, the era where Bethesda would put out a trailer and everyone would gash about it seems a distant memory now.
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People went crazy over the trailer for fallout 4, BGS's last game



Competition, CD Projekt Red, offers better storytelling, better graphics, better art direction, better dialogue, better bang for buck Expansions and less buggy games. Save for the sandbox aspects, at the moment nothing BGS does is memorable in a satisfying way. I would think it'd be better for them not to act as though everyone is sitting at home waiting impatiently for their next big thing to be teased, with nothing else to play.

Things have changed since.
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The sandbox elements are the very thing that makes them unique and memorable. No other game has a world that feels the same. In other RPGs, be it Dragon Age, Outer Worlds, or Witcher, The dude who sells weapons is the weapons guy and stands there till the end of time. He might have a cool story, but in the world, he's static. In BGS's jank engine, that guy has a whole daily routine, which can vary by the day, or even month. He has a place to sleep and can eat at home or go someplace to eat. If he dies, which he can unlike many other games, he will be replaced by his son, or wife. And it's not just the guy selling weapons, it's everyone in the town. Their towns may be smaller, but every NPC (barring guards) has a name, a schedule, and unique dialogue. They have personal thoughts about what's going on in the city and area at large. Add to this the persistence of the world offered by their system of having just about everything in the world being a dynamic physics object instead of static, and their last game from 2015 is still unrivaled. They could drop a trailer any time, and when they say it's from the guys who actually made Skyrim, people get excited.
 
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GreyHorace

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Skyrim is the only game in The Elder Scrolls series that I've played, and I enjoyed it a whole lot. That said, I wouldn't enjoy it if Elder Scrolls 6 was the same buggy mess that Skyrim often was (though I never really encountered much bugs during my playthrough). They'd better use a new engine by the time this releases because I think gamers won't stand for the same old tired excuse that Bethesda games have always been buggy.

And Bethesda's reputation has suffered in recent years because of the mishandling of the Wolfenstein franchise plus the disaster that was Fallout 76. They really have to work hard to regain the trust of gamers in the next gen.
 
Riven326

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Andodalf said:
True


People went crazy over the trailer for fallout 4, BGS's last game





The sandbox elements are the very thing that makes them unique and memorable. No other game has a world that feels the same. In other RPGs, be it Dragon Age, Outer Worlds, or Witcher, The dude who sells weapons is the weapons guy and stands there till the end of time. He might have a cool story, but in the world, he's static. In BGS's jank engine, that guy has a whole daily routine, which can vary by the day, or even month. He has a place to sleep and can eat at home or go someplace to eat. If he dies, which he can unlike many other games, he will be replaced by his son, or wife. And it's not just the guy selling weapons, it's everyone in the town. Their towns may be smaller, but every NPC (barring guards) has a name, a schedule, and unique dialogue. They have personal thoughts about what's going on in the city and area at large. Add to this the persistence of the world offered by their system of having just about everything in the world being a dynamic physics object instead of static, and their last game from 2015 is still unrivaled. They could drop a trailer any time, and when they say it's from the guys who actually made Skyrim, people get excited.
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That's only when the game engine is actually working properly. Seems to me like every new BGS game that's released has more and more engine related issues. That's why I think the rumors regarding Starfield are true.
 
JareBear: Remastered

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Well, I guess I all I can say is I hope it’s worth it when finally play it in 2025. At least it shouldn’t take full advantage of next gen hardware, you would think
 
Riven326

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B-universe said:
Peter HInes has had an old-school approach to PR for long. It developed at a time when Bethesda were King of the hill, so to speak, so he could afford the luxury of saying niceties such as "Haters gonna hate" on air.

Indeed, the era where Bethesda would put out a trailer and everyone would gash about it seems a distant memory now.

Maybe that will cascade into their marketing. Hopefully, the Starfield reveal will prove me right.

But, at least for me, they'll have to do a lot of persuading before I ever consider spending money on their products again. A short teaser two weeks before launch is not going to cut it for me, I'm afraid.

Competition, CD Projekt Red, offers better storytelling, better graphics, better art direction, better dialogue, better bang for buck Expansions and less buggy games. Save for the sandbox aspects, at the moment nothing BGS does is memorable in a satisfying way. I would think it'd be better for them not to act as though everyone is sitting at home waiting impatiently for their next big thing to be teased, with nothing else to play.

Things have changed since.
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Yes. But CDPR are really the only devs out there that are competing with Beth. You could say Obsidian, but their latest game won't be remembered ten years from now like New Vegas.

The Witcher never let you make your own character. I hated playing as monotone Geralt among other things. 2077 looks promising. But again, that game won't allow you to build things and do all the other cool shit you can do in a Beth title. Still... They do murder Beth in just about every other aspect of game design.
 
nowhat

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Andodalf said:
The sandbox elements are the very thing that makes them unique and memorable. No other game has a world that feels the same. In other RPGs, be it Dragon Age, Outer Worlds, or Witcher, The dude who sells weapons is the weapons guy and stands there till the end of time. He might have a cool story, but in the world, he's static. In BGS's jank engine, that guy has a whole daily routine, which can vary by the day, or even month. He has a place to sleep and can eat at home or go someplace to eat. If he dies, which he can unlike many other games, he will be replaced by his son, or wife.
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I remember playing Ultima V, the NPCs have a day/night cycle (and lunch breaks too), and if you kill an NPC, (s)he will not be replaced by another character (even more realistic/sandboxy, innit).

This was in 1988.
 
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