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[Okami Haundo]

The PS5 will require a drive not only up to a technical specification but also a particular size (specific dimensions), we don't know when they will even be available and I would bet my left arm that they cost a good deal more than the XsX drives.

I still don't like that we don't know for sure if it is an actual expansion or if it is a replacement scenario. They would have to have the expansion bay cooled as well as the main internal. These drives can get hot. That is why the XsX cards have a special heatsink.

All valid points! If you want additional storage on day one, it seems like Series X has the best option.

It's not clear yet as to whether there will be Sony-certified drives on the market for PS5 in time for launch. If there are, I'll be interested in seeing the price and how many options are available.

Over time, I think Sony's approach has the most potential to be a better value (in terms of price and options) for consumers. You can't argue with Microsoft's simplicity though. Want more storage? Buy this thing and plug it in.

 

[GlassAwful]

It is the only expensive and proprietary way to ensure CONSISTENT AND SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE.

Vs

Off shelf cheaper, faster and more consumer friendly solutions for PS5.

Your pick .

Yea.... you aren't going to be saying anything about cheaper or consumer friendly when you see the price tags on these yet to be released fastest available SDDs that also tick a number of other requirements to be compatible.

Maybe in 2023-2024.

I'm guessing these proprietary 1TB xbox drives will be somewhere around $200 at launch, and decreasing slightly over time.

Meanwhile, the pricetag on the PS5 drives you'll need will make your eyes bleed for the next couple years. They'll probably debut at $350+ and I'm being generous. You'll see Sony dodging questions about this leading up to release. "We're still working with industry partners to identify potential candidate drives..."

 

[IntentionalPun]

I still don't like that we don't know for sure if it is an actual expansion or if it is a replacement scenario. T

Seems pretty clear it's expansion; there's even info out there about how the expansion slot doesn't have the same access to "priority lanes" the main drive does.

 

[Hendrick's]

It is the only expensive and proprietary way to ensure CONSISTENT AND SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE.

Vs

Off shelf cheaper, faster and more consumer friendly solutions for PS5.

Your pick .

You actually can't know that. They could likely be more expensive and less convenient.

 

[Bernkastel]

There are many companies making accessories for Xbox One, no one is asked to pay licensing fee. The PDP Talon Xbox Media remote(which Microsoft now advertises themselves, since its better) was cheaper then the official Xbox One media remote.

The case about PDP Talon Media remote made one thing clear to me. Microsoft has stopped manufacturing the official Xbox One Media remote and is advertising the PDP Talon Media remote instead. They are willing to work with 3rd party companies like Seagate to make accessories cheaper.

 

[ZywyPL]

The PS5 will require a drive not only up to a technical specification but also a particular size (specific dimensions), we don't know when they will even be available and I would bet my left arm that they cost a good deal more than the XsX drives.

I still don't like that we don't know for sure if it is an actual expansion or if it is a replacement scenario. They would have to have the expansion bay cooled as well as the main internal. These drives can get hot. That is why the XsX cards have a special heatsink.

But truth be told, the only dimension that's differs between SSDs is the height, length and width is always constant, that's the part that's standardized, so all Sony needs to do is to leave as much space as possible above the PCB level and that's it.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

In summary, an open standard for storage solutions is only beneficial to the consumer if the options exist. When the options exist their prices will be incredibly high because the production runs will be incredibly small and the storage providers will add their "high-end" premium to these drives. These SSD manufacturers are not expecting to sell millions of these drives at these prices any time soon. This isn't like the old days where the proprietary storage had significant premiums over the existing cheaper tech. Sony's SD cards were not high end SD cards they were boilerplate ones that had existed for years.

While there are negatives to proprietary storage in this situation it makes sense because the tech is still so expensive. By making it proprietary, you are able to agree to the number of drives to be made and require the market exist. By leaving it to the open market, you are entirely reliant on the product existing and the pricing being attractive. Why would the SSD manufacturers do anything different than what they have historically done and sell these drives at what the market will bear? The only reason they would bring down these prices is because they have a contract with someone like MS/Sony to make a set amount for $X price.

But you're making a different argument. So far here we've discussed the benefits of allowing users to get off the shelf components vs putting a plastic tab on the interface to prevent user upgrades to force the user into propietary products that have historically cost more than off the shelf components. If both Sony and Microsoft had chosen the current normal, aka pci 3.0 ssd's like the evo's would you still argue that a propietary interface gating out user upgrades is better? I would hope your answer would be no.

Meanwhile, you're talking about the differences in availability of bleeding ede products vs easily available products and mixing both of those arguments together. So you argue that because sony's product is too advanced to be readily available propietary is better. No sir, in that situation propietary is the only solution possible. Which is a different situation altogether.

But, I will tell you that it is in fact a proper argument to be brought up. Sony's choice of SSD means off the shelf components will be scarce early on. Sony is taking a bet here: and that is true. Given that the ps5 is going to last what... 7 years? I believe it's a reasonable expectation that it will be a couple years from launch until these expansion ssds are readily available at cheap-ish prices. The SSD market has proven to be furiously competitive and given that the structure of the market isn't changing for the pci 4.0 rollout, it's a safe bet that will remain so.

But again, while that's a consideration for next-gen if you're a serious game hoarder, that's not a propietary vs off the shelf discussion. That's just the nature of shipping bleeding edge storage on your device.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Answer the question please. PS5 is not out there, but will be soon,

Uh, nice then I'll do that too! these drives are not out there but will be soon you're a fanboy, but a funny fanboy!

 

[Neo Blaster]

I think the only way these portable drives could be cheap is that part of their components are offloaded to XSX, like the controller, so they are just more storage chips that integrate to the internal SSD by the external port.

 

[ZywyPL]

I think the only way these portable drives could be cheap is that part of their components are offloaded to XSX, like the controller, so they are just more storage chips that integrate to the internal SSD by the external port.

I think that's exactly the case with XBX, all the logics are withing the APU, whereas the drives, whether internal or external contain only the memory cells. At least that's how it looks like on their presentations.

Uh, nice then I'll do that too! these drives are not out there but will be soon you're a fanboy, but a funny fanboy!

Then list the ones with the closest read speeds.

 

[marquimvfs]

I believe the portable form factor Series X uses, is not proprietary. It is part of nvme specs.

That would be very nice, it's the same thing I'm hoping for.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

All we really need to know is the price. Everything else was already known.

I am gonna hope for 150 bucks. I would expect PS5 compatible HDs to be considerably more expensive, just due to their advanced nature,

If the XsX Storage Expansion costs more than 150 for 1TB, that will be a little much imo.

Should be around that ballpark. WD blues are similar in specs to the quoted xbox drive and right now 1tb costs 140 bucks on newegg.

 

[Aceofspades]

Please list us some of those "cheaper" PS5 compatible M.2 drives. I will ignore the fact that XBX Expansion Card doesn't have any price yet. Thanks in advance.

PCie 5 is approaching sooner than you think , and with PS5 launch, whole gaming market will shift toward SSDs driving the prices down faster.

With Sony going off shelf standard part* it will ensure ample supply and cheaper prices vs limited quantity proprietary that will remain expensive for majority of the gen.

Its the law of supply and demand and Sony is the driving force for the entire industry, they have done it multiple times before with CD, DVD and BD adoption .

That's what's an innovator does, unlike MS who opted for Slow SSD that's barely saturating PCIE 3.0 vs Sony.

All gaming rigs will require fast SSD going forward... that will drive nvme prices down really fast, you can't say the same for MS because their drive will be proprietary and made in limited quantities.

That's economics 101 .

 

[ZywyPL]

PCie 5 is approaching sooner than you think , and with PS5 launch, whole gaming market will shift toward SSDs driving the prices down faster.

With Sony going off shelf standard part* it will ensure ample supply and cheaper prices vs limited quantity proprietary that will remain expensive for majority of the gen.

Its the law of supply and demand and Sony is the driving force for the entire industry, they have done it multiple times before with CD, DVD and BD adoption .

That's what's an innovator does, unlike MS who opted for Slow SSD that's barely saturating PCIE 3.0 vs Sony.

All gaming rigs will require fast SSD going forward... that will drive nvme prices down really fast, you can't say the same for MS because their drive will be proprietary and made in limited quantities.

That's economics 101 .

But XBX also offers SSD that's already faster than storage drives in 99.99% of PCs, no?

 

[Jigsaah]

May want to look to the xbox 360 for some advice on pricing. That system also had proprietary storage solutions. I wanna say those HDDs were 100 bucks. So I'm think these will be between $129 and $149, given it's an SSD and much larger storage.

Just an educated guess though.

 

[DaGwaphics]

150m PSVs sold would be a blip on the SSD radar. LOL, consoles are a niche market in comparison to the PC/Laptop and Server markets. When you factor in the reality that most users will probably stick with the built in storage or augment that with cold storage via usb, and things look worse.

 

[Virex]

Has this been confirmed by Hellpoint Dev?

 

[Neo Blaster]

PCie 5 is approaching sooner than you think , and with PS5 launch, whole gaming market will shift toward SSDs driving the prices down faster.

With Sony going off shelf standard part* it will ensure ample supply and cheaper prices vs limited quantity proprietary that will remain expensive for majority of the gen.

Its the law of supply and demand and Sony is the driving force for the entire industry, they have done it multiple times before with CD, DVD and BD adoption .

That's what's an innovator does, unlike MS who opted for Slow SSD that's barely saturating PCIE 3.0 vs Sony.

All gaming rigs will require fast SSD going forward... that will drive nvme prices down really fast, you can't say the same for MS because their drive will be proprietary and made in limited quantities.

That's economics 101 .

I forgot about this point, next gen will force PC gamers to adopt SSDs faster cause devs will begin making them mandatory, or there will be a big gap for game design between consoles and PCs. Depending on how many consoles Sony sell from launch, manufacturers may start to tap on the new market of PS5 certified drives.

 

[Tripolygon]

Branded and or proprietary storage serve nothing but a price gouge.

Prime example Nintendo switch. Even though it uses same standard micro SD cards, the Nintendo branded ones are more expensive even though they offer the same perormance.

It would be even more expensive if was proprietary storage like the PS Vita and for example the Huawei nona SD.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

150m PSVs sold would be a blip on the SSD radar. LOL, consoles are a niche market in comparison to the PC/Laptop and Server markets. When you factor in the reality that most users will probably stick with the built in storage or augment that with cold storage via usb, and things look worse.

Big time! The SSD market is around 20 billion a year.

 

[Bernkastel]

PCie 5 is approaching sooner than you think , and with PS5 launch, whole gaming market will shift toward SSDs driving the prices down faster.

With Sony going off shelf standard part* it will ensure ample supply and cheaper prices vs limited quantity proprietary that will remain expensive for majority of the gen.

Its the law of supply and demand and Sony is the driving force for the entire industry, they have done it multiple times before with CD, DVD and BD adoption .

That's what's an innovator does, unlike MS who opted for Slow SSD that's barely saturating PCIE 3.0 vs Sony.

All gaming rigs will require fast SSD going forward... that will drive nvme prices down really fast, you can't say the same for MS because their drive will be proprietary and made in limited quantities.

That's economics 101 .

PCie 5 is approaching sooner than you think , and with PS5 launch, whole gaming market will shift toward SSDs driving the prices down faster.

Shifting to Sony certified 7 GB/s SSDs is like a market shifting to 128 GB RAM. They will never get as cheap you think they will get. How many people replaced their PS4 SSDs ? The market is small.

With Sony going off shelf standard part* it will ensure ample supply and cheaper prices vs limited quantity proprietary that will remain expensive for majority of the gen.

You forgot one important part. The Series X expansion card contains the same exact internal drive as the Series X which will be mass produced and present in all XSX models. As, the parts to manufacture XSX get cheaper(including the internal drive), then so will the expansion card. Another factor is Seagate themselves. I have already explained the case about PDP Talon media remote

There are many companies making accessories for Xbox One, no one is asked to pay licensing fee. The PDP Talon Xbox Media remote(which Microsoft now advertises themselves, since its better) was cheaper then the official Xbox One media remote.

The case about PDP Talon Media remote made one thing clear to me. Microsoft has stopped manufacturing the official Xbox One Media remote and is advertising the PDP Talon Media remote instead. They are willing to work with 3rd party companies like Seagate to make accessories cheaper.

So, unlike the Xbox 360 HDD and PS Vita memory cards, this is manufactured by 3rd party.

Its the law of supply and demand and Sony is the driving force for the entire industry, they have done it multiple times before with CD, DVD and BD adoption .

CD,DVD and BD were part of PS1/PS2/PS3 consoles. These expensive certified NVMe drives only carter to a small subset of PS5 userbase. Most will just store their games on an external HDD. Microsoft on the other hand made their expansion cards way more accessible.

That's what's an innovator does, unlike MS who opted for Slow SSD that's barely saturating PCIE 3.0 vs Sony.

There is nothing innovating about putting a m.2. slot. Also, XSX uses PCIe 4.0 and is not slow but faster than most SSDs used in PC. The expansion card is the innovation, since I can store my games in a portabe format and bring it and even use it on a friends Xbox.

All gaming rigs will require fast SSD going forward... that will drive nvme prices down really fast, you can't say the same for MS because their drive will be proprietary and made in limited quantities.

That's economics 101 .

SSDs are already common in most gaming rigs. But they will never shift to Sony certifies 7 GB/s NVMe drives. Only, mass adoption of those NVMe drives will help PS5, and that will never happen(maybe a decade later).

 

[SoloKingRobert]

It is the only expensive and proprietary way to ensure CONSISTENT AND SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE.

Vs

Off shelf cheaper, faster and more consumer friendly solutions for PS5.

Your pick .

Are you from the future? PS5 solution is going to be expensive for casual consumers.

Microsoft solution is like a memory card, take the card to a friend's house and play the games.

 

[CatLady]

I doubt that.
Both companys will push nvme usage, However Sonys userbase is at least twice compared to ms. nvme massproduction (for end-user) might make them cheaper or more costly depending on general supply and demand.

However MS technology with those cards and the slot has me intrigued.
I would like that to be incorperated into pc mainboards. That would make upgrading/swapping storage so comfy for everyone.

On the PS4.

The user base for the XsX and PS5 (the console that will need these super fast SSDs) is exactly the same at zero, zip, nada 0 and not likely to be anywhere near 100M or even 40M at launch. Additionally as Cerny said there are currently NO SSDs certified for use in the PS5.

There is a solution available at launch for the XsX, a simple, convenient and elegant solution that is possibly more expensive than the PS5. the XsX SSD will definitely be more expensive if the PS5 still doesn't have a certified SSD at launch since the cost for the PS5 would be $0 dollars for 0 expansion.

 

[Bernkastel]

On the PS4.

The user base for the XsX and PS5 (the console that will need these super fast SSDs) is exactly the same at zero, zip, nada 0 and not likely to be anywhere near 100M or even 40M at launch. Additionally as Cerny said there are currently NO SSDs certified for use in the PS5.

There is a solution available at launch for the XsX, a simple, convenient and elegant solution that is possibly more expensive than the PS5. the XsX SSD will definitely be more expensive if the PS5 still doesn't have a certified SSD at launch since the cost for the PS5 would be $0 dollars for 0 expansion.

Also, PS5 userbase wont translate to userbase who want to upgrade the internal NVMe and replace it. Its not convenient for a lot of people.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I completely understand why “proprietary” is a bad word in gaming and raises eyebrows with gamers but this is one case where I appreciate that approach.

Given how vital the SSDs are to these systems, and how overpriced SSDs can be in general, a consistently priced (assuming it’s a reasonable price) and compatibility assured XsX drive makes me feel a little better than uncertainty around PS5 compatible drives (price wise, availability wise, dimension wise, spec wise).

Neither will be cheap, but I firmly believe that just due to their different natures, the XsX drives will always cost less than PS5 compatible drives.

My personal plan is to use a 2TB SATA SSD as my PS5 external (via USB) for BC games and quick swapping PS5 games. I’ll have the XsX expansion card day one as well. If they offer larger ones down the road I’ll upgrade again

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

The Xbox Series X Storage Expansion card had a brief moment in the spotlight during the latest Inside Xbox stream. Microsoft showed off the card in real life and offered more insight into how it will let you store more games without sacrificing performance.

This memory card stores a terabyte worth of game data, not just a few megabytes of save files. As Xbox Series X director of program management Jason Ronald explained, it also matches up with the speed offered by Xbox Series X's internal storage "exactly".

"But at the same time, we know plenty of people have existing USB hard drives. And we want to make it as easy as possible, so you can easily just take the existing external hard drive that you have, unplug it from your current console, plug it into your Xbox Series X, and all your games are instantly available to you. And you can continue to run all those games directly off that external drive. So once again, we're really focused on giving as many options as possible because we know storage is critically important for gamers who have plenty of games they love playing."

"Built in partnership with Seagate, this 1TB custom storage solution expands storage capacity of Xbox Series X with the full speed and performance of the Xbox Velocity Architecture. Previous-generation Xbox titles can still be played directly from external USB 3.2 hard drives. However, to receive all the benefits of the Xbox Velocity Architecture and optimal performance, Xbox Series X optimized games should be played from the internal SSD or Xbox Series X Storage Expansion Card."

Price was not revealed.

Source: https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/the-x...card-but-it-is-a-highly-refined-external-ssd/

What would be interesting is if they allowed you to configure the drives into a RAID 0 configuration when you put in the expansion storage to speed up load speeds even further. I know the games would still be designed with the 2.4GB/s raw / 4.8GB/s compressed speeds, but the loading and switching of games would severely improve if they did this.

 

[marquimvfs]

What would be interesting is if they allowed you to configure the drives into a RAID 0 configuration when you put in the expansion storage to speed up load speeds even further. I know the games would still be designed with the 2.4GB/s raw / 4.8GB/s compressed speeds, but the loading and switching of games would severely improve if they did this.

I think that's impractical in the context. That wouldn't allow you to keep the system working if the external storage fails, neither allow you to carry your data to other console. Thats the nature of external. Not to point the increased cost that a raid controller would represent to the console.

 

[rofif]

We need to see how big the games will be. 1tb is plenty enough for me with current games

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

I completely understand why “proprietary” is a bad word in gaming and raises eyebrows with gamers but this is one case where I appreciate that approach.

Given how vital the SSDs are to these systems, and how overpriced SSDs can be in general, a consistently priced (assuming it’s a reasonable price) and compatibility assured XsX drive makes me feel a little better than uncertainty around PS5 compatible drives (price wise, availability wise, dimension wise, spec wise).

Neither will be cheap, but I firmly believe that just due to their different natures, the XsX drives will always cost less than PS5 compatible drives.

My personal plan is to use a 2TB SATA SSD as my PS5 external (via USB) for BC games and quick swapping PS5 games. I’ll have the XsX expansion card day one as well. If they offer larger ones down the road I’ll upgrade again

Proprietary is good for the fact you know was specifically designed for its intended purpose, but with that usually comes at that higher cost, which honest I am ok with paying a little more for proprietary as long as they don't rake people over the coals, but what blows is when these systems age and newer systems come out you will no longer be able to find new proprietary drives which will suck so once the drives finally die that is it for the life of that console even though all the other hardware would probably still be working fine.

 

[marquimvfs]

We need to see how big the games will be. 1tb is plenty enough for me with current games

Lets hope that, with faster storage and increased cpu power available, devs want to work again with compression methods.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

I think that's impractical in the context. That wouldn't allow you to keep the system working if the external storage fails, neither allow you to carry your data to other console. Thats the nature of external. Not to point the increased cost that a raid controller would represent to the console.

True, it was just a thought though, if it were an option I bet some people would choose to do that for the speed benefit! I just hope both Microsoft and Sony allow for soft uninstalling of their next gen games to physical hard drives so I don't have to re-download a game that I might have decided to uninstall for a short time, just using the drive as a place to storage the game data until the user is ready to re-install it back onto the SSD.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Proprietary is good for the fact you know was specifically designed for its intended purpose, but with that usually comes at that higher cost, which honest I am ok with paying a little more for proprietary as long as they don't rake people over the coals, but what blows is when these systems age and newer systems come out you will no longer be able to find new proprietary drives which will suck so once the drives finally die that is it for the life of that console even though all the other hardware would probably still be working fine.

That's one feature I like on the PS3/PS4, the ability to change the primary drive, looks like both of these new systems are not built with user-replaceable primary drives. When these drives go it's all she wrote, unless you can send it in or find some kind of replacement.

 

[Bernkastel]

Proprietary is good for the fact you know was specifically designed for its intended purpose, but with that usually comes at that higher cost, which honest I am ok with paying a little more for proprietary as long as they don't rake people over the coals, but what blows is when these systems age and newer systems come out you will no longer be able to find new proprietary drives which will suck so once the drives finally die that is it for the life of that console even though all the other hardware would probably still be working fine.

If you consider how accessories are being treated in Xbox One - Series X generation transition, you will able to use next gen expansion cards on Series X.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

That's one feature I like on the PS3/PS4, the ability to change the primary drive, looks like both of these new systems are not built with user-replaceable primary drives. When these drives go it's all she wrote, unless you can send it in or find some kind of replacement.

Hopefully neither of them are soldered onto the mainboard (I don't think the XSX one is) that way worst case scenario you can pop open the console and replace the proprietary internal drives on both systems. Fingers crossed...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just checked at Amazon, a 360 500GB disk cost the same as a 1TB hdd.

Their proprietary 20GB HDD at launch was $100 as well when all other comparable drives at the time were $50 tops. When they launched the 120GB one for $130, you could get a 1TB drive for that price, and comparable sizes for $30-50.

 

[Aceofspades]

But XBX also offers SSD that's already faster than storage drives in 99.99% of PCs, no?

It won't be even midrange come 2021, technology advances fast.

 

[LittleBusters]

I wish they would have gone with someone other than Seagate, they don't have the most dependable products...

Wish it had been Samsung, they make the best SSDs.

 

[hunthunt]

I wonder if they are gonna go scam mode like with the ridiculous Xbox 360 hard drive encased in that plastic piece of shit which was twice the price of the same hard drive formatted for pc.

 

[Okami Haundo]

It won't be even midrange come 2021, technology advances fast.

Real talk though... There is a difference between what technology is available, and what's in the majority of machines.

PC is a great platform because of how much you can customize your hardware, but I have to wonder what the "average" spec is for most PC gamers. Do we really think that a majority are going to upgrade to the latest M.2 drives?

 

[LittleBusters]

Bwahahaha.

I get it, we're in prime console warzz season and whatnot but rofl...

option a) Propietary Microsoft Drive: you are the mercy of microsoft who are free to price the storage as they will enabling them to implement storage tiered sales strategy as apple does. History shows propietary interfaces on standard components have always resulted in price gouging.

option b) Standard nvme interface on the PS5: Sony releases a list of compatible SSDS. You go to the market and find the cheapest drive from their list. Because these drives use an industry standard interface, you'll find vendors competing for price in the market. History shows that the absence of propietary storage ensures the largest availability and the lowest price since the user benefits from market forces.

And somehow, in a fit of fanboy logic you conclude that option a is the best one for the consumer.

Proprietary interfaces also result in best-in-class performance. For years, Macs had Thunderbolt 3 ports while PCs struggled by with USB 3.0. That alone helped sell many millions of Macs.

 

[Bernkastel]

Proprietary interfaces also result in best-in-class performance. For years, Macs had Thunderbolt 3 ports while PCs struggled by with USB 3.0. That alone helped sell many millions of Macs.

You mean Lightning ? Thunderbolt is not proprietary.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Perhaps Sony can extend the m2 slot out the back. Then the ssd manufactures can put giant heat sinks on if needed, and the stick would snap down rather than screw down to the back of the console. Easy removal for portability similar to series x.

The thing about vita cards that rubbed me wrong was they topped out at 128 meg if memory served. No bigger.
Hopefully microsoft will eventually release larger and larger drives.

 

[Steve.1981]

I think these cards are going to be extortionate.

I'll be holding out for as long as possible before buying any external storage of any kind for the next gen consoles. Hopefully within a couple of years simple to use, affordable third party options, like those we have now, will be available.

 

[Bernkastel]

I think these cards are going to be extortionate.

I'll be holding out for as long as possible before buying any external storage of any kind for the next gen consoles. Hopefully within a couple of years simple to use, affordable third party options, like those we have now, will be available.

This expansion is third party though. Its made by Seagate.

 

[OmaeWaMouShindiggity]

So....if you want the best gaming experience...play off the internal drive?

If you are willing to sacrifice some efficiency and tech (prolly loading times) play off the usb drive?

 

[Bernkastel]

So....if you want the best gaming experience...play off the internal drive?

If you are willing to sacrifice some efficiency and tech (prolly loading times) play off the usb drive?

Did you even read the OP ???

 

[CatLady]

I think these cards are going to be extortionate.

I'll be holding out for as long as possible before buying any external storage of any kind for the next gen consoles. Hopefully within a couple of years simple to use, affordable third party options, like those we have now, will be available.

I have fast internet with no data caps and I usually only play one game at a time so I'll probably get by with deleting a game after finishing and only need 1 TB for a while too. Like you by the time I need more the prices will come down since I have little doubt the drives on either console will be expensive at launch.

 

[Okami Haundo]

I completely forgot that Microsoft was a bit cheeky in the wording for their partnership with Seagate. Saying that they're the exclusive partner "at launch". Seems to suggest they're open to other manufacturers making expansion cards down the line.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

The Xbox Series X Storage Expansion card had a brief moment in the spotlight during the latest Inside Xbox stream. Microsoft showed off the card in real life and offered more insight into how it will let you store more games without sacrificing performance.

This memory card stores a terabyte worth of game data, not just a few megabytes of save files. As Xbox Series X director of program management Jason Ronald explained, it also matches up with the speed offered by Xbox Series X's internal storage "exactly".

"But at the same time, we know plenty of people have existing USB hard drives. And we want to make it as easy as possible, so you can easily just take the existing external hard drive that you have, unplug it from your current console, plug it into your Xbox Series X, and all your games are instantly available to you. And you can continue to run all those games directly off that external drive. So once again, we're really focused on giving as many options as possible because we know storage is critically important for gamers who have plenty of games they love playing."

"Built in partnership with Seagate, this 1TB custom storage solution expands storage capacity of Xbox Series X with the full speed and performance of the Xbox Velocity Architecture. Previous-generation Xbox titles can still be played directly from external USB 3.2 hard drives. However, to receive all the benefits of the Xbox Velocity Architecture and optimal performance, Xbox Series X optimized games should be played from the internal SSD or Xbox Series X Storage Expansion Card."

Price was not revealed.

Source: https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/the-x...card-but-it-is-a-highly-refined-external-ssd/

Sounds like a big confusing mess to the average consumer.. GL XB.

I guess $99-129 but 1TB is nowhere near enough storage....

 

[Okami Haundo]

Sounds like a big confusing mess to the average consumer.. GL XB.

I guess $99-129 but 1TB is nowhere near enough storage....

What's so confusing?