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Microsoft confirms 12 TF RDNA 2 for the Xbox Series X

93xfan

Banned
I heard that for the last ten years. I'm a bit more skeptical.

It’s fair to be skeptical. I personally am happy to have the entire Halo and Forza/Horizon series as well as upcoming entries. Combine that with Ori and Gears and I’m a pretty happy camper.

Then there’s the BC, that lets me have some of my all time favorite games;

Beyond Good & Evil
Perfect Dark
Oblivion
Metal Gear Solid 3
Soul Calibur 2
SSX 3
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy

I get Sony has awesome games that shouldn’t be missed. Uncharted 4 was one of my favorite experiences of this gen. And I really loved Ratchet and Clank.

But at the end of the day, I don’t think people can go wrong with either console.
 
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HolyTruth

Banned
Unless your playing online, the PS is 110% flawless. The difference between Xbox and PS OS and features is that PS always works. Xbox has always been a finicky piece of shit just like Windows. PS does not have this issue. I have owned both for 2 generations and the PS since PS1 so I know.

what the fuck are you Talking about?
Sony can’t even get savegames right, which is one of the MOST IMPORTANT things, I don’t give a shit about resume if SAVEGAMES don’t work.
I would throw my ps out of the window if my 300+ hours savegames of FF XV is lost due to a fucking PlayStation BUG:




and what about the clusterfuck of Storage: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ps4s-memory-storage-issues-are-unacceptable.1401582/


Having to delete stuff although space is available
 
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Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Obviously they're NOT 6 or 7 games. If Mr Metacritic wants to go by scores, Outer Worlds and Gears 5 outscored Sony's Death Stranding & Days Gone (which is a game that DID score 6s & 7s at 71). but they're Xbox games so of course they can't be good :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Both Forza MS and Horizon ARE huge and outscore and outclass everything else in racing, but like Sony and Nintendo games they aren't my taste so I won't be playing them either which is why I didn't include them.

I did forget about the Initiative game, but we know nothing about it yet, and there's also Grounded from Obsidian and I'm probably still forgetting some games we know about and there are probably a bunch we don't know about yet. I think next gen the Sony fanboys are going to need to find a new song because I don't think "Xbox has no games" is going to work for them anymore.
Im going on record to say, I can guarantee they won't be able to use the ol "Xbox has no games" mantra come next gen. B'lee dat!
 

Zoro7

Banned
FH3 - 91 meta
FM6 - 87 meta
FM7 - 86 meta
FH4 - 92 meta
Gears 4 and 5 - 84 meta
Halo 5 - 84 meta
Ori - 89 meta
Sunset Overdrive - 81 meta

Sony has 0 new games sitting at 95 and above meta FYI.

Well this is embarrassing but Last of us remastered is at 95......ooooooof.
 
Zoro7 Zoro7 last gen Microsoft exclusives were low budget. Somehow they did manage 45 million console box sales right. Stop with your fanboyism.

If you have enough money, you can make exclusives way better than what naughty dog does. If this console war is like xbox 360 and ps3 era, then assume that microsoft will match sony in exclusives.

Xbox is also capturing mobile gaming market and targetting new demographics. IMO Xbox will beat sony gaming divison in revenues and profitability very soon.
 
If a gamer can buy a cheap gamepass and play cyberpunk, assasins creed, gta - 6, rdr - 3 etc/. Xbox can use the money to subsidize gamepass rather than outright go and make exclusives. Let the industry figure out what gamers need. Exclusives led console sales is not the only way ! Zoro7 Zoro7
 

HolyTruth

Banned
Well this is embarrassing but Last of us remastered is at 95......ooooooof.

LOL. A PS3 game 😂👍
A game that is so damn overrated. It only got the score because of the STORY and not gameplay. Because the gameplay is horrible. Anyway. Let’s get back to topic.
 
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Kagey K

Banned
Well this is embarrassing but Last of us remastered is at 95......ooooooof.
So all Sony has to do is resell their highest rated games from this gen again to next gen buyers and everything will be good again. Top rated PS5 game TLOU remastered: The Definitive Remaster.

Profit.
 
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I will say this, again on this thread PS5 is most likely a 100$ cheaper, 9tf machine. Playstation fans should be happy about the competition that xbox is gonna bring in terms of consoles' vfm and exclusives.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Take a deep breath and let this sink in:

12 TERAFLOPS RDNA 2

Exhale.

MS going around on Twitter bragging about this number. They absolutely know they got the power crown in the bag.
I think too many got sucked into the MS is going after services and the console is an afterthought line of thinking that some people tried to spread around here. They weren’t ready to see MS go in deep on the specs for the next Xbox.

It’s a bit of shock and awe, and now they are hoping Sony went balls deep enough to match it.

Using Dev kit specs has always been a fools errand and it seems so far, they have been throwing out more decoys, so I hope when Sony does announce they are straight forward about it and all these arguments can be put to rest.
 

sinnergy

Member
I will say this, again on this thread PS5 is most likely a 100$ cheaper, 9tf machine. Playstation fans should be happy about the competition that xbox is gonna bring in terms of consoles' vfm and exclusives.
Yes, like I said yesterday , awesome machine for that price, could still be market leader. Which imo they will be.

Only not the best for the hardcore which post online on forums.
 
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Kagey K Kagey K the specs of the console and the way xbox is headed is not related at all. They desgin consoles for a specific price segment. Sony can build a 1000$ console, not many would buy it.

Xbox at the end of the day has to report more profits to its daddy. Be it consoles or game sales or streaming.

S sinnergy I do not diagree with your statement.
 
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Kagey K

Banned
Kagey K Kagey K the specs of the console and the way xbox is headed is not related at all. They desgin consoles for a specific price segment. Sony can build a 1000$ console, not many would buy it.

Xbox at the end of the day has to report more profits to its daddy. Be it consoles or game sales or streaming.

I never said otherwise..... Not sure what you are saying or implying here.
 
If gaming industry was to be controlled by exclusives, you would have copycat versions of GoW, HZD made the very next day. Just like there is one for Breath of wild.
 

Zoro7

Banned
LOL. A PS3 game 😂👍
A game that is so damn overrated. It only got the score because of the STORY and not gameplay. Because the gameplay is horrible. Anyway. Let’s get back to topic.
I don’t think PS4 is backwards compatible with PS3. I proved a point. Regardless of what you think of the game.
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
That's a nice surprise for sure, didn't think MS was going to pull it off. Flight Simulator 2020 is going to look and run great on this machine.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
These system specs look great on paper, but we can all agree the games are more important than all other factors combined, right?
The biggest selling games are always the multplatform games and the most powerful console will sell more of them, simple as that. Yes exclusives are amazing on both systems but there was a reason the PS4 sold so well
 

Shin

Banned
12 TERAFLOPS RDNA 2
power crown

That might be their main focus as X is also centered around power (slogan: feel true power).
I love it honestly because we've done the catering to the mass since the beginning of console gaming (except fat PS3).

I'm curious about the gaming division's cashflow, they seem to have a hand in a lot of things, xCloud, GamePass, Live and all that.
Even if the same service it's available on more than 1 platform/device (in the case of Live), surely they get money from that also.
Despite losing the generation in terms of sales vs. X360, they seem mighty healthy if not rich, if it goes back into studio acquisition then more power to them.
 
Well this is embarrassing but Last of us remastered is at 95......ooooooof.
PS3 game 🤭
 

HolyTruth

Banned
Yes, like I said yesterday , awesome machine for that price, could still be market leader. Which imo they will be.

Only not the best for the hardcore which post online on forums.

Ok let’s say:

series X $499 beast. FULL RDNA 2.0, Best performance. Best looking and running Multiplatform titles. Xbox winning ALL DF threads and word of mouth: best graphics and performance? Get Xbox!


PS5 $399 RDNA 1.0 only with a few features of RDNA 2.0. looks way worse than series X


Boom out of nowhere:
Series S $299 *mic drop* same performance as PS5 with full RDNA 2


Microsoft: cheapest console with same performance as PS5 for people that don’t have much money. AND best performance for hardcore gamers, more expensive than Sony, but still best performance giving hardcore (very vocal gamers) what they want!

$200 difference between the two SKUs. One low-end and one HIGH END PREMIUM price SKU. No way that people get confused. No way.

Win-win for Microsoft.
 
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HolyTruth

Banned
I don’t think PS4 is backwards compatible with PS3. I proved a point. Regardless of what you think of the game.

It just shows how anti customer Sony is and how they like to rip off their customers. That’s what you have proven.

With Xbox you will get the Xbox one Version of the game FOR FREE on series X if you bought it.

Even back then with BC you will get A LOT of games for free without paying again.
 
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Ive finally realized what the XSX reminds me of:

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psst, those are MAGA hats.
 
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phil_t98

#SonyToo
That might be their main focus as X is also centered around power (slogan: feel true power).
I love it honestly because we've done the catering to the mass since the beginning of console gaming (except fat PS3).

I'm curious about the gaming division's cashflow, they seem to have a hand in a lot of things, xCloud, GamePass, Live and all that.
Even if the same service it's available on more than 1 platform/device (in the case of Live), surely they get money from that also.
Despite losing the generation in terms of sales vs. X360, they seem mighty healthy if not rich, if it goes back into studio acquisition then more power to them.
You have to look at things like gamepass and xboxlive where they have a steady cash flow coming in. The console sold well despite what people tell you, 50 million is nothing to be sniffed at, also people still playing on the 360 with Xbox live so there is money off that even if they don’t have an Xbox one.

Don’t forget as well even though the PS4 has sold mega numbers Sony as a company are not mega rich, a few years ago they were struggling and the PS4 helped with the cash flow. Both company’s are well off but just because the PS4 sold mega numbers doesn’t mean the company has mega money to spend off that
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
It just shows how anti customer Sony is and how they like to rip off their customers. That’s what you have proven.

With Xbox you will get the Xbox one Version of the game FOR FREE on series X if you bought it.

Even back then with BC you will get A LOT of games for free without paying again.
I wouldn’t call Sony anti consumer tbh, but when Microsoft does something good it gets called out here a lot. Example with gamepass, people talk how it’s bad for the industry and what not when it’s god for gamers.

Sony has there way of doing things and while it may be different to Microsoft I wouldn’t say it’s anticonsumer
 

GymWolf

Member
These system specs look great on paper, but we can all agree the games are more important than all other factors combined, right?
Of course, but 99% of games are multyplatform, so knowing that one console can run this games with 12tf under his ass is still a big thing.

I'm aware that nd, guerrila etc are gonna challenge microsoft first party graphics even with 9 tf because they are magicians, but most of games today are multy, so power does matter for hardcore gamers.
 

Mista

Banned
Of course, but 99% of games are multyplatform, so knowing that one console can run this games with 12tf under his ass is still a big thing.

I'm aware that nd, guerrila etc are gonna challenge microsoft first party graphics even with 9 tf because they are magicians, but most of games today are multy, so power does matter for hardcore gamers.
Well said brother
 

darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
Can we please keep the console wars out of this thread? There's others for that.
Of course, but 99% of games are multyplatform, so knowing that one console can run this games with 12tf under his ass is still a big thing.

I'm aware that nd, guerrila etc are gonna challenge microsoft first party graphics even with 9 tf because they are magicians, but most of games today are multy, so power does matter for hardcore gamers.
Exactly. I doubt even with 12 TF most games next gen will look better than Gears 5 on an Xbox One X today. But having that power sure makes it a lot easier for them to get there and ensures to not have to accept sub native resolutions or fps issues. This is a machine built to play the best looking and performing version of multiplatform titles like CoD, GTA, Elder Scrolls. First party games will follow (simply because it is cheaper for Microsoft to fill Game Pass with first party content than with third party content), but they aren't the reason why this machine exists.
 

GymWolf

Member
Can we please keep the console wars out of this thread? There's others for that.

Exactly. I doubt even with 12 TF most games next gen will look better than Gears 5 on an Xbox One X today. But having that power sure makes it a lot easier for them to get there and ensures to not have to accept sub native resolutions or fps issues. This is a machine built to play the best looking and performing version of multiplatform titles like CoD, GTA, Elder Scrolls. First party games will follow (simply because it is cheaper for Microsoft to fill Game Pass with first party content than with third party content), but they aren't the reason why this machine exists.
Am i drunk or are you saying that games with 12tf under their ass are not gonna look better than gears5 on xone x? A game that is already surpassed in graphics by at least half a dozen of games?! (Not native english talker here so maybe i understood wrong).
 
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casual gamers might buy Samsung TV's might come integrated with hardware to do Xcloud gaming ( keeping latency to the minimum ). lol. Then what will sony do with movie-games ?
 

Vawn

Banned
Of course, but 99% of games are multyplatform, so knowing that one console can run this games with 12tf under his ass is still a big thing.

I'm aware that nd, guerrila etc are gonna challenge microsoft first party graphics even with 9 tf because they are magicians, but most of games today are multy, so power does matter for hardcore gamers.

99%? I think you've been playing on a console with very few worthwhile exclusives for too long.

 
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GymWolf

Member
99%? I think you've been playing on a console with very few worthwhile exclusives for too long.

i only use a ps4 pro for exclusives 😆
for microsoft game i have a pc.

you really picked the wrong guy on this one my dude.

ok maybe 99% is wrong, let's say 90%.
 
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Kenpachii

Member
So now big navi is going to be 17 tflops or something. i wonder why microsoft just didn't went with that and slam dunked sony without any effort.
 
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