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Microsoft confirms 12 TF RDNA 2 for the Xbox Series X

NickFire

Member
I can't imagine missing out on games like God of War, Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Bloodborne, etc because of system specs.
Of course you wouldn't, because the list makes clear you will buy multiple consoles to get the exclusives you want.

I'm not saying you're wrong dude. I'm just saying that right now, to me, all I care about is specs and price because I know there will be plenty to play anywhere.
 

Shin

Banned
Thank you. However, there is no mentioning of XSX having RDNA2 in that article? or there is some implication I did't catch.
It was more about the sheer power of the 2 systems than which architecture.
Can't say, I didn't see the leak in it's original form nor I'm not going to do the research.
 
These system specs look great on paper, but we can all agree the games are more important than all other factors combined, right?

Yes, but Xbox will have those also. They didn't get all those studios for nothing. The thing is literally launching day one with one of the biggest franchises out there Halo, on a brand new engine designed for next gen hardware. Game pass is the perfect offering for people who have just spent a ton on an expensive console. Controllers we already have will work with the new xbox out the gate. All games purchased for xbox one from microsoft first parties, as well as cyberpunk, gets you the free next gen version of the game, xcloud is looking impressive, Backwards compatability will be amazing out the gate with games getting resolution, framerate and other enhancements without devs having to do anything.

There's a ton of power, but there's also a whole lot of gaming to be had also. People don't want amazing specs for amazing specs. They want them to play awesome games, and Xbox will have that area more than covered. Hellblade 2 is on the way also even if it's a little further out. Playground has new titles in development, Initiative's game is being worked on, rare has a major new IP coming that looks interesting, obsidian has new major titles in development. Let's just wait and see.

It's too easy to forget that Xbox's situation isn't exactly a Google Stadia type deal. Many of the biggest titles are coming to Xbox by the thousands. Xbox just needs to step up their first party, and they will do just that.
 

CyberPanda

Banned
Yes, but Xbox will have those also. They didn't get all those studios for nothing. The thing is literally launching day one with one of the biggest franchises out there Halo, on a brand new engine designed for next gen hardware. Game pass is the perfect offering for people who have just spent a ton on an expensive console. Controllers we already have will work with the new xbox out the gate. All games purchased for xbox one from microsoft first parties, as well as cyberpunk, gets you the free next gen version of the game, xcloud is looking impressive, Backwards compatability will be amazing out the gate with games getting resolution, framerate and other enhancements without devs having to do anything.

There's a ton of power, but there's also a whole lot of gaming to be had also. People don't want amazing specs for amazing specs. They want them to play awesome games, and Xbox will have that area more than covered. Hellblade 2 is on the way also even if it's a little further out. Playground has new titles in development, Initiative's game is being worked on, rare has a major new IP coming that looks interesting, obsidian has new major titles in development. Let's just wait and see.

It's too easy to forget that Xbox's situation isn't exactly a Google Stadia type deal. Many of the biggest titles are coming to Xbox by the thousands. Xbox just needs to step up their first party, and they will do just that.
Woot.
 

Joey.

Member
Just can't see it being possible but a $399 Xbox Series X would be mouth watering.
Really hoping they can somehow do it all for a $499, even though that figure seems too low too.

My body is already ready for E3 2020. I just want to see games, games and more games.

Drop a Halo megaton bomb, what's Playground doing - apparently they'd like to work on a new IP? Same goes for Coalition, what are they up to? Something new from Obsidian? Ninja Theory's Hellblade? More on Project Mara? Anything new from Rare? And many others. Give it all to me. I think Xbox's accumulation of studios this current gen, will prove fruitful for this upcoming gen. Fingers crossed at least.
 
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Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Forza is wonderful. Truly wonderful. But Gears 4 and 5 were both awful. I downloaded 5 on Gamepass, and it was so boring I could barely make it out of the tutorial. The franchise feels dead. Like something that should have ended ten years ago (having been, at that point, about the coolest game on console). It never evolved. Halo has had a bad gen. Sea of Thieves looked great, and then you played it and realised it was a tech demo for water effects. And then you had stuff like Crackdown 3, which was fun in the way that playing an Amiga game is enjoyable. They've just lost their way.

Sony, in contrast, has nailed the single player, big budget title. I'd rather chew glass than play Uncharted, but it's polished and has an audience.

MS just need to get their audience back, and that's by having the the best console shooter. Needs to blow Destiny and Overwatch and COD out of the water. Needs to spend two to three years sat in the top 5 on Twitch.

That's what will bring X box back.
Xbox is back foo! And not everyone cares for Sony's games. I don't. At all. Fuck that one and done walking simulator shit. No offense. SoT is one their best new IP's this gen. Gears 4 was great! Safe but great! Gears 5 was bloody awesome and a mind blowing package. Just my two cents.
 

pr0cs

Member
Gears 4 was great! Safe but great! Gears 5 was bloody awesome and a mind blowing package. Just my two cents.
Agree on both counts.
I mean, if you didn't like last Gen gears then why would you think that this Gen's version would be fundamentally different.
The coalition is a pretty seasoned team at this point, I'd still prefer to see them tackle something new. Similar to Playground, I am hoping their take on Fable reboots Fable like Horizon rebooted the Forza series
 
Xbox is back foo! And not everyone cares for Sony's games. I don't. At all. Fuck that one and done walking simulator shit. No offense. SoT is one their best new IP's this gen. Gears 4 was great! Safe but great! Gears 5 was bloody awesome and a mind blowing package. Just my two cents.

I disagree with the walking simulator talk. Most Playstation exclusives are great. Some are not. But Microsoft hasn’t been on point regarding their first party this gen. Microsoft I’m sure will improve and deliver great games with all of their new studios. But Sony will continue delivering hits. Neither camp will be at a disadvantage. Embrace it. We’re in for a treat.
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
I disagree with the walking simulator talk. Most Playstation exclusives are great. Some are not. But Microsoft hasn’t been on point regarding their first party this gen. Microsoft I’m sure will improve and deliver great games with all of their new studios. But Sony will continue delivering hits. Neither camp will be at a disadvantage. Embrace it. We’re in for a treat.
I've been embracing it. We know Sony will have bangers. So will XGS. This will be a whole new gen!
 

Senua

Member
I disagree with the walking simulator talk. Most Playstation exclusives are great. Some are not. But Microsoft hasn’t been on point regarding their first party this gen. Microsoft I’m sure will improve and deliver great games with all of their new studios. But Sony will continue delivering hits. Neither camp will be at a disadvantage. Embrace it. We’re in for a treat.
Walking simulator is harsh, more like 30fps third person action games which are 80% cutscenes. They sure are pretty though!
 
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sdrawkcab

Banned
I heard that for the last ten years. I'm a bit more skeptical.
Can't blame you. But, for the last 10 yrs Xbox hasn't been buying up a good half-a-dozen studios, in a few short months. In fact, over the last 10 yrs Microsoft closed a good handful of studios.

I highly doubt they bought these new studios, and intend on paying these employees just to say they have them. It's pretty evident that Microsoft isn't coming to play. And some of these studios are no slouches, far from it.

So I'm not skeptical. Hopefully I don't get disappointed.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I can't imagine missing out on games like God of War, Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Bloodborne, etc because of system specs.

I can because I have less then zero interest in any of those, especially when I have Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Playground Fable, Gears 6, Outer Worlds 2, the 2nd untitled RPG Obsidian is working on, Everwild, Project Mara and more to look foward to in addition to all the multi plats that will look & play amazing at 12 RDNA 2 flops.
 

darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
I can because I have less then zero interest in any of those, especially when I have Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Playground Fable, Gears 6, Outer Worlds 2, the 2nd untitled RPG Obsidian is working on, Everwild, Project Mara and more to look foward to in addition to all the multi plats that will look & play amazing at 12 RDNA 2 flops.
Isn't the untitled Obsidian RPG most likely Outer Worlds 2?
 
Isn't the untitled Obsidian RPG most likely Outer Worlds 2?

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CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Isn't the untitled Obsidian RPG most likely Outer Worlds 2?

Nah, They are supposed to be working on an unannouced AAA RPG similar to Skyrim, plus Grounded and most likely Outer Worlds 2.

Some of these new Xbox studios doing double & triple time in output. Ninja Theory doing the beta on Bleeding Edge, working on Hellblade 2 and Project Mare and of course Playground with Fable and Forza Horizon. I forsee A LOT of games in Xbox's future.

SEE:
 

Vawn

Banned
I can because I have less then zero interest in any of those, especially when I have Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Playground Fable, Gears 6, Outer Worlds 2, the 2nd untitled RPG Obsidian is working on, Everwild, Project Mara and more to look foward to in addition to all the multi plats that will look & play amazing at 12 RDNA 2 flops.

You just listed a bunch of 6s and 7s probably against 9.5-10s. Okay. Everyone has a different standard of quality.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I cant wait till the last word says every xbox one game is garbage for some nonsense.

He's going to be very busy next gen, since it looks like there will be an abundance of games coming to Xbox and he'll want to write his usual War and Peace length diatribe for each one detailing why they aren't up to the standards of the sacred Sony holy writs.
 

Vawn

Banned
He's going to be very busy next gen, since it looks like there will be an abundance of games coming to Xbox and he'll want to write his usual War and Peace length diatribe for each one detailing why they aren't up to the standards of the sacred Sony holy writs.

You're the one saying Hellblade is on the same level as Breath of the Wild or God of War. I don't think you should be implying anyone else is delusional.
 

Justin9mm

Member
These system specs look great on paper, but we can all agree the games are more important than all other factors combined, right?
Well developers need those type of specs to make better and greater games, they go hand in hand. This current gen was severely held back. PC Gamers have been complaining for so long that these AAA games developed for console are less graphically advanced to appease the console market. Hopefully this will change a bit next gen.
 
Just remember, the totally legit Reddit leak of the Anaconda and Lockhart leaks in Jan 2019, also had the PS5 specs leaked with it, showing a 8tflop GPU. This absolutely melts with the Github leaks, and the other PS5 dev kit leak that showed a 9.2tflop GPU.
 
I mean just to play devils advocate the info can be true on the leaks but whose to say that info wasn’t both of MS’s consoles if in fact there is a weaker one?

Because Oberon had clocks set in regression testing that match PS4 and PS4 Pro GPU clocks. Doubt MS would have any reason to do that unless XSX is backwards-compatible with Sony consoles too.

Which would be insane, but very unlikely ;)

Nah, it's better. This Xbox spec drop yesterday and my heresy towards games everyone MUST like and respect seems to have you upset :pie_roffles::pie_roffles::pie_roffles:

Some people take MetaCritic waaaaay too seriously. Some of my favorite games of all time would probably score only "okay" on Meta; doesn't take away they're some of my favorite games ever made.

At the very least I can get into detail why those games are my favorites with my own words; people who cling to Meta religiously can't do the same without quoting another reviewer, even for the small stuff xD (or they'll use the same talking points with nothing new to add to them).

I mean some people prefer Mario Sunshine over Mario 64. Sonic Adventure over Sonic 3. Parappa over UmJammer (BUT on this one I gotta say UmJammer just destroys Parappa. Sorry not sorry x3), etc. Perfectly fine, it's not like having a preference means you're attacking other people for having their gaming preferences 🤷‍♂️
 
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CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Because Oberon had clocks set in regression testing that match PS4 and PS4 Pro GPU clocks. Doubt MS would have any reason to do that unless XSX is backwards-compatible with Sony consoles too.

Which would be insane, but very unlikely ;)



Some people take MetaCritic waaaaay too seriously. Some of my favorite games of all time would probably score only "okay" on Meta; doesn't take away they're some of my favorite games ever made.

At the very least I can get into detail why those games are my favorites with my own words; people who cling to Meta religiously can't do the same without quoting another reviewer, even for the small stuff xD (or they'll use the same talking points with nothing new to add to them).

I mean some people prefer Mario Sunshine over Mario 64. Sonic Adventure over Sonic 3. Parappa over UmJammer (BUT on this one I gotta say UmJammer just destroys Parappa. Sorry not sorry x3), etc. Perfectly fine, it's not like having a preference means you're attacking other people for having their gaming preferences 🤷‍♂️

Xbox: taking BC to whole new level :messenger_beaming:
 

Roronoa Zoro

Gold Member
I can't imagine missing out on games like God of War, Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Bloodborne, etc because of system specs.
Exactly. I'd rather have entire exclusive games which constitute about half of my permanent PS3 and PS4 library than a few more pixels or frames on games that I can play on both.
 

Joey.

Member
I can because I have less then zero interest in any of those, especially when I have Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Playground Fable, Gears 6, Outer Worlds 2, the 2nd untitled RPG Obsidian is working on, Everwild, Project Mara and more to look foward to in addition to all the multi plats that will look & play amazing at 12 RDNA 2 flops.

:lollipop_fire:
Those are some potential big hitters. That's got me hyped.
I don't know why someone said those are 6 and 7s.
Halo, Gears, Fable, Outer Worlds and Hellblade all have likely potential to be big hitters. Forza is another. Then you got some new exciting stuff like the untitled RPG by Obsidian, Everwild, Project Mara, etc.


E3 will be glorious.

Can't wait.
 

Vawn

Banned
FH3 - 91 meta
FM6 - 87 meta
FM7 - 86 meta
FH4 - 92 meta
Gears 4 and 5 - 84 meta
Halo 5 - 84 meta
Ori - 89 meta
Sunset Overdrive - 81 meta

Sony has 0 new games sitting at 95 and above meta FYI.

Those aren't the games he listed. Yes, we know Forza, Halo, Gears. That's it. Three franchises that I don't care about, at all, no matter how much they're driven into the ground.

Ori is a good little 2D metroidvania, but it is multi-platform.

Sunset Overdrive is Sony's IP. It's just dead because no one wants SO when the studio can make Ratcher and Clank, Spider-Man or Resistance Fall of Man.
 
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CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
:lollipop_fire:
Those are some potential big hitters. That's got me hyped.
I don't know why someone said those are 6 and 7s.
Halo, Gears, Fable, Outer Worlds and Hellblade all have likely potential to be big hitters. Forza is another. Then you got some new exciting stuff like the untitled RPG by Obsidian, Everwild, Project Mara, etc.

Obviously they're NOT 6 or 7 games. If Mr Metacritic wants to go by scores, Outer Worlds and Gears 5 outscored Sony's Death Stranding & Days Gone (which is a game that DID score 6s & 7s at 71). but they're Xbox games so of course they can't be good :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Both Forza MS and Horizon ARE huge and outscore and outclass everything else in racing, but like Sony and Nintendo games they aren't my taste so I won't be playing them either which is why I didn't include them.

I did forget about the Initiative game, but we know nothing about it yet, and there's also Grounded from Obsidian and I'm probably still forgetting some games we know about and there are probably a bunch we don't know about yet. I think next gen the Sony fanboys are going to need to find a new song because I don't think "Xbox has no games" is going to work for them anymore.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Those aren't the games he listed. Yes, we know Forza, Halo, Gears. That's it. Three franchises that I don't care about, at all, no matter how much they're driven into the ground.

Ori is a good little 2D metroidvania, but it is multi-platform.

Sunset Overdrive is Sony's IP. It's just dead because no one wants SO when the studio can make Ratcher and Clank, Spider-Man or Resistance Fall of Man.

She (might have guessed that from my screen name) listed Halo Infinite first and also listed Gears 6. I guess you missed it and everything else except Hellblade (Hellblade 1 at 88 btw not 6 or 7), since that is all you seem to want to talk about.

I didn't list Forza & Ori because like Sony & Nintendo games, I don't like racing or platformer games either (although I do kinda like Ori - just can't play it worth a shit).
 
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