I was going to suggest the same thing. It was probably because they had old BIOS versions that didn't support the new processors.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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I was going to suggest the same thing. It was probably because they had old BIOS versions that didn't support the new processors.
appaws
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So you can go with a really high-end air cooler....nice....
Couple more questions....is your priority purely performance, quiet, or a good balance of the two. Also, what case do you have? Gotta know how much clearance you have for the heatsink.
appaws
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The ones in the OP...or in the system guide at Techreport....
Whatever fits your budget from Gigabyte, Asrock, or MSI should be fine. I still recommend that you go with a Z97 board, as I did a bunch of times back when you were first putting things together.
And don't develop anti-feelings for Asus, they are a great company and make among the best and most reliable motherboards.
Case is coolermaster 690. I'm looking for a balance of quiet and performance.
appaws
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My recommendation is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018
The Noctua NH-D14. This is a really badass air cooler with a great balance of quiet and performance for $70. Look at reviews, this is widely considered a great product.
You case can fit up to a 177mm tall air cooler, so no problem there.
I think you can get this on there with something to keep the fan rpms down, either your motherboard's fan profiles, or even something like the NZXT grid+ to control all your fans.
Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft aren't very demanding games. If by "Be as conservative as possible please" you mean as low cost as possible while running them at max settings, then this build should suffice.
Here are some head to head benchmarks and tests. Scroll down to the lower half for the games benchmarking.
What power supply do you have now?
Ideally, you should back up your stuff and install a fresh copy of Windows to the SSD. If you have no place to back up your data for the time being, you can disconnect the old hard drive, connect the new SSD, install Windows to the new SSD, then reconnect your old hard drive.
At some point you'll need to format the old hard drive because old copies of Windows can interfere with the installation and running of other copies of Windows on adjacent hard drives.
Alternatively, you could clone your current hard drive to the SSD, but if you have more data than can fit on the SSD, that won't work. Follow these two guides:
Migrating Windows 7 to a new SSD
Upgrade existing hard drive
PetriP-TNT
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Oooww yeeah gonna start ordering stuff for my first ever build today
I am very very excite. Also: terrified. Gonna be in the Excellent Range, expect the price will be like 1.5x of that, thanks mr. Finland.
I am very very excite. Also: terrified. Gonna be in the Excellent Range, expect the price will be like 1.5x of that, thanks mr. Finland.
I have no idea which Seasonic M12II you're talking about, there are 4 or 5 different versions that are rated at different wattages. That Antec is a good power supply, though. All the reviews I can find rate it well. For $40 after rebate, it's a good price, and will be good enough to handle most single graphics card systems and maybe some moderate overclocking.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCG-620M/10.html
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Noctua NH-D15 for $85.
TechPowerUp - "With the cooler only 1-2 dBA behind the quietest coolers, Noctua does extremely well at 25% and 50% fan speed. This is why Noctua has the reputation it does. Not only does the NH-D15 take the air-cooling crown, it does so while being extremely quiet."
Guru3D - "And it has to be stated, you'll have a tough time finding a better performing heat-pipe based product than the NH-D15."
"I can write an entire paragraph about this, but let's just call it what it is and get it over with, the noise levels are simply really good and thus extremely silent, even with two fans in push-pull configuration noise should not be an issue whatsoever unless you force the fans to say, over 80% RPM."
Tweaktown - "we found the noise level to be just audible from a foot away, and again it is more of a mechanical hum that is audible rather than fan blade "whoosh" that most fans deliver. So, while it beats all other coolers thermally, it also offers less noise than be quiet. solutions, and even some five dB less than other Noctua models in the list. Well done Noctua, well done."
Thatoneguy64
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I have a Corsair CX500, which has served my build well but is around 3 years old and I hear shouldn't be trusted with a 970.
But Newegg's Cyber Monday deals have hit and they're the same as teh Black Friday deals. I'm picking up an Antec HCG-620M. $40 after a $20 mail-in rebate.
exmachina64
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Oooww yeeah gonna start ordering stuff for my first ever build today
I am very very excite. Also: terrified. Gonna be in the Excellent Range, expect the price will be like 1.5x of that, thanks mr. Finland.
Let's swap citizenship. You can have my low taxes, family, and Amazon Prime account. If that's not enough, I'm prepared to offer my Social Security number.
Anyone know anything about these two SSDs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694
Either of them any good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694
Either of them any good?
j0hnny_385
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Looking for a good HTPC keyboard that's not some Ebay knockoff crap.
Anything better than the Logitech K400? Advice, thoughts, comments are welcome!
Anything better than the Logitech K400? Advice, thoughts, comments are welcome!
eBay Huckster
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as far as i can remember, they're decent (though pretty good for that price)
but re: the M500, you're better off shelling out $20-ish more for an MX100 of the same capacity
e: okay, so it's actually $30ish more on there
ThoseDeafMutes
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Omg I think my PC is fucked.
Although the SSD test insists that old files weren't loading any slower than new ones on average (I'm rolling a Samsung 840 non-EVO), I've been noticing crashing and relatively poor performance in some respects lately. Slower boot times and such.
I formatted my PC today, and ran into a series of clusterfucks. It gave me this stupid error about how it couldn't use the empty partition to install windows, gave no reason why. Found no useful information online about the error. Eventually it just worked, seemingly for no reason.
After the install, every time it rebooted windows it took ages, like this is an SSD less than 2 years old and it was giving me 3-5 minute boot times. I thought it was just first time configuration, but now it's kept going. It's still giving 3-5 minute boot times. Programs are being laggy. Freezing for a few moments when I do stuff sometimes. This is literally installed less than three hours ago. I'm reusing my storage secondary drive which has some programs installed on it... but stuff on the SSD seems to be just as troubled.
Now what's sending me over the edge is the damned computer won't install drivers for my Xbox One gamepad. It failed to install them automatically. I installed them manually. It "worked", except it's not recognizing the gamepad, and when I plug it in even though I get the 'device connected' sound it's not popping up with a "safely remove blah" or "installing blah" or anything like that. And the controller itself doesn't work.
Although the SSD test insists that old files weren't loading any slower than new ones on average (I'm rolling a Samsung 840 non-EVO), I've been noticing crashing and relatively poor performance in some respects lately. Slower boot times and such.
I formatted my PC today, and ran into a series of clusterfucks. It gave me this stupid error about how it couldn't use the empty partition to install windows, gave no reason why. Found no useful information online about the error. Eventually it just worked, seemingly for no reason.
After the install, every time it rebooted windows it took ages, like this is an SSD less than 2 years old and it was giving me 3-5 minute boot times. I thought it was just first time configuration, but now it's kept going. It's still giving 3-5 minute boot times. Programs are being laggy. Freezing for a few moments when I do stuff sometimes. This is literally installed less than three hours ago. I'm reusing my storage secondary drive which has some programs installed on it... but stuff on the SSD seems to be just as troubled.
Now what's sending me over the edge is the damned computer won't install drivers for my Xbox One gamepad. It failed to install them automatically. I installed them manually. It "worked", except it's not recognizing the gamepad, and when I plug it in even though I get the 'device connected' sound it's not popping up with a "safely remove blah" or "installing blah" or anything like that. And the controller itself doesn't work.
j0hnny_385
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Seems like SSD is in trouble / dying / youarealreadydead.jpg
840 Pro or just "840"? Is the latest firmware on? No S:M.A.R.T. errors?
840 Pro or just "840"? Is the latest firmware on? No S:M.A.R.T. errors?
Vulcano's assistant
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Oh man. Sorry to hear about it, ThoseDeafMutes.
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So I don't have any decent headphones, but the Creative's sound card is cheap in new egg, so since sound is one of the things i know little about i was going to ask for some headphones recommendations here that actually let me take advantage of the card. I'm not spending more than $150 on them, mind you, and I would really appreciate budget recommendations too. Thanks in advance.
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So I don't have any decent headphones, but the Creative's sound card is cheap in new egg, so since sound is one of the things i know little about i was going to ask for some headphones recommendations here that actually let me take advantage of the card. I'm not spending more than $150 on them, mind you, and I would really appreciate budget recommendations too. Thanks in advance.
Looking for a good HTPC keyboard that's not some Ebay knockoff crap.
Anything better than the Logitech K400? Advice, thoughts, comments are welcome!
There's the Microsoft All-in-One Media keyboard for $22 that's basically the same thing, marketed as a competing product, often goes on sale. Similar build quality, similar features. It comes down to which one's available for cheaper and which one you like better.
Are you looking for any specific features? Backlit keys? Wireless? Media controls?
j0hnny_385
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Bought the K400 since there were no compelling alternatives here in Croatia. Ehhh. I gues it'll be fine.
Oh, sorry for assuming you were in the US. Not many alternatives, I guess.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I think the Xbox controller issue is update related now.
But as to the others, it's "just" an 840. I tried to use the evo fix but it didn't run because mine isn't an evo. Have not ever touched firmware on it. Don't know what a SMART error is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
You must enable S.M.A.R.T support in your BIOS for the drive in question. Then download HDTune and run a S.M.A.R.T test.
j0hnny_385
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Enable SMART monitoring in BIOS (should be enabled by default on most MBOs, IMHO).
Download Crystal Disk Info or HDTune and check your HDD for any errors, warning signs, etc.
Download Samsung Magician (the official Samsung SSD software for configs, firmware updates ,etc.) and check the latest firmware.
Could be motherboard issues. How ere you installing Windows? Some times Windows 7 installer will refuse to install for me because of the way it was booted (UEFI issues). Maybe try resetting motherboard to default settings.
Samsung has 3 year warranty on your SSD, might be time to submit a warranty request on the drive if the problems are narrowed down to a failing or faulty drive. The problem is that your recent don't exactly match the recent Samsung SSD bug, that only affects data stored for a long time on the SSD.
j0hnny_385
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I need a recommendation for a good 2.1 sound system. Where/Who should I look? Logitech?
Prophet Steve
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From what I remember I think it is. I believe it was what was recommended before the MX100 came out. Not the best performance, but you likely won''t notice it.
I'd highly doubt it.
j0hnny_385
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Page 400! O_O
Damn PC folks, Part 3 imminent!
Damn PC folks, Part 3 imminent!
right Haz?
I'm planning a "partial" upgrade from my old setup:
i5-2400 Processor
AMD Radeon HD 6850 GPU
to a:
i5-4670K Processor
Crucial MX100 256GB SSD (in addition to the old HDD)
NVidia Zotac GTX970 4GB
Gigabyte B85 Motherboard (LGA1150)
A few questions:
Gaming-wise, I'm most keen on the GTX970 upgrade because it should see me through the next two years at a minimum. Though I assume what it'll give me is the ability to downsample from 1080p+ resolutions and enable the snazzier effects, not so much frame rates? How much will it benefit Skyrim with ENBs and Dragon Age Inquisition, for instance?
And the CPU, is i5-4690k the much better option given it's newer (but not that different from performance-wise, the i5-4670k?) Is the i7-4790k with its 4GHz a worthy investment for the boost it will offer? I'm wondering about this from the CPU-limited angle shit with recent games (unless I'm completely mistaken).
i5-2400 Processor
AMD Radeon HD 6850 GPU
to a:
i5-4670K Processor
Crucial MX100 256GB SSD (in addition to the old HDD)
NVidia Zotac GTX970 4GB
Gigabyte B85 Motherboard (LGA1150)
A few questions:
Gaming-wise, I'm most keen on the GTX970 upgrade because it should see me through the next two years at a minimum. Though I assume what it'll give me is the ability to downsample from 1080p+ resolutions and enable the snazzier effects, not so much frame rates? How much will it benefit Skyrim with ENBs and Dragon Age Inquisition, for instance?
And the CPU, is i5-4690k the much better option given it's newer (but not that different from performance-wise, the i5-4670k?) Is the i7-4790k with its 4GHz a worthy investment for the boost it will offer? I'm wondering about this from the CPU-limited angle shit with recent games (unless I'm completely mistaken).
Get a Z97 motherboard to OC that K CPU. The i5 is still the sweetspot at the minute over the i7. Games will eventually make use of more threads but as of now there isn't a huge gap.
The extra boost the i7 offers will be negated with an OC.
970 should be good for downsampling at 1080p. Should give those games some nice crisp IQ.
Difference between the 4690K and the 4670K is minimal really, get whichever is cheaper.
Unless you do video encoding, for instance. In which case definitely get the 4690K.
opticalmace
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You mean the 4790K. The 4690K and 4670K are literally the same apart from 100MHz.
They'll both overclock similarly, there'll be little difference. Unless you're getting your wires crossed and thinking of the 4790K.
Thanks. I'm really close to doing it. I'd greatly prefer the Samsung EVO but when it's all said and done, I suspect ANY SSD is going to be light years better. They all have the same 3 year warranty.
Any particular reason why? You won't notice a performance difference except in very specific circumstances (that is, not gaming).
Prophet Steve
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I don't think there is much reason to greatly prefer the EVO. The M500 has security against power loss of which I don't know whether the new EVOs have it.
And you are not likely to notice the speed difference.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Acer GN246HL is currently on sale for $190 on Newegg. Should I jump? Is it garbage? Seems suspiciously low compared to the ASUS equivalent. Been googling around, people seem to suggest ASUS, but that just seems like a hate against ACER.
There was a promo code for TigerDirect which would have allowed for the i5 4690 for $165, plus a $15 off promo making it $150.
Just as I was about to impulsively order this and hold on to it for a build early next year, the code stopped working.
Just as I was about to impulsively order this and hold on to it for a build early next year, the code stopped working.
opticalmace
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There was a promo code for TigerDirect which would have allowed for the i5 4690 for $165, plus a $15 off promo making it $150.
Just as I was about to impulsively order this and hold on to it for a build early next year, the code stopped working.
It's okay, this way you won't have to deal with TD.
You know, you guys are right. I tend to lean toward the more popular and widely well reviewed product when I'm deciding between brands and models but we're talking very little real world differences here. The extra 20 gigs is a small factor too but when we're looking at the price difference I have to say the M500 is a win. It'll be $150 after the paypal code from newegg with no tax (compared to amazon) and I don't have to worry about selling a farcry code.
Thanks guys
Going to order it. $150 is too good.edit: Except newegg won't let me remove the useless targus External battery power pack "free gift" and thus cannot apply the $30 off promo code. sigh. Back to the drawing board.
I've never had issues with them in the past... though it has been a few years.
Prophet Steve
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You know, you guys are right. I tend to lean toward the more popular and widely well reviewed product when I'm deciding between brands and models but we're talking very little real world differences here. The extra 20 gigs is a small factor too but when we're looking at the price difference I have to say the M500 is a win. It'll be $150 after the paypal code from newegg with no tax (compared to amazon) and I don't have to worry about selling a farcry code.
Thanks guys
edit: Except newegg won't let me remove the useless targus External battery power pack "free gift" and thus cannot apply the $30 off promo code. sigh. Back to the drawing board.
Try an email. If the customer support is decent (we don't have newegg here) I am pretty sure they would do something about that.
SweetJohnnyCage
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Hey all. I believe I posted here a while back, but now my purchase is more imminent since I'll be getting my holiday bonus from work. Here's my question!
I'm looking to upgrade to a GTX980. I currently have a 580 Fermi that has lasted me a good 4 years, but it's starting to show its age. I do a bit of streaming and video encoding, but gaming is my primary function. I'm currently using a 2600k OC'd to 4.5ghz. Will I have any sort of bottleneck with that chip when using a 980? I don't really have the funds to upgrade my chip, but if I'm just pissing money away on the 980 and won't be able to utilize it, I'd like to know. I currently have a Z77 Sabertooth, so I have the PCIe 3.0 slots ready to go. Thanks!
I'm looking to upgrade to a GTX980. I currently have a 580 Fermi that has lasted me a good 4 years, but it's starting to show its age. I do a bit of streaming and video encoding, but gaming is my primary function. I'm currently using a 2600k OC'd to 4.5ghz. Will I have any sort of bottleneck with that chip when using a 980? I don't really have the funds to upgrade my chip, but if I'm just pissing money away on the 980 and won't be able to utilize it, I'd like to know. I currently have a Z77 Sabertooth, so I have the PCIe 3.0 slots ready to go. Thanks!
CPU is still good.
You won't get PCIe 3.0 with a 2500K, it doesn't have the support in it. Doesn't matter anyway though.
A 980 in your rig will fly.
No the 2600k at that speed will not bottleneck a single 980.
I'd suggest looking into the 970. It is the better deal and has a lot of head room for overclocking. You can easily get it to 980 performance while saving money. Unless you just have to have the top product available (I understand), then go for it.
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