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[KingKong]

AV Club gave it a C. I really don't get it.

Eh I agree, this was a setup episode that teased the finale and I thought the last shot of the lawnmower man was pretty weak

 

[Fjordson]

I had to search the word goodwill (on a translation website called Leo ) but if it means what I think it means why would HBO need it? I mean I get where you are coming from and definitely good for them, but they are HBO, don't they have all the goodwill they would ever need? I'm not from America but at least where I live, if HBO makes a show people know it will be good and they watch it.

You're not wrong, but it's still a nice feather in HBO's cap. Hasn't always been common for established actors to do TV work that runs concurrent with their film work, let alone Oscar-winning actors, but situations like this may help continue the trend.

 

[bomb]

Spoilers!!!

http://youtu.be/XaYzXvSR3Js

Dont click unless you want things given away.

MOD EDIT: For some context, this is an audition video for an actor that gives some things away. Slate has more on it here. Please spoiler tag anything from the finale.

Lol this guy tried to beat out Remus for a role? "No one beats Reamus" said Reamus.

 

[Superflat]

I wonder if there's room for discussion about the idea that Maggie "made" him do it. Like he had no control over the situation and wasn't smart enough to understand it was wrong and that he was fucking over a partner.

I always thought Rust liked Maggie, and when she revealed to him afterwards her real intention, he was burned.

 

[~Kinggi~]

You're not wrong, but it's still a nice feather in HBO's cap. Hasn't always been common for established actors to do TV work that runs concurrent with their film work, let alone Oscar-winning actors, but situations like this may help continue the trend.

That's really what i was getting at. Actors on HBO tv shows almost never are in the process of winning Oscars as the show is airing. I really can't recall any.

 

[Night Hunter]

You're not wrong, but it's still a nice feather in HBO's cap. Hasn't always been common for established actors to do TV work that runs concurrent with their film work, let alone Oscar-winning actors, but situations like this may help continue the trend.

Yeah, let's hope so, but I stil think that a multi year commitment is just too much for a lot of big actors so it probably won't happen unless TV rakes in a lot more money.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

HBO is attracting a whole 'nother caliber of actors. Before it was just really great television actors, now they're attracting great film actors it really is a feather in their cap and cements that reputation of producing quality television

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Shots fired at Leo? http://youtu.be/yWGaKOetSoQ?t=37s

 

[~Kinggi~]

HBO is attracting a whole 'nother caliber of actors. Before it was just really great television actors, now they're attracting great film actors it really is a feather in their cap and cements that reputation of producing quality television

It is what's happening in the production of quality content. With the way studios think when it comes to backing profitable projects, it doesn't surprise me TV is suddenly becoming a place for better talent to thrive. I mean look at Netflix and House of Cards.

 

[Pocks]

Shots fired at Leo? http://youtu.be/yWGaKOetSoQ?t=37s

Daaaamn.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

It is what's happening in the production of quality content. With the way studios think when it comes to backing profitable projects, it doesn't surprise me TV is suddenly becoming a place for better talent to thrive. I mean look at Netflix and House of Cards.

THat's cause it's a writer's medium. Most screenwriters I've talked to ultimately prefer television over films, cause of that control as oppose to being forced to change their scripts or else they'll get replaced.

 

[firehawk12]

I'm not sure where people's disappointment of it being the lawnmover guy is coming from.

Is it because it's not a big plot twist?

I assume so. People expect BIG TWISTS now.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I'm not sure where people's disappointment of it being the lawnmover guy is coming from.

Is it because it's not a big plot twist?

thats what they get for telling a solid story, they shoulda gone the way of Lost and just made no sense whatsoever.

 

[Cornballer]

Already known, but just to confirm again:

Btw, McConaughey told the #Oscars press room that he is definitely not returning for another season of True Detective.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Already known, but just to confirm again:

Honestly from the very beginning the way the way were setting the story up...When all was said and done, I didn't think he could return even if he wanted too...

 

[brianjones]

Eh I agree, this was a setup episode that teased the finale and I thought the last shot of the lawnmower man was pretty weak

he's driving around IN CIRCLES

 

[smokeymicpot]

Already known, but just to confirm again:

That still sucks. Alright episode funny how it actually was the lawn mower guy the whole time.

 

[wenis]

what a good episode of television.

I'm gonna watch the episode in a few, but AV Club gave it a C?

and their rational is all over the place. the madness has clearly taken over the audience.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

This is also the second time we've had a moment where we see "the monster" before The Detectives do.

I think that's worth noting.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

The Tuttles are obviously a screwed bunch but they weren't protecting him...They were trying to keep shit on the down low, because Errol used their screwed up rituals as part of his M.O

I'm confused about something, the men with the masks, the Tuttles are involved in that right? Is Errol a part of that group or is he seperate? The reason I ask is because in the inside the episode video Pizzalato says that the video Marty watches was of a child sacrifice, so wouldn't that mean the Tuttles are involved in the murders, or is that separate from what Errol is doing?

 

[xbhaskarx]

HBO drunk as fuck right now after they snagged an Oscar winner for an on-air show.

With the season finale airing next week.

Spoiler

I bet they're wishing this wasn't an anthology with a new cast each season right about now, though...

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Good shit, can't wait for the finale!

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I'm confused about something, the men with the masks, the Tuttles are involved in that right? Is Errol a part of that group or is he seperate? The reason I ask is because in the inside the episode video Pizzalato says that the video Marty watches was of a child sacrifice, so wouldn't that mean the Tuttles are involved in the murders, or is that separate from what Errol is doing?

I get the impression they're involved but Errol is the one actually committing the murders.

 

[xbhaskarx]

I can barely tell that these are the same guy...

 

[TrAcEr_x90]

How in the hell are they gonna end all this in a significant way in one hour? I've been hyping this show up to everyone I know. I hope this all pays off.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

How in the hell are they gonna end all this in a significant way in one hour? I've been hyping this show up to everyone I know. I hope this all pays off.

It was all a dream...or some sorta afterlife or some shit...

Or just have a full hour of JJ Abrams sitting in an armchair explaining what should've happened.

 

[potam]

I get the impression they're involved but Errol is the one actually committing the murders.

Either way, the investigation is much larger than the murders themselves.

 

[CoolOff]

As a single young man in his 20s, Marty sitting at the house eating a TV dinner alone had me legit shook.

Me too man, me too.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

I get the impression they're involved but Errol is the one actually committing the murders.

Yeah, that makes sense. My idea, that I think someone else had a few pages ago, was that the Tuttles were involved in molesting the kids but that they weren't involved in the murders, and that really creepy video Marty watched was of the Marie girl being abused, not actually killed.

I even thought Errol was maybe picking his victims from those who had been abused, and he knew about the Tuttles rituals and that's he placed the blindfold on Dora Lang so it would point in their direction. You know he was using their ritual as a cover for himself.

I figured that was why the Rev. Tuttle got involved, just in case it led back to him, but then Pizzalato says the video was of a child sacrifice, so I don't know what to think anymore.

Apologies for rambling like this.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Good episode. Moves things along quickly to setup the finale. I'm so glad rust and marty are back together, gonna go read some fanfic involving them to celebrate.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

1 episode left. I am sad

 

[Vyer]

I was expecting more scarring.

Hard to believe there's only an hour left.

 

[Steelyuhas]

wait.

thats remus from Boardwalk Empire?? lol i didn't notice

Yep!

I can barely tell that these are the same guy...

He looks...younger? 17 years later?

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Good episode. Moves things along quickly to setup the finale. I'm so glad rust and marty are back together, gonna go read some fanfic involving them to celebrate.

If it doesn't involve some sort of crossover with DBZ or Sonic than it's not fanfic worth reading.

 

[Mobius 1]

How did Maggie get that big house?

She married a wealthier man. You could see pictures of them around the house. One in front of the Louvre in Paris.

 

[Mairu]

AV Club gave it a C. I really don't get it.

I can never take tv reviews seriously after the gushing over Girls season 2.

Really looking forward to the finale, sad that it'll be the last episode with the team that's done the whole season. I thought there were some pretty powerful scenes in this episode even if it was a significant amount of setup for next week.

 

[spootime]

Yeah, that makes sense. My idea, that I think someone else had a few pages ago, was that the Tuttles were involved in molesting the kids but that they weren't involved in the murders, and that really creepy video Marty watched was of the Marie girl being abused, not actually killed.

I even thought Errol was maybe picking his victims from those who had been abused, and he knew about the Tuttles rituals and that's he placed the blindfold on Dora Lang so it would point in their direction. You know he was using their ritual as a cover for himself.

I figured that was why the Rev. Tuttle got involved, just in case it led back to him, but then Pizzalato says the video was of a child sacrifice, so I don't know what to think anymore.

Apologies for rambling like this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like the guy in the video was holding a sacrificial knife

 

[James Woods]

Final scene was so bad.

 

[TimeEffect]

I have a feeling that both Rust and Marty are going to get killed off in the finale to close the story.

I see this happening... would be quite something if everything just gets revealed but remains covered up. Then, for future seasons, they could drop some nice references or easter eggs or something. That would make things so eerie to leave it all unsolved. Story is about Rust and Marty anyway

I'm almost positive that Childress was the name of one of the cops that was there when that guy who confessed to Rust killed himself.

Sorry, who is Childress again? I'm missing the connection..

 

[CoolOff]

Final scene was so bad.

Glad I'm not alone in thinking this. Rare misstep.

 

[TrAcEr_x90]

I loved how rust walked away and stared at the symbol while Marty watched. Just a crazy intense scene.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

God damn Marty's depressing ass life :*(

He's got a more than decent car though.

I can barely tell that these are the same guy...

That can't be the same guy.

I thought it was a really good episode. Modern time detective work for Rust and Marty. A mini flashfoward within the episode to have Marty confirm to Maggie that he was in fact helping Rust out. The debt, which is guilt had to bring these two back together to solve this case. Rust isn't a crazy person, he's not the killer, he's done his detective work, and we'll see how it all comes together in the finale.

 

[Ashes]

Red Herring? Red Herring.

 

[twerkitout]

Is sam tuttle dead? He is the yellow king (unless he is dead) and his family is involved in procuring and disposing of young ladies as "he only likes the first time" (that is how i remember the quote at least"

Very hard to believe either Marty or Rust had anything to do with, My wife thinks maggie could be connected, but I dont see it. She was a vehicle to develop Mary and make the story more interest

Steal Eddit - I also agree with Amirox's post that it will connect to Marty's daughter somehow (and some spelling)

Also my prediction is neither Matry nor Rust make to to the credits alive. We will get closure but not satisfaction

 

[Vespene]

Finally I can read this thread without people bullshit "Rust and Marty are killers" rambling. This isn't I Know What You Did Last Summer, goddamn. Alright alright alright!

BTW, as good as the show is, I found the final scene kinda hammy.

 

[Ashes]

Finally I can read this thread without people bullshit "Rust and Marty are killers" rambling. This isn't I Know What You Did Last Summer, goddamn. Alright alright alright!

The detective being in on it is as rare as butlers. & the writers didn't even pick the more likelier detective.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like the guy in the video was holding a sacrificial knife

Was he? Well shit looks like I need to pay more attention, in that case it must have been obvious that they were about to perform a sacrifice.

Red Herring? Red Herring.

Errol being the killer? I doubt that's a red herring since Nic Pizzalato said he's not interested in trying to trick the audience, I mean leading the audience to believe Errol is the killer and than revealing that it was actually someone else, it seems like it would be doing just that.

Plus on the inside video towards the end when Marty and Rust are on the boat, Nic mentions that we get our definitive look at our killer.

 

[shadowkat]

I'm gonna watch the episode in a few, but AV Club gave it a C?

It's better than a C.

 

[PBY]

I was kind of down on tonight's episode, although I still thought it was pretty great. But who cares about the AV Club review? It's an opinion. I thought it was decently written. That's it.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

I couldn't care less about a review for TD.