Papacheeks
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I'm sorry if i sound like a jackass but i had a good chuckle at that part
SO you have one?
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SO you have one?
GymWolf
Gold Member
No, but it mostly gonna be a gimmick that is not gonna change the experience more than 5% if you really care about these things, it's a god damn vibration and maybe some resistence from the trigger (not annoying in the slightest i bet...), No matter how good the vibration is, it's not gonna change the experience for people who don't care about controller gimmicks, probably the majority of hardcore gamers.
Also i can ask you the same thing, do you already tried a dual sense??
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Papacheeks
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Yes. I have.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Any thoughts? I'm open to change my mind.
Papacheeks
Banned
Have you used a Pro controller?
It shits on that in terms of the feedback it gives you. They are losing money on these at $69.99. I held it for a minute or so, and got to feel haptics, and how gyro's in it work. For some people who never cared for that shit you might not have your mind changed. But for people who have invested in VR like valve's version with their controllers. it feels like this was a testing ground for what Sony is going to use for their VR controllers.
GymWolf
Gold Member
The pro controller is the good not included gamepad for switch right??
No never tried.
But i care about vr,i have the rift and the quest and these type of gimmicks are far more important in vr where immersion is everything.
In a normal controller, while watching a screen i think they lose their reason to exist almost completely.
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Papacheeks
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yea, I have one. It's ok, the only thing that impressed me was playing splatoon with it. But shooting with the dual sense makes it seem like when they do release another vr, using a dual sense is a great option for people. Specifically racing.
GT7 looks like gran turismo, but if the demo I saw is a indication of how they implement feedback, it's going to be a kick ass experience once we have a full fledged PSVR 2 with something like GT7. It doesn't feel like a bunch of actuators and ruble bullshit in a shell going off no matter if your on a turn, braking ect.
It literally has subtleties for different scenario's like light braking, power sliding, if your car starts to really lean and you hit the gas too hard out of a turn and your rear starts to slip.
All this can be felt. How hard you pull back on the trigger for the brakes also took some time.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I edited my post with some other stuff.
Phrixotrichus
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I never did.....but hey, keep on spouting crap lil console warrior.
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HaveButOneLife
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Demon's Souls will likely play better though... and Spider-Man MM is only coming to PS5...
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Its coming to PS4.
darkangel-212559
Banned
What the fuck are you talking about?
Please tell me how God of War, Last of Us Part 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn among others are generic?
I guess you were too busy playing Crackdown 3 to really take note of good games. Did you enjoy a game that literally belongs to the Xbox 360 generation which offered zero innovation?
Get outta here with that Xbox fan boy whining. It's old.
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HaveButOneLife
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I saw nothing about that on the Wiki but I'm sure there's confirmation that I haven't seen yet, thank you for the correction.
I don't like Horizon much if at all. I find PlayStation action-adventure games to be overrated as can be but anything that isn't a shooter or racer on Xbox are just flat out mediocre experiences. I'd rather take the improved games like God of War and TLOU2 that have some RPG elements thrown in to enhance the gameplay experience.
Soulblighter31
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The frame that they use is primitive, simplistic and generic. Horizon actually, in the truest sense is one of the most banal and mediocre offerings out there. Trully. You climb painted walls, you pick plants, crafting, running around a mostrly empty map, skill tree. Its some of the most basic structured games out there. I always knew is was way overblown when it was a ps4 game, by its fans, but having played it now on PC, jesus christ, its a 5 or at max 6/10 game. The reception is trully mind bending.
As i've already pointed out, the frame on which sony's games are built on is about the same - the bombastic, extremely, excedeengly story drive adventures, reliant on script triggering and low player agency, that are mostly interested in presenting the players with a story and characters instead of deep systems or agency.
PC <cough>.
If you haven't been able to save money during this global crisis then you're doomed lol.
Every single gamer friend I know has a pre-order or is going to buy on launch/Xmas. Why? Transport/fuel savings alone = piles of savings.
The launch lineups of either consoles would have to be pure amazeballs to make me buy on launch day, because I'm sure like many others right now:
If you haven't been able to save money during this global crisis then you're doomed lol.
Every single gamer friend I know has a pre-order or is going to buy on launch/Xmas. Why? Transport/fuel savings alone = piles of savings.
You didn't find the combat in HZD engaging? I mean I agree with the other stuff but the combat, especially on higher difficulties...all the strategies you can employ...I mean to give you some guidance I found the Witcher 3 to be the inverse: amazing story but absolutely shite combat: the collision detection and infinite dodge?!? You know a combat engine sucks when the dev bestows you infinite dodge to spam as you please.
For reference what games actually blow you out of the water on Xbox or Pc or whatever?
darkangel-212559
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And MS games do things differently how?
Crackdown 3 is a generic piece of trash that MS were promoting as their huge triple A exclusive. It's a cookie cutter waste of an open world game that is outdone by literally everything else on the market right now. Its an embarrassment for MS to have THAT as part of their exclusive line up.
Or do you mean to bring up State of Decay 2? A buggy, generic, boring mess of an open world zombie survival game. Wow REAL innovative.
Horizon had a great story, fantastic combat system, innovative takes on fighting monsters, stunning graphics and terrific music.
God of War is a master piece.
You trying to shit on Sony exclusives as if they are generic crap is hilariously rich when we take a look at what MS had to offer this gen.
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Soulblighter31
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To tell you the truth, not really. Regarding the combat. Reason for this is, because it was too one note. Its overreliant on the dogde move and highlighting the enemy weak points which you then proceed to hit. Its has few variations in weapons and tools, but the bulk of its system is dodge, dodge and dodge some more, then shoot at the highlighted spot. You are doing this from beggining to end.
I play on PC, and games thay i think are good are broad. From Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander to Half Life 1, NOLF, to Sanitarium and Fallout 1 and so on. The biggest accomplishment in gaming is the Looking Glass gamedesign i feel.
Roberts
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Don't get so upset. It is OK that you like Sony games and somebody doesn't. God of War is great, no doubt about that, and I understand why people like Horizon, but unlike you I have played Crackdown 3 and I actually found it to be more fun, even if its kind of braindead fun. Also, State of Decay 2 isnt buggy, at least when I played a few months ago. Both systems have good games and bad games, both systems produce games that appeal to a certain audience.
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darkangel-212559
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Why would you assume I haven't played Crackdown 3? I did. It was garbage. The end.
State of Decay 2 was hella buggy when it first came out and was still getting patches for its bugs last year.
There is no quality control with Xbox exclusive titles and it shows.
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darkangel-212559
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This MS fan boy rhetoric of calling every Sony driven story game as generic trash is just boring, tired and lazy.
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EruditeHobo
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I haven't been here that long but... does every thread that can be seen as MS vs Sony turn into this?
Anyways, The Medium looks kind of cool. Don't think MS is going to fare that well in the first year but maybe I'm selling gamepass a little short.
I don't feel the need to get another xbox yet... but am definitely looking for one.
Anyways, The Medium looks kind of cool. Don't think MS is going to fare that well in the first year but maybe I'm selling gamepass a little short.
I don't feel the need to get another xbox yet... but am definitely looking for one.
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Dick Jones
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Pity circumstance led to The Medium being released in November. A horror game would have benefitted so much being released in October and the amount of streaming, word of mouth and general eagerness to play scary games in October would have have helped it. However it looks awesome and hope everyone with an Xbox jumps on it and gives it a chance.
Roberts
Member
I was just playing with you. I don't remember when and where, but I think there was a discussion about C3 and I remember that most people who actually played it for more than 10 minutes enjoyed it. And people who trashed it didn't. Or maybe I'm confusing it with Battletoads.
Well, they are improving the game, adding new content. Of course there are going to patches.
Xbox fanboys badmouthing Sony's games are using self-defence mechanisms because of Sony fanboys ridiculing and bullying everything MS related for 7 years. It's childish and, as you said, tired and lazy, but it goes both ways.
Back to the topic: I hope Bloober have improved as developers and storytellers. I think their games are ok, but this one has 10x the hype of their previous games, so expectations are clearly a lot higher.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I feel the same. Combat and exploration were so boring in that game I couldn't get past a the 8 hour mark.
Digital Gex
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I find it funny people are bringing up Crackdown 3 of all the games to bring up.
zaitsu
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Wow, nothing.
These will be launch exclusive to Xbox consoles when the Series X launches in November.
phat_crazy
Member
It only seems terrible because most of these titles are unknown or seem uninspiring
The Falconeer and the Medium have a potential to be good games
Bright Infinite Memory has the potential to be good as well
They could all also turn out terribly but let's see how they are reviewed by critics and users
Where is Scorn?
I thought that released this year?
The Falconeer and the Medium have a potential to be good games
Bright Infinite Memory has the potential to be good as well
They could all also turn out terribly but let's see how they are reviewed by critics and users
Where is Scorn?
I thought that released this year?
phat_crazy
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y'all can play that on your hot, loud ass jet engine PS4s with snail pace load times while I enjoy my quiet and cool PS5 with almost instant load times and ray tracing
fight scene...load screen...cinematic...load sceen
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darkangel-212559
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Fair enough. I agree with what your saying. Back on topic, The Medium is genuinely why I'm picking up an Xbox Series X on launch alongside the PS5.
I think Bloober teams past psychological horror games (my favourite genre and one I badly miss from the PS2 golden era of horror games), have all shown great potential but all have had flaws holding them back from true greatness. As an aside I think Observer is criminally underrated and I'm absolutely on board for Observer redux on day one. It's one of my favourite horror games of this generation.
This all makes The Medium something that I was really already on board though. Bringing in the composer of the OG SH games just absolutely cemented that game as a system seller for me. I'm such a huge fan of the classic Silent Hill games that that was more than enough to bring me on board.
alabtrosMyster
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You can't fit existing games in a "launch day" list... The expression loses all its sense.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Sure you can. They are enhanced just like Spiderman.
Phrixotrichus
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Doesn't magically make them next gen though......
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
It makes them next gen enhanced.
CityHunter1981
Member
They can make the tagline of the XBOX Series X for the Christmas season: XBOX, swimming in 7s.
Really underwhelming lineup. Microsoft clearly put all their hopes in Halo. But they are at fault here for just trusting in the developer and putting a blind eye on it, until they realized that it was mediocre at best and needs much more time. I mean you don't just hire a new project lead, if just the graphics need to be improved.
Sony's lineup has good potential, but Spider-man looks a little bit like more of the same (which can also be a good thing). I have the highest hopes for Demon Souls, but it needs to be seen if Bluepoint was able to perfectly convert the fighting system and feeling.
Really underwhelming lineup. Microsoft clearly put all their hopes in Halo. But they are at fault here for just trusting in the developer and putting a blind eye on it, until they realized that it was mediocre at best and needs much more time. I mean you don't just hire a new project lead, if just the graphics need to be improved.
Sony's lineup has good potential, but Spider-man looks a little bit like more of the same (which can also be a good thing). I have the highest hopes for Demon Souls, but it needs to be seen if Bluepoint was able to perfectly convert the fighting system and feeling.
Its funny the games I think are best of the launch holiday besides cyberpunk are the smaller studio titles kena, the ascent, falconeer and medium. Kena would totally steal the launch if not for the vocal souls heads I think it will be the best original exclusive for either.
Melchiah
Member
Not to mention, that early on this gen PS4 was called Indiestation, and had no games because indies aren't real games (LOL), but now it's entirely different matter when those indies are timed exclusive to XBX. The change in the narrative is hilariously hypocritical.
mindfreak191
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Bright Memory Infinite is releasing in November? I haven't played the first release yet, only snagged it for $7 on a steam sale because I'll get a free upgrade lol
Funny enough...a "cross gen" game since it came out on WII U at same time and basically got pushed back when it was originally supposed to release in 2015 not 2017. Im currently playing it though and having a good time
StreetsofBeige
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1. Gears Tactics
2. Bright Mem or CrossFire X (need a shooter)
3. Ascent
The rest, meh. Maybe I'll check out Medium.
2. Bright Mem or CrossFire X (need a shooter)
3. Ascent
The rest, meh. Maybe I'll check out Medium.
zaitsu
Banned
Medium won't be on launch.
These will be launch exclusive to Xbox consoles when the Series X launches in November.
djjinx2
Member
Title says holiday launch?
yurinka
Member
I tried to split the list in groups:
NEXT GEN ONLY STUFF
Indie next-gen only console exclusives made by a single guy
- Bright Memory (previously available on PC)
- The Falconeer
Next gen only multis
- Haven
- Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition *
CROSS-GEN AND REFURBISHED PREVIOUS GEN STUFF
Indie cross-gen console exclusive
- RPG Time: The Legend of Wright
Series X version of already existing previous gen console exclusives
- Forza Horizon 4
- Gears 5
- Gears Tactics
- Ori and the Will of the Wisps
- Sea of Thieves
Crossgen multis / refurbished already existing previous gen multis with same next gen improvements in PS5 & same free/paid upgrade option in PS5 where available
- Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla
- Dirt 5
- FIFA 21
- Fortnite
- Madden NFL 21
- Maneater
- NBA 2K21
- Marvel’s Avengers
- Samurai Shodown
- Tetris Effect: Connected *
- Watch Dogs: Legion
- WRC 9
- Yakuza: Like a Dragon **
- Observer: System Redux
** = Timed exclusive for next gen consoles. Already available for PS4 in Japan, will be released in the west on PS4, XBO, Series X|S at the same time, and for PS5 later, in March 2, 2021.
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alabtrosMyster
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Sure... That doesn't make it right, try to make the argument without pointing fingers.