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Do they have any comparisons of multiplat games released this year? All of these games are years old.
Probably since I bolded the part where I clearly stated he was wrong?Yet you failed to understand that again when highlighted.That can't be played on another consoleThat can't be played on another consoleThat can't be played on another console
Surely my comprehension is failing,
Which multiplatform games released this year after July? (when Sony added ps5 BC compatibility to the SDK)Do they have any comparisons of multiplat games released this year? All of these games are years old.
You seem to be failing.Probably since I bolded the part where I clearly stated he was wrong?Yet you failed to understand that again when highlighted.
Maybe this can help ?
But can you lick my controller?....
*** plays some Barry White in the background and tone down the light ***
...Slowly.
Listen to me and please take your time, if this was voice chat I would've spoken slower.The user you were talking to claimed MM was a ps5 exclusive do we agree on that ?You seem to be failing.
That can't be played on another console, but I’m done with this nonsense.
Im just going to pretend he was talking about Demons Souls since that’s the actual only PS5 exclusive (for now.)
I have no idea honestly, I just wonder if the difference here is because (as already suggested) this is CPU bound, and am curious if they added something to the PS4 SDK that allows them to detect the PS5 and use the actual SSD architecture instead of the CPU.Which multiplatform games released this year after July? (when Sony added ps5 BC compatibility to the SDK)
And ruin the surprise ?Hey...I am not that type of guy.
Gotta add whip cream.
Lol.. this post won’t age well.
No goalpost shifting here. If you knew a little about how some code behave when running on a fixed hardware, you would know that this is the result of PS5’s BC mode «emulating» a ps4. Some games would probably handle the full speed of the ssd, but many wouldnt. Thats why the ssd is held back in BC mode for compatibily reasons. If you dont believe me, thats fine, just wait for the native games comparisons for both systems.Based on what? Look, people wanted to see proof in data of games on both systems to see how they would perform on them. We're getting that now. But for some folks, these aren't the results they wanted, so the goalposts are being shifted instead of just saying "yeah, it is what it is here", and being open to it either staying that way or shifting back the other way when other points of comparison come about.
This is what's called an emotional response, not a logical one. It's a bit striking considering people were waiting on objective data and now we're finally getting some, but it doesn't fit what they wanted to happen. There's nothing wrong with giving results their due, it doesn't suddenly mean the other solution is inferior. I wouldn't even be surprised if there are some BC games PS5 loads faster, we just have to wait for results to prove that (and hopefully they are honest results).
That wouldn't suddenly mean Series X's solution is poor, but I have a feeling some people here would try shifting the entire meta discussion into that framework hinging it all on a few examples favoring PS5, then putting those examples on a pedestal and being the only valid ones...or something.
I don't know why this tribalistic mentality when it comes to consoles is still a thing
Basically this.
When people called out Penello as a MS shill.
But i said he doesnt work for MS anymore. He worked for Amazon recently. He still have insider friends.
Also check the comments. BC loading isn’t as clear cut at it seems. PS5 loading that game is way faster.
Even if they have 1 or 2 seconds delay on the PS5, the point still stands.
PS5 is not faster loader those games with a faster SSD.
Based on what? Look, people wanted to see proof in data of games on both systems to see how they would perform on them. We're getting that now. But for some folks, these aren't the results they wanted, so the goalposts are being shifted instead of just saying "yeah, it is what it is here", and being open to it either staying that way or shifting back the other way when other points of comparison come about.
This is what's called an emotional response, not a logical one. It's a bit striking considering people were waiting on objective data and now we're finally getting some, but it doesn't fit what they wanted to happen. There's nothing wrong with giving results their due, it doesn't suddenly mean the other solution is inferior. I wouldn't even be surprised if there are some BC games PS5 loads faster, we just have to wait for results to prove that (and hopefully they are honest results).
That wouldn't suddenly mean Series X's solution is poor, but I have a feeling some people here would try shifting the entire meta discussion into that framework hinging it all on a few examples favoring PS5, then putting those examples on a pedestal and being the only valid ones...or something.
I don't know why this tribalistic mentality when it comes to consoles is still a thing
LOL.Batman: Arkham Knight (2015)
Destiny 2
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:41:39 00:40:35 Menu to Save 00:17:30 00:11:68
Final Fantasy XV
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Menu to Character Screen 00:50:14 00:34:26 Orbit to the Tower 00:46:58 00:37:27
Monster Hunter World
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:39:06 00:33:12 Menu to Save 00:25:09 00:10:11
Red Dead Redemption 2
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:31:39 00:23:17 Menu to Save 00:13:08 00:06:21
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:30:16 00:26:24 Menu to Save 00:34:35 00:36:26
But the ps5 has a more than 2x faster Ssd as Series X.?? I mean , how?
That will make no difference when the games are limited by how fast the CPU/GPU on PS4 / PS4 BC modes runs.PS5 has USB 3.2 gen 2 USB. This means loading from external USB HDD or SSD should be very fast if using USB 3.2 gen 2 HDD/SSD, and maybe could add a difference when running them on Series X (it has 3.1 gen 1 USB). I assume the type of USB SSD/HDD may
Yup and I think Ps5 will load all ps4 games uninterupted by spash / health or contacting servers in 1 second.
It was said right at the beginning of all this nonsense that the leap above hard drives was much bigger than the leap between the PS5 and the SX.But the ps5 has a more than 2x faster Ssd as Series X.?? I mean , how?
Do you NOT see how stupid that tweet is? Overlock for 10.2 TFs? Like come on guys, don't be a Trump.
Your trolling would be funny and make sense if it was new games. Keep trying though.LOL.
Sony exec: Hey everyone, I'd like to show you that the old Spiderman games loads in only 1 second on PS5. Here's the video.
Gamers: Holy shit. If Spiderman loads in 1 second from a video 18 months ago, just imagine what other games will load in
Reality: The load times are around 30 seconds
It's not hard to understand unless you're deliberately obtuse. A game's loading is only partially determined by the speed of the drive it is on. All these games run in BC mode and are not developed to make the most of the hardware in either console. If you replace a PS4 or Xbox One HDD with an super fast SSD you also don't see a reduction of the loading speed by a factor of 5. I think in the most optimal situation the loading time is halved.LOL.
Sony exec: Hey everyone, I'd like to show you that the old Spiderman games loads in only 1 second on PS5. Here's the video.
Gamers: Holy shit. If Spiderman loads in 1 second from a video 18 months ago, just imagine what other games will load in
Reality: The load times are around 30 seconds
In this case, why when you had a faster SSD or HDD -internal or external- in the PS4 the games did load faster? If they did ran faster there I assume they will do it there.That will make no difference when the games are limited by how fast the CPU/GPU on PS4 / PS4 BC modes runs.
Batman: Arkham Knight (2015)
Destiny 2
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:41:39 00:40:35 Menu to Save 00:17:30 00:11:68
Final Fantasy XV
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Menu to Character Screen 00:50:14 00:34:26 Orbit to the Tower 00:46:58 00:37:27
Monster Hunter World
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:39:06 00:33:12 Menu to Save 00:25:09 00:10:11
Red Dead Redemption 2
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:31:39 00:23:17 Menu to Save 00:13:08 00:06:21
Test PS5 Internal SSD Xbox Series X Internal SSD Launch to Menu 00:30:16 00:26:24 Menu to Save 00:34:35 00:36:26
Well we shall see further.
The initial load times of BC games do not make the tweet seems stupid.
They barely loaded faster though, and in no way proportionate to the speed of the drive. Adding an SSD to the PS4 would save like 10%, not multiple times faster that it should be. Which adds to the fact that there are other factors than the drive itself.In this case, why when you had a faster SSD or HDD -internal or external- in the PS4 the games did load faster?
Well we shall see further.
The initial load times of BC games do not make the tweet seems stupid.
LOL.
Sony exec: Hey everyone, I'd like to show you that the old Spiderman games loads in only 1 second on PS5. Here's the video.
Gamers: Holy shit. If Spiderman loads in 1 second from a video 18 months ago, just imagine what other games will load in
Reality: The load times are around 30 seconds
Remember that a lot of people here insist that DF are sent cheques by MS to rubbish Sony. So funny.
It was 7 seconds from the P5 menu to the game menu and 2 seconds from the savegame load to ingame.My goodness this is embarrassin'
Can't stand "an engineer" hyping the shit out of New tech, bull shittin for hours on the stage and then.....REALITY sets in.
That Spidey leacked video was fake as hell, from a cold boot start 2sec??!!..you goddamn WISH
Amazed that people actually care about this comparison.
Aside from that one line about RDR2 where PS5 is faster by 2 seconds, every other thing is faster on SeX.My goodness this is embarrassin'
Can't stand "an engineer" hyping the shit out of New tech, bull shittin for hours on the stage and then.....REALITY sets in.
That Spidey leacked video was fake as hell, from a cold boot start 2sec??!!..you goddamn WISH
So the two scenarios of loading times were 2 and 7?It was 7 seconds from the P5 menu to the game menu and 2 seconds from the savegame load to ingame.
I don't anyone gets paid by either MS or SONY on DF, but you can be more partial to a Brad or system it's just human nature. That's to overlook how John was wrong about cross gen holding 1st parties back, wrong about no Series X game having ray tracing at launch and now spectacularly wrong over loadings times.
The bolded is the first important note. Plus that's not including firmware updates. Just seems weird that some people can't think rationally on this.
So the two scenarios of loading times were 2 and 7?
Ok. Can't wait to see someone (and someone will do it) see what the real load times are. The going rate on these handful of popular games tested is around 30 seconds.
Thicc, you are smarter than this. That was not an emotional response. It was logical. You know these consoles are coming in hot and will get firmware updates to improve things. Don't be surprised if the load times decrease by 50% or so for PS5 games due to a firmware update.
It's right there in DFs MM review today.
And that's without a day one patch.
I don't anyone gets paid by either MS or SONY on DF, but you can be more partial to a Brad or system it's just human nature. That's to overlook how John was wrong about cross gen holding 1st parties back, wrong about no Series X game having ray tracing at launch and now spectacularly wrong over loadings times.
RDR2 is done by a third party called Rockstar, you may of hear of them. Third party is independent of the console maker just for your information.
So, MS is a $ 43 billion company and the game in question state of decay was done by an MS division called Xbox game studios, and it took about 10 seconds being generous was the demo.
So pick a Sony game studio game for comparson by any sane persons logic. Sony have already stated all ps4 games will load instantly, do you want the link ? Might be slowed by game studio start screens if its utouched of course and may contact servers, the usual.
I saw no special load screens on state of decay demo, so xbox game studios did somethiing to remove the usual start up messages and banners allowing a straight up fast loading.
There has been only ps5 demo, it was called spiderman, and it loaded in under a second. I am sure they removed the loading and other start screens as well if thats what you mean.
Sorry I dont have exact time, it wa shard to press the start and stop button fast emough.
If by optimisation, you mean removing all the crap display at the start, then yes both games had that.