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Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Believes There Will Be Fewer Exclusives In The Future, And Not Just For Xbox

Yeah he's right this good guy Phil, why locking a content to one piece of hardware ? They wouldn't do that, like Starfiel... oh shit
Well, until Sony cuts their exclusives out (FF7, FF16, SpiderMan, Wolverine....etc).......then MS will start to do so.
The MP games will stay cross platform. The single player games will not for a while. MS needs SOME exclusives to bring new players in.
 
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Elios83

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Yeah he's right this good guy Phil, why locking a content to one piece of hardware ? They wouldn't do that, like Starfiel... oh shit
Of course it's the usual disingenous bullshit from him, he even stole the "safe kids" line from Jim Ryan :messenger_tears_of_joy: 👀
Each company will continue to release games on the platforms that make strategical and financial sense to them.
They bought full publishers and studios to be able to have exclusives on their own ecosystem and services :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
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Ezquimacore

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Fredrik

Gold Member
So will MS. He's just whispering sweet nothings again because he needs approval while doing the opposite.
Yeah maybe. But he has expressed his dislike in exclusives in the past as well. I think Starfield and The Elder Scrolls exclusivity evolved from Xbox fans loudly wishing for it and complaning about the unclear message at first after the Bethesda purchase. We’ll see what happens with Doom, it’s a classic IP that Playstation gamers also love, I don’t think Xbox exclusivity would fly well PR-wise.
 

SenkiDala

Member
He said it's
Well, until Sony cuts there exclusives out (FF7, FF16, SpiderMan, Wolverine....etc).......then MS will start to do so.
The MP games will stay cross platform. The single player games will not for a while. MS needs SOME exclusives to bring new players in.
Yes absolutely, it's a business and Phil is doing is part. And they are right to keep some games exclusives. But pretending to be the good guy all the time with sentences like "if everybody plays everybody wins" is being pathetic, he's just ridiculous, so what about people believing all this marketing bullshit...

And people answering "you can play on android and iOS and Apple Watch and the fridge and connected tv and my ass", come on... 1) xCloud is alright to play some games some times if you don't have another way to do so at the moment, but it's not at all a decent way to play them, I've a 1gb symmetrical connexion and the quality is not acceptable. 2) You can play PS4 since 10 years like this, same with the PS5 now, ok it's not exactly the same but the result is the same, not acceptable, just good if you wanna farm in a JRPG while you're in holidays.
 

DarkMage619

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Did you not read the comment I was replying to for context?
Did your comment make reference to Phil saying all games on Xbox would hit every other game console or is it possible he was speaking of specific cases? Seems to me he was talking about playing games together like cross play. Why would a single player Starfield game have cross play as mentioned earlier? Let be honest there are far more MS titles on other consoles than vice-versa.
 

KyoZz

Gold Member
He is? They just spent 75 billion dollars and are making previously multi-platform series exclusive. Sony is doing the same, albeit to a less extent.

Seems the opposite of obvious to me.
I get your point but Xbox + PC. That's two plateforme. Not to mention XCloud.
Not releasing on Playstation doesn't mean you are making an exclusivity.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
Of course.

I mean, even Jim Ryan was crying not that long ago that only few million players are experiencing "amazing" games like TLOU2.

And he is sure as shit not increasing that numbers when that games will be Playstation only...
There's no doubt in my mind that Sony will be releasing games on PC day and date with console at some point. They'll realize that having millions more potential day 1 software customers on PC will be less risky than counting on customers being able to buy a PlayStation console. If console hardware by itself was their primary source of revenue then it would make more sense to focus on growing install base. But it's not, software attachment is. So exploiting the PC install base is a smart move. Sure, they'll lose some console sales but if those people are still buying the games on PC day 1 it ultimately won't matter.
 

yurinka

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Well Sony said that even if Bungie games will be multiplatform even in rival consoles day one, PS Studios will be making more PS exclusive games in the FY that ends in 2026 than in the current one. Jimbo also said in the context of being asked about 3rd party support that they plan to have more exclusives on PS5 than in any other of their previous consoles. And well, I don't see Nintendo making games for other consoles or PC.

I assume Phil is talking only about Xbox console exclusives.

He is? They just spent 75 billion dollars and are making previously multi-platform series exclusive. Sony is doing the same, albeit to a less extent.

Seems the opposite of obvious to me.
According to MS, Phil and their CFO they don't buy them to make their games exclusive.

But instead to grow their GP catalog securing the support of these companies puttting all their games there day one. Their main goal is to grow GP and turn it into the Netflix/Spotify of the videogames, not to 'steal' market share to favor Xbox in the console wars.

They also need to keep selling in these rival platforms because their market share is huge. According to what MS said to regulators it wouldn't be a profitable business for them to turn them console exclusive.

There's no doubt in my mind that Sony will be releasing games on PC day and date with console at some point. They'll realize that having millions more potential day 1 software customers on PC will be less risky than counting on customers being able to buy a PlayStation console. If console hardware by itself was their primary source of revenue then it would make more sense to focus on growing install base. But it's not, software attachment is. So exploiting the PC install base is a smart move. Sure, they'll lose some console sales but if those people are still buying the games on PC day 1 it ultimately won't matter.
According to Sony they don't plan to release all their games on PC and they don't plan to release them day one.

It makes sense because 1st party game sales are a very small portion of their business. The main one is to sell 3rd party games for their console/game store. To sell hardware, accesories and services for that console is also a huge business for them way bigger than 1st party sales. They won't destroy their main business just to sell a few more copies of their games on PC, which is a way smaller business.

For them makes more sense to port to PC only some of their games, not all. And to do it years after their original release on PS once the game completed its sales cycle there and has been included in their game sub too. At that point where the game almost no longer generates more revenue, iit's a good secondary extra for them to put it in game subs and PC. Did it in this way doesn't negatively PS hardware and software sales. To do it with all games and day one very likely would.
 
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Infamy v1

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Hes 100% right. Xbox has console, PC, mobile and xCloud. Sony has console and are finally following along with PC.

I guess Nintendo is an outlier but they won't be matching MS/Sony in marketshare, anyway. Not that it matters as they're in a league of their own with their 1P games.
 
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Unfortunately, if you're unwilling to buy a second console or a gaming capable PC, that's the only viable option. Do Sony or Nintendo offer some better alternative if I don't want to buy their console but want to play their games?

They are the console industry leaders. What is your point? They don't need to offer an alternative, people are very happy to buy their consoles. Obviously. This is not that complex.

Eventually Phil may have a point. But this, at this point in time, is just PR. It's meaningless. What else would he say? He's the guy who has doubled down (more than anyone else) on non-exclusivity, and his company is in last place. Of course he's going to comment on how the paradigm is changed... he's desperately hoping it changes!

It's not happening anytime soon, that should be really obvious.
 
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Three

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I get your point but Xbox + PC. That's two plateforme. Not to mention XCloud.
Not releasing on Playstation doesn't mean you are making an exclusivity.
So what's changing "in the future" with regard to PC+xbox releases? MS have been doing PC releases since 2014.

CoD, Elder scrolls, Doom, etc have always had a PC release. He is clearly talking about console exclusives by the platform holders and mentions Playstation by name. He is not saying he will release more games in a xbox + Pc combo in the future. He has been doing that for years.

He is talking in the context of the Activision acquisition and its games not becoming exclusive.


"Gaming chief also hopes for fewer exclusive titles, more interoperability among consoles in the future"
"Spencer, who has pledged to make Call of Duty available for the rival Sony PlayStation at least for some period of time, said the idea of games made exclusively for one device “is something we’re just going to see less and less of.
Maybe you happen in your household to buy an Xbox and I buy a PlayStation and our kids want to play together and they can't because we bought the wrong piece of plastic to plug into our television,”

People are just contorting that so that it makes sense to them why what he is saying isn't what he has done for some of the other games by saying "but it's on PC". Yeah, it always has been. That's not what he's talking about.
 
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Infamy v1

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So what's changing "in the future" with regard to PC+xbox releases? MS have been doing PC releases since 2014.

CoD, Elder scrolls, Doom, etc have always had a PC release. He is clearly talking about console exclusives by the platform holders and mentions Playstation by name. He is not saying he will release more games in a xbox + Pc combo in the future. He has been doing that for years.

He is talking in the context of the Activision acquisition and its games not becoming exclusive.

"Spencer, who has pledged to make Call of Duty available for the rival Sony PlayStation at least for some period of time, said the idea of games made exclusively for one device “is something we’re just going to see less and less of.
Maybe you happen in your household to buy an Xbox and I buy a PlayStation and our kids want to play together and they can't because we bought the wrong piece of plastic to plug into our television,”

People are just contorting that so that it makes sense to them why what he is saying isn't what he has done for some of the other games by saying "but it's on PC". Yeah, it always has been. That's not what he's talking about.

Sounds like wishful thinking, which is hilariously contrasted by the next line in bold. Not surprising that this is how your brain reads this.
 

Three

Member
Sounds like wishful thinking, which is hilariously contrasted by the next line in bold. Not surprising that this is how your brain reads this.
Not surprising that you're stanning as usual

"Gaming chief also hopes for fewer exclusive titles, more interoperability among consoles in the future"

Not my fault you don't understand the context at all and probably inferred whatever you liked.
 
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They are the console industry leaders. What is your point? They don't need to offer an alternative, people are very happy to buy their consoles. Obviously. This is not that complex.

Eventually Phil may have a point. But this, at this point in time, is just PR. It's meaningless. What else would he say? He's the guy who has doubled down (more than anyone else) on non-exclusivity, and his company is in last place. Of course he's going to comment on how the paradigm is changed... he's desperately hoping it changes!

It's not happening anytime soon, that should be really obvious.
Nintendo will never change, but Sony has already proven Phil Spencer right with their new initiatives in the past 2 years. You can already play some of the biggest PlayStation studio games without owning a PlayStation console and Sony continues to integrate studios into their portfolio who are experts at porting games to the PC platform. It wont be long before games franchises like Uncharted, SpiderMan, TLoU, God of War, etc release day and date on PlayStation consoles and PC...probably once Sony's PC storefront is fully functional and online.
 

solidus12

Member
It’s amazing how the narrative changes. At first it was exclusives are the bread and butter of the industry and that each platform holder should have its own exclusives. Now it doesn’t make financial sense and exclusives are dying… get your narrative and stick to it, you experts.
 
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Jaybe

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Phil’s position is the result of Xbox One being decimated last generation when it was the most important generation to win with paid online by all parties and much higher didgital purchases locking users to a digital catalog.

I can’t fault him. The moves to embrace PC and cloud are right given they are far back in third place.
 
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Infamy v1

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Not surprising that you're stanning as usual

"Gaming chief also hopes for fewer exclusive titles, more interoperability among consoles in the future"

If you read his direct quote, you clearly see he is talking about crossplay, Minecraft, CoD, etc. It's obvious as day. Your shill brain, instead, reads it as all ABK titles will not be exclusive and that's what he's getting at. Despite Microsoft deliberately saying the opposite (select, popular, whatever verbiage they continue to use that you ignore).

He's 100% right with the "devices" talk. Sony, as well, have talked about going more multiplatform.
 

Leyasu

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Well Sony said that even if Bungie games will be multiplatform even in rival consoles day one, PS Studios will be making more PS exclusive games in the FY that ends in 2026 than in the current one. Jimbo also said in the context of being asked about 3rd party support that they plan to have more exclusives on PS5 than in any other of their previous consoles. And well, I don't see Nintendo making games for other consoles or PC.

I assume Phil is talking only about Xbox console exclusives.


According to MS, Phil and their CFO they don't buy them to make their games exclusive.

But instead to grow their GP catalog securing the support of these companies puttting all their games there day one. Their main goal is to grow GP and turn it into the Netflix/Spotify of the videogames, not to 'steal' market share to favor Xbox in the console wars.

They also need to keep selling in these rival platforms because their market share is huge. According to what MS said to regulators it wouldn't be a profitable business for them to turn them console exclusive.


According to Sony they don't plan to release all their games on PC and they don't plan to release them day one.

It makes sense because 1st party game sales are a very small portion of their business. The main one is to sell 3rd party games for their console/game store. To sell hardware, accesories and services for that console is also a huge business for them way bigger than 1st party sales. They won't destroy their main business just to sell a few more copies of their games on PC, which is a way smaller business.

For them makes more sense to port to PC only some of their games, not all. And to do it years after their original release on PS once the game completed its sales cycle there and has been included in their game sub too. At that point where the game almost no longer generates more revenue, iit's a good secondary extra for them to put it in game subs and PC. Did it in this way doesn't negatively PS hardware and software sales. To do it with all games and day one very likely would.
Selling 3rd party games is profitable for Sony but not Microsoft? Some games they will keep multi, but not many. Unless you think they are just going to hand sony the market and 30% of everything they earn.

Seriously, your posts are just like a fanboys wetdream
 
According to MS, Phil and their CFO they don't buy them to make their games exclusive.
Except they're doing exactly that. Starfield was being made for PS4/PS5 previously.

If he's saying that they won't do that, it's just to help get the Activision deal approved. Just like Sony says Call of Duty is the end-all videogame and Microsoft says Call of Duty is just another game.

Quit listening to what these companies say and start watching what they do.
 
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KyoZz

Gold Member
So what's changing "in the future" with regard to PC+xbox releases? MS have been doing PC releases since 2014.

CoD, Elder scrolls, Doom, etc have always had a PC release. He is clearly talking about console exclusives by the platform holders and mentions Playstation by name. He is not saying he will release more games in a xbox + Pc combo in the future. He has been doing that for years.

He is talking in the context of the Activision acquisition and its games not becoming exclusive.


"Gaming chief also hopes for fewer exclusive titles, more interoperability among consoles in the future"
"Spencer, who has pledged to make Call of Duty available for the rival Sony PlayStation at least for some period of time, said the idea of games made exclusively for one device “is something we’re just going to see less and less of.
Maybe you happen in your household to buy an Xbox and I buy a PlayStation and our kids want to play together and they can't because we bought the wrong piece of plastic to plug into our television,”

People are just contorting that so that it makes sense to them why what he is saying isn't what he has done for some of the other games by saying "but it's on PC". Yeah, it always has been. That's not what he's talking about.
Not my fault if PC is getting all the games. Sony loves PC now and Microsoft is dedicated to this platform too. That's it.
Anyway, well see what the future is holding but imo in 20 years we will have a VERY different gaming market, that is for sure.
 
This is yet another boon for multiplayer that single player misses out on.

People really need to wake up to what's happening.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Not my fault if PC is getting all the games. Sony loves PC now and Microsoft is dedicated to this platform too. That's it.
Anyway, well see what the future is holding but imo in 20 years we will have a VERY different gaming market, that is for sure.

Sooner than that, I think. Ultimately these guys answer who stockholders and they don't give a shit about console wars. Once the multiplat revenue starts flowing there is no going back.

All the more reason to keep CoD exclusive to Xbox/PC.

Well, they are not "keeping" CoD exclusive to Xbox/PC since it never has been and MS already said they not going to.
 
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Neofire

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He is right because the number 2 largest corporation in the world is campaigning to get rid of exclusives on their gaming console and their competition and once that happens MS will be the only ones left with the capital to release consoles, whether they bring profit or not.

Everything will be more than likely subscription based with micro transactions galore.
 
I think we very well may be seeing the beginning of the end of console exclusives.

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How are you guys coming to this conclusion? Is Uncharted going to Xbox? Halo to PlayStation? Zelda to both?

We are getting more console exclusives with all these publisher acquisitions, not fewer.

PC is a different story.
 

reinking

Member
Did your comment make reference to Phil saying all games on Xbox would hit every other game console or is it possible he was speaking of specific cases? Seems to me he was talking about playing games together like cross play. Why would a single player Starfield game have cross play as mentioned earlier? Let be honest there are far more MS titles on other consoles than vice-versa.
No. You are looking for a war where there is not one. I was mearly pointing out that it was not unreasonable for someone that had commented to think that Phil was talking about consoles since he used consoles as the example. I'm covered no matter where they put Starfield.
 

Three

Member
Not my fault if PC is getting all the games. Sony loves PC now and Microsoft is dedicated to this platform too. That's it.
Anyway, well see what the future is holding but imo in 20 years we will have a VERY different gaming market, that is for sure.
I have nothing against PC releases and think they're great, the point is that they have always been doing PC releases since 2014. what he is referring to is less and less console exclusives existing in the future with interoperability. The likes of Cod and Minecraft, MS owned IPs on multiple consoles. It's in the context of the Activision deal.
 

Infamy v1

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what he is referring to is less and less console exclusives existing in the future with interoperability. The likes of Cod and Minecraft, MS owned IPs on multiple consoles. It's in the context of the Activision deal.
He is talking in the context of the Activision acquisition and its games not becoming exclusive.

'In the short term, "some people in some companies" won't love this approach, Spencer said, without singling anyone out. But in the long run, Spencer sees a future with fewer platform exclusives in it'

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Can't even read the OP correctly
 
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Three

Member
'In the short term, "some people in some companies" won't love this approach, Spencer said, without singling anyone out. But in the long run, Spencer sees a future with fewer platform exclusives in it'

🤡

Can't even read the OP correctly
🤣🤡

He is talking about Sony and Nintendo resisting the multiplatform interoperability approach for their games. You can't honestly be thinking that means they don't like Minecraft on their platform. Get lost man.
 
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