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[buenoblue]

Not even close. We're living in a golden age where there is something for everyone. Fidelity and production values are through the roof. I'm gaming on pc and ps5 on a 4k 75 inch tv, this is the future.

I mean have you forgot about the trash on the Wii, the licenced cash ins on the 16 bit consoles. Hell I heard the other day that in the 70s and early 80s over 700 pong clone consoles were released.

I've bin gaming over 40 years now and if your willing to invest in the tech modern gaming can be marvel to behold!

What exactly were these older games that were so great when you were young? I guarantee if you return to them now they were not seem quit so amazing.

 

[Cornbread78]

Nope. Cancel culture and keyboard warriors have made gamers more entitled than ever and they have limitless online platforms to bitch about anything and everything through their keyboards....

 

[ntropy]

Nope. Gaming has more to offer more than ever. You're just cynical.

single player games, GO

 

[EDMIX]

I wouldn't say gaming is ruined but I have definitely seen better days in gaming.

Games didn't come in basic, plus or ultimate package
Developers dared to think out of the box
No sjw bullshit in games and pandering to lunatics of a certain forum
No rushed yearly cashcows
No unneccesary multiplayer
So games as a service or as a walking and exploring simulator etc
Games were not censored and dared to be more explicit


Just examples

I disagree greatly.

Understand that the same developers that existed then, many of them exist right now.

What you seen in regards to what you think is better and gaming is simply a subjective idea.

A lot of the companies that existed back event to make games are still making games and a lot of genres that we got back events still exist right now and I would argue some of them in even greater quantities than decades prior. So I would say stuff like concrete genie and no man's sky very much is thinking outside of the box. Pandering even if you want to argue it exists right now you have no fucking evidence that it didn't exist before because a lot of those same people making games right now made games before lol ohhhhh NOW they want it in the game but never before? Some imaginary law stopped them from doing it before? Fear Effect is literally a PlayStation 1 game with a lesbian couple so I'm sorry buddy but if that game released in 2021 as a brand new property that you never heard of before you would have just said the same fucking shit that it must be "pandering".

We still had yearly cash cows with sports games.

We had tons of unnecessarily added multiplayer portions in games simply to have co-op when that was the big fucking craze during the PlayStation 2 generation.

You are basically arguing about the implementation of technology not being used as frequently because of how internet worked with those consoles back then but the reality is if the PlayStation 2 and GameCube or even 64 or PlayStation 1 at Internet capabilities equivalent to the Xbox you would have 100% scene multiplayer added just like you're seeing it shoe horned in some games today.

So I'm not arguing with you if these things are okay or not..

I'm simply telling you the companies that fucking exist today did a lot of the same things back then even to make money as they are doing today in the developers that could have implemented some sort of pandering shit in their games back then would still do the same thing today

you're not talking about some brand new idea here lol

If something like Myst release today you would argue it's a walking simulator and example of how bad gaming is "today".....

Games were not censored? nah bud, I would argue M rated games had a massively uphill battle decades prior then they do today.

So I think you might want to clearly look at that history...actually look up those games from 25 years ago. So you can effortlessly release an M rated game right now today that's not going to be on the front page of every fucking newspaper in America.

So if you want to release a AO rated game, you can do that today. If you want to make a game about SJW...you can do that today, If you want to make a game about anit-SJW...you can do that today. If you want to make a game about some VR shit..you can do that today, Kickstarter exist and many platforms exist to even jumpstart some project. Many platforms exist to support indie titles to make what the fuck you want. So i greatly, greatly disagree. We are at a point where at NO OTHER TIME IN GAMING someone is able to fucking make what they want.

Stop crying about something that literally can exist by you literally forming a team and kickstarting the very thing you are saying gaming is missing. The ability to do that alone goes against this idea that we seen "better days". I'm not saying I hate MGS1 or 2 or I hate Ico or Shadow Of The Colossus or hate Sonic 2 or any shit like that, I'm saying a market exist today where those games can still exist, digital or streamed or kickstarted or in VR or with MP or as a MMO etc. They literally have more ways to factually exist NOW, then they did 2 decades ago.

As if no patches, updates, limited online, no kickstarter, less independent teams etc was just GREAT for gaming back then.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Gaming is great, there are so many amazing games coming out regularly, just as before. Plenty of turds out there too, but there always has been.

You just grow old.

There are plenty of old fart gamers who completely devalue your take.

 

[The Hamburglar]

I don't get it? If I was a kid right now. I would be playing R rated games anyway. Back when we were kids you could play kiddie kid games as well as hard shit like ghouls n ghosts.

 

[Naked Lunch]

Can you imagine being forced to work on that game?
Shit is embarrassing.

 

[Iced Arcade]

reminds me of my dad bitching about rap music when his parents bitched about him listening to rock music

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Society is collapsing. You can either care or play videogames. I advise the latter.

 

[Daymos]

I think people who complain about modern gaming are focusing too much on popular western games. I've found alot of japanese games are still centered in ps1 and ps2 design.. which many people would scoff it, but I think it makes for a refreshing break from open world ultra-realistic gaming. Simple concepts like having fun linear gameplay and a great story.. to go along with ugly ps3 graphics, which I don't care about at all.

 

[NahaNago]

We have a lot of good games releasing just not great games. Plus we have a ridiculous variety of games nowadays so you can find a decent one if you really look.

 

[Gaelyon]

Gaming is great, there are so many amazing games coming out regularly, just as before. Plenty of turds out there too, but there always has been.



There are plenty of old fart gamers who completely devalue your take.

I'm an old fart gamer. I'm fifty, my first console was an Atari 2600 back in '81 and i've never stopped playing video games since. I fully agree with your statement. People who talk about the good old days of gaming and despite the current state of gaming are just getting old in their mind. There's a great choice of games from many styles, you just need to play something else than AAA games for diversity. Like for movies, blockbusters cost too much to take a risk.

 

[EDMIX]

You can literally buy porn games on the worlds biggest digital game storefront. All your other points are mostly just jaded opinions. For ever 1 game that you dislike that has those things, there's 15 other games released.

This 10000%

I'm 32 and will be 33 in the next few months. Gaming during the SNES/Genesis, PS1/N64, PS2 generation etc has shown that great games can exist if the hardware exist. Me LOVING Metal Gear Solid 3 or Persona 3, doesn't mean that if Kojima made Metal Gear Solid 3 today with today's hardware, that I would like it any less. It would have ray tracing, a dense ass jungle, online that actually worked lol Someone can have an idea and seek to make it into game more efficiently today then in any other time in gaming.

So I still love Yakuza series, the tech today allows it to be AMAZING just like I loved it during the PS2 days. I loved horror titles back then, today they are able to exist in a greater number now that kickstarter is a thing and indie titles get attention too and digital exist so we are not out here spending $400 for Rule Of Rose lol

Amazon.com: Rule of Rose [Japan Import] : Video Games

Amazon.com: Rule of Rose [Japan Import] : Video Games

www.amazon.com

If released TODAY where thru digital it could continue to fucking live on, it would move more units, likely continue as a series and clearly have more options.

Its not saying someone can't like a game from 20 years ago, its saying that TODAY if that game could be made, it has VR as an option, digital as an option, streaming as an option, online MP or CO-OP as an option, kickstarter to obtain its funds and the team can remain independent in the process. Anyone arguing that 20 years ago is better for gaming has no clue what they are talking about. They are basically saying the have a fetish for Crash Bandicoot or something. Like they can't actually see gaming today offers the same and MORE opportunity then what was offered 20 plus years ago.

Look at Sonic Mania.

Sonic Mania Has Sold One Million Units Worldwide, Plus Version Release Date Confirmed

Sonic Mania Plus Will cost $4.99 / £3.99 if you own the original

www.nintendolife.com

So we can stop pretending that being in 2021 magically means games from 20 years ago can't be made today or something. I don't get this weird idea that suddenly a game developer has lost their rights to create fun games or something lol.

If OP feels this way, make your own fucking game that doesn't have the things you hate in gaming today.

Kickstarter it while complaining about new shit in gaming (ignoring the format of kickstarter itself giving that opportunity to create what you want thru multiple platforms)

 

[Dampf]

Yeah. Gaming is dead.

 

[Old Retro]

Fucking never! Even during the crash of 1983, arcades were still lighting it up, and Atari games were $2-$6. Consoles have always had shitty, uninspired games and even the best developers lay an egg once in a while. Even though I have said it's been the same thing since the PS2 with better graphics, gaming is a medium that can only get better.

 

[AV]

Hey remember when this came out nearly 40 years ago?



It's very easy to cherrypick shitty videos games from literally any year and fall over ourselves proclaiming that gaming is shitty "now". Gaming "dies" every year and has done for decades.

 

[Corgi1985]

Shittier than ever. Enjoy your 97 hero shooters that all have the same art style or the latest AAA 3rd person action game that plays the same as uncharted did 10 years ago. If that doesn't sate you, there is always the endless shovelware on the eshop. Also pokemon sword if you want to firmly establish what the bottom of the barrel is for an RPG

 

[Carna]

The same people complaining about how old op is getting: SONIC MANIA ONLY GOOD SONIC GAME IN 25 YEARS BECUZ MY HECKIN NOSTALGIA-RINO!

Edit: I wish we had more modern games like Tales of Berseria

 

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[NeoGiffer]

 

[Raonak]

Gaming is in a golden age. There's near limitless variety and games for every type of person. AAA blockbusters, multiplayer centric, indies filling in all the genre gaps, and revivals of classics.

Microtransactions are the only annoying thing. If a game is free then fair play, but why out it in a paid game.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Gaming for me is fucking awesome. Microsoft will have their best generation ever in this industry with Xbox Series X and give me 20+ console exclusives while Sony will give me around 15+ console exclusives and then, if I add in all the multi-platform games, this generation is going to most likely be my personal best of all time. Platforms, publishers, developers, etc. that I have no interest in, I simply ignore so it all works out great for me.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

 

[The_Mike]

check the latest memegame to try to replace the likes of Flawguys, Among Ass, Minicrap, Animal Flossing, Fortnap, Craplox and the likes...

I thought "hm I only know among us"from this list until I noticed the boomer correction of the titles.

Not knowing the titles at first felt like

 

[Gamerguy84]

Trying to find current gen hardware has become an RPG in itself. From GPUs to consoles.

I'm still waiting for next gen experiences not just resolution bumps. That and we need hollow decks like Star Trek teased.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Gaming is still definitely good, but I don’t think we’re in what some people would consider the “golden age”. Imo, I think the talent isn’t as prevalent as it was back in the day and greed is worst than ever.

Of course there are still a lot of good games available and the variety is pretty good, but to me a healthy amount of games feel like manufactured products instead of expressions of art. Things like DLC, microtransactions, season passes, broken games, paying for online, DRM, politics, incomplete games, etc prevent this era of gaming from being the golden age.

 

[Balducci30]

Games are objectively better than they’ve ever been I feel like - just the result of technical progress

 

[Laptop1991]

Yes it has, and i don't think it's age related, especially since online games make so much money now with mtx now, the focus switched from fun to profit, in the last 5 years i've played no more than 1 or 2 new games a year at most and the time between a new TES or GTA game is ridiculous, why, because the online version's make so much money. (meaing ESO in place of TES),

I've only played Valhalla in the last 6 months, and that's full of bugs, but the store works fine.

 

[JimboJones]

I'd take this over another "Souls like" game to be honest

 

[Zannegan]

There have always been and always will be crappy games, movies, books, etc.--especially aimed at kids--and they will ALWAYS outnumber the good releases. Until the day that GAAS hamster wheels get so popular that they choke out all other options--which I doubt--I'll just keep buying and enjoying what I like and not worry about it.

Let the kids play their games. As long as I continue to have more games I want to play than time to play them, I'm content.

 

[BaneIsPain]

You're not the target audience OP.
Feel free to ignore the game.

 

[Sidney Prescott]

Gaming is still definitely good, but I don’t think we’re in what some people would consider the “golden age”. Imo, I think the talent isn’t as prevalent as it was back in the day and greed is worst than ever.

Of course there are still a lot of good games available and the variety is pretty good, but to me a healthy amount of games feel like manufactured products instead of expressions of art. Things like DLC, microtransactions, season passes, broken games, paying for online, DRM, politics, incomplete games, etc prevent this era of gaming from being the golden age.

I definitely feel this. It was nice to know in the past that games were 'complete', I do agree with that. Of course there is still many games out there that are finished products, but a lot of them come out with the promise of updates 'later'. They don't feel finished, like Cyberpunk. I really am not a huge fan of that.

 

[namekuseijin]

I hate seeing people enjoying things I don't. /s

people enjoying eating poo doesn't make it any less disgusting

 

[MagnesG]

Looks fun

 

[Guilty_AI]

people enjoying eating poo doesn't make it any less disgusting

coalas eat their mother's poo in case you didn't get it

 

[namekuseijin]

less multiplayer shooters than i'd like but otherwise plenty healthy albeit saturated

there's basically something for everyone on steam

unfortunately, that something for everyone is 99% lesser clones of classic games. worse, clones of clones

as for new games, whatever you guys think about XCom or whatever being at its primetime: it doesn't have a 10th of the popularity of those memegames I listed up there. So when things like Diablo mobile happen, you don't get that they're trying to go after those huge crowds

SMB NES was kid's game back then - and as popular as those today. Compare that in challenge or the ingenuity of level design to these idiotic generic sandboxes and you'll quickly realize that going after lowest common denominator is going to hurt gaming in the long run. Expect to lose more than just Diablo. Expect more Bugsnax and less AAA.

 

[e&e]

There are probably more games released per month than entire generations worth of consoles back in the day; so relatively, no. Gaming is the best it has ever been, so much awesome free shit my young self could only dream of. And I don’t even have time to play all the free shit now, sometimes only finishing 1 or 2 games a year!

 

[Danjin44]

people enjoying eating poo doesn't make it any less disgusting

 

[DaGwaphics]

Microsoft and Xbox.... every day they make it less enjoyable.

Get their cancerous tentacles in there good and fill everything with MTX, battlepasses, lootboxes, subscriptions of every flavor, online fees, rental fees, buy out studios to coerce people to buy into their shitty platform......

Recommendation, don't look at Sony earnings breakdown for the gaming division... it will be painful for you.

 

[Kerotan]

I loved the games I played as a kid but I'm sure I'd love today's games just as much. I can only imagine how addicting I'd find online games.

 

[DaGwaphics]

I'll try not to be as negative, but I do think the industry has lost a lot of variety in comparison to the Xbox/PS2 era. There is a lot of content available in the indie space, but the AA content isn't there like it had been. Devs are so much more worried about taking risks on new IPs, etc. Xbox/PS2 was the golden age, you had the big budget AAAs but publishers also released tons of AA content (in budget) that could still hold its own in appearance and length.

 

[ConanTheKing]

I was worried clicking on this topic that everyone would be spouting "Back in my day..." but I am glad to see that is not the case. Gaming is epic, Smash Bros never looked so good, had so many modes and had so many fighters. There's no way things are going downhill.

 

[manfestival]

Gaming started dying in 2007 when PC gaming died.

 

[Croatoan]

Cute, sorta like bernie...and his policies.

 

[Nocturno999]

That game looks pretty cool and I am an old dude.

 

[Croatoan]

Gaming started dying in 2007 when PC gaming died.

Yeah, it was awesome back in the day when we could game on PCs. Now they are only good for porn, memes, and gaf.

 

[A Most Virtuous Cat]

Completely agree. Just look at the creativity and heart in games pre 1995 to 2012 and compare it to what we are getting now. Mindless, soulless games which have politics and SaaS monetization higher on their priority list than anything else.

 

[Sidney Prescott]

You’re right but the lesser known titles are lessrt known for a reason - they’re usually not good. When I think about all the games that I used to enjoy, there are no equivalent games for those today.

I used to feel this way, but a lot of it comes down to nostalgia. No new game is ever going to touch that sweet spot your first favourite game left. Those gaming moments are special, and are unlikely to be matched.

I know for a fact I have played better games on PS4 than I ever did on PS2, but I often don't believe that.

The younger generation of today will look back on current gen games and they will think all those games they used to enjoy can't be matched.

 

[Ikutachi]

Yes. I content myself with randomizers of retro games.

 

[BattleScar]

check the latest memegame to try to replace the likes of Flawguys, Among Ass, Minicrap, Animal Flossing, Fortnap, Craplox and the likes...

seriously take a look at the shitload being fed to kids these days and compare to games you played as a kid

can we say without a shadow of doubt we've been going seriously downhill?

now I'm sad for the whole weekend, thank you YouTube ad

Spoiler

Did you completely forget about the piles and piles of absolutely shite shovelware games released throughout the generations? The internet and online communities has just made more of it visible.