Hawking Radiation
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If the software is there, YES. When I say software I mean compelling AAA games (aka system sellers).
If not, fuck off.
If not, fuck off.
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Would you pay an additional 100$ for a PS6
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EverydayBeast
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We need to focus on this gen! - Sony
Backwards compatibility with every previous gen would be terrific, and would replace a lot of consoles hooked up to a tv.
Backwards compatibility with every previous gen would be terrific, and would replace a lot of consoles hooked up to a tv.
SoloCamo
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Yup. The longest run I had was from my Oct 13th 2013 AMD 290X gpu (launch day) to 2019. I've gone through multiple gpu's since (RX580 8gb, Vega 56, Vega 64, Radeon VII and now a 6900XT). CPU's are typically the same way for me. Went from a FX-8120 to FX-8350 to FX-9590 (gifted mind you for the 9590) and then said screw it and picked up a 4790k and paired it with cl10 ddr3 2400mhz. That cpu took me to 2020 when I swapped it for a i9 10900 and the only reason for that is that I've played at 4k since 2014 so I'm almost always gpu bound. I've since repurposed my 10900 as a server and upgraded to a 11900k for better single core perfance and pci-e 4.0. Picked up a good z590 + 11900k both brand new a while back for barely over $300 from Newegg.
Long story short the ability to just plop in a new part is amazing. I reused the same case + psu from 2014 to 2023 so it's not nearly as expensive to upgrade as people make out. A lot of parts are reusable build to build.
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sendit
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I don’t disagree. I’d prefer a 4 year cycle. 1-2 years would be pointless for any meaningful upgrades.
German Hops
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shit, I'll pay an extra $100 for a PS5 Pro.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
What do you mean "additional"?
I didn't know there was an universal msrp for a console?
In any case, PlayStation is already way cheaper than they could be sold at. Proof is that PS5 was being scalped for a thousand dollars. Sony CAN sell it for more. Sony deliberately made it cheaper because they make more money in the long run having more install bases. Scalpers took advantage and siphon off the price difference. So the entire point of the thread is meaningless, we already know the answer.
1. Gamers will be willing to pay more
2. Sony would rather NOT make you pay more, so they can make more money in the long run.
I didn't know there was an universal msrp for a console?
In any case, PlayStation is already way cheaper than they could be sold at. Proof is that PS5 was being scalped for a thousand dollars. Sony CAN sell it for more. Sony deliberately made it cheaper because they make more money in the long run having more install bases. Scalpers took advantage and siphon off the price difference. So the entire point of the thread is meaningless, we already know the answer.
1. Gamers will be willing to pay more
2. Sony would rather NOT make you pay more, so they can make more money in the long run.
TronNerd82
Member
I still haven't even gotten a PS5 yet, so I'll have to get back to you on that.
SiegeDamage
Neo Member
I'll pay an extra $200 if it's a huge step up from the PS5.
playsaves3
Member
The ps6 wouldn’t be more expensive than the pro it would be the opposite if anything the pro is what I can see as high as 700 but the ps6 would be max 600Realistically it's gonna be 100 more for PS5 Pro and 200 more for PS6.Everything depends on the specs. I'd pay more if the performance boost was signifcant and my PS5 couldn't handle running new games on decent settings.
playsaves3
Member
Is your gpu as strong as the rumored gpu for the ps5 pro?
playsaves3
Member
What if it’s 10x more powerful than the ps5 instead of the expected 7-8x
0neAnd0nly
Member
The b/c proposition is an interesting one, but certainly loaded and specific.
Right now - if Sony (and whoever else) treats the next gen like they do this one (barely any exclusives, lacking of major graphical / gameplay improvements, continued increased investment in GAAS) then probably not. I like my ps5 but to say I’m disappointed in this generation as a whole (as in, not exclusive to Sony) would be an understatement. The switch, even with its short comings compared to its counterparts - is the only console that felt like a new idea and pushed former boundaries. Ps5/ XB?, have sorely felt like they have been coasting. I will not invest in a 6 if that is the same course of action next time.
B/C would be an awesome selling point though, even if I do still own all the old consoles haha.
Crayon
Member
It's a 6600xt so it's short of a PS5 but can play almost anything well enough at the moment.
I don't know what the rumored gpu is, but I'm hoping the PS5 pro is good. I might be interested if games start to strain the normal one.
playsaves3
Member
The pro is expected to be equal to or 5% above the 7800xt in pure raster but probably be almost a 4070 in rt. Though if you take the cpu rumors it will be bottlenecked to death
Crayon
Member
If that's true then that sounds like a worthwhile bump in hardware depending on the price. It would be down to the games then. We've seen performance modes in some games that look ratty so if that gets more common then pro might be a good buy.
As for ray tracing, I think it's fascinating but really most implementations are still underwhelming. Maybe that could finally be changing but we'll see.
Fox Mulder
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It’ll probably be $100 more just with inflation
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rdna 3 has infinity cache and ada increased l2 cache substantially for performance gains, consoles normally stay away from huge caches for pricing reasons. What exactly are people expecting in this gpu for these kinds of improvements without big cache upgrades? Secondly the difference between a 7800xt vs 4070 in RT goes from about equal in light/single effect RT implementations to upwards of like 70% in heavy things like cp/aw2/p2. Those heavy games also use the shader execution reordering feature on ada for 20-30% gains. I'm not seeing where your going to get these increases if your only adding bvh accel hardware without the other things ada brought.
If these perf rumors are true AMD should not be skipping high end with rdna4 that's for sure.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And maybe even more than inflation if they want to bank margin. Consoles for Sony and Ms aren’t profit makers like Nintendo. And Sony is in margin making mode.
So you never know. Even a $700 system might just be a $500 in disguise with $100 for inflation and $100 profit per unit day one.
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thebigmanjosh
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If there’s a discernible jump in PQ and graphics (e.g. 120hz, 4k, better ray tracing, etc) then I’d pay up to $700 for one. If it’s a marginal upgrade or devs don’t support it, I’ll pass on the pro like I did last gen.
TropicanaTwista
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Do you mean a PS6, with a $100 add on with this BC or do you just mean $100 over the price of a ps5? I would probably pay a 100 more for a ps6, as long as it seems like a somewhat fair price with specs/other features. I don't give a shit about BC though. I honestly hope Sony doesn't waste time trying to develop a solution for that, for multiple reasons:
1) I don't care to play my older games. I VERY rarely play a single player game after I beat it. Wayyyy too much to play in terms of newer games to care about that.
2) I really rather not go back to discs. I did buy the PS5 with a disc drive and literally have not used it once. Hell I don't even know if it works lol. Digital is so much more convenient, especially as there doesn't seem to be any good deals for disc based games anymore. RIP to best buy gamers club.
3) as someone who has owned every playstation, I barely have any disc based game pre PS3 anymore. So 2 generations is essentially useless in this scenario. Then to go of go back to my last point, all of my ps5 gamers are digital and about half of my ps4 games are too. It leaves me far too little options.
4) It would probably jack up the price for not a good reasln. I say this as someone who got a launch ps3, mainly due to BC. I used it 2 times throughout the entire gen.
In short, BC is just a waste of time. Create some new dope shit instead of playing old games please.
1) I don't care to play my older games. I VERY rarely play a single player game after I beat it. Wayyyy too much to play in terms of newer games to care about that.
2) I really rather not go back to discs. I did buy the PS5 with a disc drive and literally have not used it once. Hell I don't even know if it works lol. Digital is so much more convenient, especially as there doesn't seem to be any good deals for disc based games anymore. RIP to best buy gamers club.
3) as someone who has owned every playstation, I barely have any disc based game pre PS3 anymore. So 2 generations is essentially useless in this scenario. Then to go of go back to my last point, all of my ps5 gamers are digital and about half of my ps4 games are too. It leaves me far too little options.
4) It would probably jack up the price for not a good reasln. I say this as someone who got a launch ps3, mainly due to BC. I used it 2 times throughout the entire gen.
In short, BC is just a waste of time. Create some new dope shit instead of playing old games please.
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yanhash
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playsaves3
Member
The reason I said rt is expected to be near 4070 is because it’s using rdna 4 rt tech not 3
playsaves3
Member
I think this gpu upgrade is near the upper end of what I was expecting (the best I was expecting was a 7900xt and this wouldn’t be that far off) but this upgrade won’t be that great if the cpu rumors are true I hope it’s zen 5
existensmaximum
Member
I would pay an additional 100$ for a machine that actually has exclusive games, optimized for the hardware.
Spyxos
Gold Member
Yes it would be interesting, but then it would depend on the games.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Yes. Won’t really have any other choice for dedicated home console. I expect it will be $600-$700. What’s the only other option, a Xbox? lol
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playsaves3
Member
I brought it up as a scenario to see if that would get you to pay the extra 100
cinnamonandgravy
Member
make it a limited edition hardware-based "legacy" playstation (support for all playstation gens via hardware, not software) and ill pay $10k.
Games of Today
Member
It's still mind boggling how they don't do this. Legacy game sales would immediately jump higher than they currently are.
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playsaves3
Member
Exactly where i am
Everytime I almost did they announced game is coming to PC and I'm like oh.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Yep. The ceiling for next gen is probably at least $200 higher than this gen based on that alone.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The best thing for conaole makers to jack up prices is just the general inflation trend. It makes no difference if a product line got nailed by inflation or not. Just tow the line and most people will just go with the flow and believe it is just.
Our company has raised prices on stuff for years. Sometimes it's justified as ingredients, packaging and shipping have gone up. Some stuff has barely cost more, but we increase anyways because we know market conditions people are accepting price increases, so might as well join them. Retailers are a-ok with it because they jack up prices too and customers buy. Most retailers have had giant sales and profits since covid hoarding, so their view is a 180 compared to before covid.
Before covid, trying to push through a price increase can be 6-12 month negotiations and the end result can be they still say fuck off or they say "Ok, we'll accept a 2% increase". Thats it.
But since covid hoarding, just about every retailer has accepted price increase with almost 100% pass through..... TO YOU THE CUSTOMERS. Yup, part of the price increases all you guys are paying isn't suppliers pushing through cost hikes. It's the stores just going with the flow and passing it on you after jacking it up more increasing their sales, profits and margin. They arent fighting for you anymore trying to keep costs down with lengthy pricing discussions. They greenlight that shit fast now in totality.
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