Paulistano
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They want to sell new shinny tvs.
I have an explanation. It's because it depends on what you're limited by. The two things are separate.Nobody has explained anything meaningful, im still waiting for a proper explanation.
In some games (OPS example) you get less things on screen too.- small downsampling or native res in performance (60fps) options
There is no downside really, AT WORST you get native res in performance options.
OP wants fidelity mode, where you get more objects on screen, but at 60fps 1080p. This option doesn't exist. Performance RT still has a lower object count than fidelity mode. OP essentially wants to sacrifice resolution for more objects on screen which isn't possible.I don't understand OP's post?
Both Ratchet and Miles Morales have Performance RT modes, where you sacrifice resolution for ray tracing and 60fps. It's literally made for people with 1080p TV's.
In some games (OPS example) you get less things on screen too.
Yeah, exactly. I've mentioned this above.Yes, but that have more to do with CPU limitations most likely, CPU has to do 2x more work in 60FPS modes.
Yeah, exactly. I've mentioned this above.
Is the RT CPU bound? I thought performance RT sacrifices resolution for RT when compared to performance mode. I haven't looked at what the average resolutions are between performance and performance RT to be honest.Yep. What's interesting is that they have (way?) more CPU power available in non RT performance mode yet they went with parity in this aspect.
Is the RT CPU bound? I thought performance RT sacrifices resolution for RT when compared to performance mode. I haven't looked at what the average resolutions are between performance and performance RT to be honest.
What? For 1080p/60...
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"We have a product called Xbox Series S".
Just on this point I would totally disagree. Without doubt the majority of people (excluding your friends) with a next gen console will be using it on a 4K TV. No question.Mate most people with ps5 and series x still have 1080p tvs I have like 10 friends who still have 1080p tvs with nextgen consoles
Op has a solid point and alot of people are not really grasping what he's saying. There's a ton of 1080p tvs out there. A mode that gives the full graphical effects and draw distance at 60fps, only at 1080p is a great idea.
My 4k Samsung tv upscales 1080p far better and looks sharper than 1440p upscaled by the consoles themselves so I'd probably use a mode like this.
Do you think that maybe… just maybe… enthusiast gamers might have a different distribution of 4K vs 1080p displays to grandparents and casual cable TV watchers?Aren't 4K TVs like, only 30% of the overall market? Most are still rocking their 1080 sets.
He told you why. 1080p is dead. Move on.Doesnt need any time doesnt take any time just need to unlock the frame rate in fidelity mode at 1080p but they just arent doing it. And I dont know the reasons why!
Yep, there are also games above 1080p. So I think it'll be a 1080p console more or less for the majority of its lifecycle.Aren't there games below 1080p in 60fps modes on XSS?
I couldn't find the annual sales breakdown of 4K vs. 1080P, which would heavily skew towards 4K, but penetration of 4K TVs is already over 50% and growing faster than estimates expected several years ago. And that is all homes, those who own videogame consoles are (logically) likely to be an even higher percentage.Aren't 4K TVs like, only 30% of the overall market? Most are still rocking their 1080 sets.
Unless you're holding on on a Kuro plasma or a good Panasonic plasma (or even a native 1080p widescreen CRT), there's no rational reason for you to stay with a 1080p panel.If they let me run games at higher settings at 1080, I'd probably prefer to play on a 1080p TV and never upgrade. In fact, were my TV to finally die, I might even seek out another 1080 set if they were no longer available in a store.
In other words, the mode you're talking about wouldn't align with Sony's business interests, so because eff you that's why![]()
Not when you have switch which is sub 720pThey aren't going to put any time into 1080p in 2021, nor should they. That shit is long past it's prime.
I see, the info I got was outdated by like 2 years.I couldn't find the annual sales breakdown of 4K vs. 1080P, which would heavily skew towards 4K, but penetration of 4K TVs is already over 50% and growing faster than estimates expected several years ago. And that is all homes, those who own videogame consoles are (logically) likely to be an even higher percentage.
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4K TV will be in half of U.S. homes by end of 2019
The consumer adoption rate of 4K television sets blew past last year’s expectations, climbing to 25% of U.S. households by January 2018, according to the Consumer Technology Association (CTA)…www.tellusventure.com
It doesn't make sense to waste additional resources on specific settings on a minority and shrinking television market.
Unless you're holding on on a Kuro plasma or a good Panasonic plasma (or even a native 1080p widescreen CRT), there's no rational reason for you to stay with a 1080p panel.
Newer panels beat the shit out of older ones. Response time, color accuracy, VRR, better panel tech (from OLED to miniled and up to microled).
Even the best 1080p only display on earth will end up getting murdered from newer panels, eventually.
I'm genuinely curious to know why you're saying that (I still have my 1080p panny plasma in another room, and still really like its image).
ESO is doing this with their next gen patches next week. Both 30/ 60 FPS modes with high and ultra PC settings. But you only get 60 at 1080p.
its*They aren't going to put any time into 1080p in 2021, nor should they. That shit is long past it's prime.
Probability because market, maybe with AMD s new scaling tech they will do it reasonably well
Some people said they could not notice the difference between DVD (480p) and 1080p blue ray... Then from 720/900p to 1080p as well.I'm sure most people playing on a TV at a certain distance wouldn't even notice the difference between 1080p and 4K if we didn't tell them, but will still defend 4K with their lives.
Yep. pure 1080p with simple smaa looks like shit. Check out bloodbrne... it looks tragic in 2021 on 48" tv in my face.They aren't going to put any time into 1080p in 2021, nor should they. That shit is long past it's prime.
you probably don't have a new shiny tv if you say that or do not play close to it.They want to sell new shinny tvs.
Yep. pure 1080p with simple smaa looks like shit. Check out bloodbrne... it looks tragic in 2021 on 48" tv in my face.
1080p IS possible but only with state of the art reconstruction and other techniques
you probably don't have a new shiny tv if you say that or do not play close to it.
There is no way that your Samsung TV upscaling gaming content from 1080p to 4K looks better than PS5 games which render at 1440p and are upscaled to 4K. At the same rendering resolution, I’d say sure, if it’s an expensive TV it might be slightly better than the console’s naive upscaling (but not better than something like Insomniac’s temporal injection), but there’s no way that it looks better than the next gen consoles running at a higher rendering resolution.