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VGC: PS5 is biggest console launch ever in UK

ethomaz

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How the hell was that list of games weak? (YES, THEY LAUNCHED WITH THE CONSOLE OUSTIDE OF JAPAN).

I give up. Some of you are too far gone. Don't bother replying, we are going in circles.
I took my time to make a sheet to explain it... let's see if you understand.

H1: Up to August 2000 (PS2) or May 2021 (PS5).
Y1: Up to Feb 2001 (PS2) or Oct 2021 (PS5).

* I did not listed all games for Y1... just the ones launched in until Oct 2000 to match the US launch of the console.


 
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I took my time to make a sheet to explain it... let's see if you understand.



24 of the 28 PS5 launch games are available on the previous generation console.

So technically, the exclusive PS5 launch line-up looks more like this:

Astro's Playroom
Bugsnax
Demon's Souls (Remake)
Godfall
 

ethomaz

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24 of the 28 PS5 launch games are available on the previous generation console.

So technically, the exclusive PS5 launch line-up looks more like this:

Astro's Playroom
Bugsnax
Demon's Souls (Remake)
Godfall
Do you want I list the games available in others platforms on PS2? The cross-gen too?
You won't like it.

PS5 launch lineup is superior to PS2 by a long shot... I believe only if you are a fighting game fan will find the PS2 better.
 
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24 of the 28 PS5 launch games are available on the previous generation console.

So technically, the exclusive PS5 launch line-up looks more like this:

Astro's Playroom
Bugsnax
Demon's Souls (Remake)
Godfall

Bugsnax is also on PS4
 

mckmas8808

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24 of the 28 PS5 launch games are available on the previous generation console.

So technically, the exclusive PS5 launch line-up looks more like this:

Astro's Playroom
Bugsnax
Demon's Souls (Remake)
Godfall

You don't believe what you're saying right now.
 

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Every gen we hear "This is the last gen, there's not gonna be consoles anymore, it's all gonna be cloud based" and every gen consoles get more and more popular. No real gamer ever wants to touch cloud streaming garbage.
 
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I'm really impressed with the performance of the PS5 so far. Dem' 9 teraflops are punching way above their weight.


PS5 is the

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...Bring on the second gen iteration of the console, so that I can join the hype train with the rest of you guys :messenger_beermugs:.
 

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Another boring generation with PS5 dominating the Home Console market. Let's start discussing about PS6 VS XBox series XX.
Kidding aside, a very good start for PS5.
 

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What were first day sales? 24hrs? Curious. I know they sold out but what would the figure be?
 

ethomaz

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Yes, I do. Make the list.
From the launch games.

PS2 only when launched.
• A-TRAIN 6/A6: A-RESSHA DE IKOU 6
• ETERNAL RING
• RIDGE RACER V
• STEPPING SELECTION
• STREET FIGHTER EX3
• KESSEN
• FANTAVISION
• SWING AWAY GOLF/GOLF PARADISE
• Q-BALL BILLIARDS MASTER/POOL MASTER/DOUKYU BILLIARD MASTER 2
• DRIVING EMOTION TYPE-S

Croos-platform/Cross-gen/Remake/Remaster
• DRUMMANIA
• I.Q. REMIX+: INTELLIGENT QUBE
• TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT
• DEAD OR ALIVE 2/DEAD OR ALIVE 2: HARDCORE

No info found
• KAKINOKI SHOGI IV
• MAHJONG TAIKAI III
• MORITA SHOGI
 
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mckmas8808

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Another boring generation with PS5 dominating the Home Console market. Let's start discussing about PS6 VS XBox series XX.
Kidding aside, a very good start for PS5.

I'm sure this is why many in the American media is pushing for GamePass, Stadia, and Luna to be a huge success. I think some talking heads are just bored of Sony's success.
 

ethomaz

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Another boring generation with PS5 dominating the Home Console market. Let's start discussing about PS6 VS XBox series XX.
Kidding aside, a very good start for PS5.
You know the next Xbox name is...

Xbox Series One X
Xbox Series One S
 
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Considering all consoles are sold out doesn’t this just come down to how many were produced and available?
 

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It’s all about games folks.. PS5 did great because it has the best launch lineup in PlayStation history.
Looking at the 1st year exclusives, I'd say it will have the best 1st year line-up (and sales) ever in gaming history, not only PlayStation.

Considering all consoles are sold out doesn’t this just come down to how many were produced and available?
Yes

Could it be those people who said PS5 would sell over 200 million may have been onto something, or is this just an anomaly?
Launch aligned PS4 is outselling the PS2, the best selling console ever that sold ~155M.

PS5 fixed some issues PS4 had, started with a way bigger userbase from previous gen and a great BC to make easier the transition, its rival will release all their 1st party game on PC and way 'cheaper' because even will be included in a subscription there, so the people who will buy the rival due to exclusives this time will be way smaller. Multis look as of now pretty similar in both consoles but in PS5 have the extra of shorter loadings (soon with Oodle Texture should be even shorter) and extra features like the gamepad ones.

PS5 launch games outsold the PS4 and looking at the 1st year games line-up (specially to the PS exclusives) seems very likely that the 1st year sales of the console will be way stronger than the 1st year PS4 sales.

So if PS4 outsells that ~155M and PS5 outsells PS4 it wouldn't be too crazy to think PS5 may reach 200M or at least to end somewhere close.

Why isn't it adding up?

Supply issues are relative to their desire to supply even more PS5s than they could at launch, nothing to do with the production process or expectations of the PS4.
Both Sony and MS said they shipped all the units they could produce, and couldn't produce more units. So sales are constrained by production. With both consoles sold out worldwide -PS5 get sold out in a few minutes when a new retailer had more stock- it's pretty clear that if they were able to produce more units they'd sell them.
 
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From the launch games.

PS5 only when launched.
• A-TRAIN 6/A6: A-RESSHA DE IKOU 6
• ETERNAL RING
• RIDGE RACER V
• STEPPING SELECTION
• STREET FIGHTER EX3
• KESSEN
• FANTAVISION
• SWING AWAY GOLF/GOLF PARADISE
• Q-BALL BILLIARDS MASTER/POOL MASTER/DOUKYU BILLIARD MASTER 2
• DRIVING EMOTION TYPE-S

Croos-platform/Cross-gen/Remake/Remaster
• DRUMMANIA
• I.Q. REMIX+: INTELLIGENT QUBE
• TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT
• DEAD OR ALIVE 2/DEAD OR ALIVE 2: HARDCORE

No info found
• KAKINOKI SHOGI IV
• MAHJONG TAIKAI III
• MORITA SHOGI

Thanks (y)

I just wanted to see if you'd actually do it.

What a hill to die on :messenger_tears_of_joy:

You're the second person to mock this post without actually proving it wrong.
 
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You're grasping at straws to pretend the PS2 actually had many good games at launch, exclusive or otherwise

No. I'm talking about the post you quoted, where I listed exclusive launch PS5 games. You said "What a hill to die on". I just was wondering what your issue with it was. Aside from listing Bugsnax, it was correct. No hill dying necessary.

(Also, that guy was wrong, Tekken Tag was exclusive to PS2 at Western Launch. The Arcade machine doesn't count).
 
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No. I'm talking about the post you quoted, where I listed exclusive launch PS5 games. You said "What a hill to die on". I just was wondering what your issue with it was. Aside from listing Bugsnax, it was correct. No hill dying necessary.

(Also, that guy was wrong, Tekken Tag was exclusive to PS2 at Western Launch. The Arcade machine doesn't count).

You understand a launch lineup doesn't have to just include exclusives? Hence why he was listing multiplats at the start and you decided to move the goalpost when you realised how shit the PS2 launch line up really was
 
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So they managed to produce more units than previous generations, despite saying that they had supply issues worldwide....

None of this is adding up.

Maybe they just allocated more this go around to the UK...

Xbox said they had supply issues.. Sony likely did too they just planned for it..
As i recall their official statement was that they had produced what they had planned.. That does not mean there weren't supply issues if they planned for low productions.

Those "NEWS" articles produced some huge numbers like 15 million by the end of March, which is absurd.. The realistic number is half that.
 

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You understand a launch lineup doesn't have to include exclusives? Hence why he was listing multiplats at the start and you decided to move the goalpost

I was always under the impression (Going by this forum's reaction to other console launch line-ups) that exclusives were The Absolute.

If I was mistaken, then 🤷‍♂️
 

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Good ratio for Sony, but not unexpected.



Finland, right!?

Paging danielJackson danielJackson

Maybe....I think there were many retailers in Europe that had XSS for a long time after pre-orders went up? XSX sold out instantly everywhere though.

I do know I was hovering over the buy button on Argos for like 3 days for a XSS and only 3/4/5 units were selling a day but then on day 4/5 after pre-orders went live and XSX had sold out suddenly 100+ a day were selling and then they went out of stock pretty quick. It was similar on GAME and JL I think.
 

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People that act like cross-gen games shouldn't be "counted" as launch games SURE didn't feel this way about Halo Infinite. It only counts when the "wrong" team has the better games at launch I guess.
 

ethomaz

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Finally, he conceded.

PS2 remains the greatest launch line-up
Very weak launch lineup on PS2.

PS5 launch lineup is vastly better... not just better than PS2 it is better than any launch lineup Sony had for previous PS systems.
 
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People that act like cross-gen games shouldn't be "counted" as launch games SURE didn't feel this way about Halo Infinite. It only counts when the "wrong" team has the better games at launch I guess.
Xgen titles should rot in Hell. Looks like Sony is ready to bring even the GoW sequel to the Xgen slaughterhouse. For shame, really. Fuck this cross gen shit, give me my Ratchet :(
 

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Xgen titles should rot in Hell. Looks like Sony is ready to bring even the GoW sequel to the Xgen slaughterhouse. For shame, really. Fuck this cross gen shit, give me my Ratchet :(

Both make the most sense. You wouldn't have gotten Spiderman: MM at launch if it wasn't a cross-gen title.
 

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I was always under the impression (Going by this forum's reaction to other console launch line-ups) that exclusives were The Absolute.

If I was mistaken, then 🤷‍♂️

Oh yes, certainly is, but regarding only Sony and Nintendo. Xbox....not so much. Since Xbox community probably don't care about it. So, Phil Spencer acted accordingly to that : launch a console without new 1st party exclusives.
 
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Both make the most sense. You wouldn't have gotten Spiderman: MM at launch if it wasn't a cross-gen title.
And? I had Spidey on PS4, tyvm. I'm not gonna buy a glorified DLC pretending to be a full game.
On PS4 start we got Infamous as a launch title and it was so jaw dropping that people claimed that it was a CGi smoke and mirrors.
I'm not blaming only Sony. Every publisher is playing very safe today. Look at the Ubi offerings. Xgen sequels everywhere. IMO It looks like nobody was ready for the next gen launch this year.
 

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And? I had Spidey on PS4, tyvm. I'm not gonna buy a glorified DLC pretending to be a full game.
On PS4 start we got Infamous as a launch title and it was so jaw dropping that people claimed that it was a CGi smoke and mirrors.
I'm not blaming only Sony. Every publisher is playing very safe today. Look at the Ubi offerings. Xgen sequels everywhere. IMO It looks like nobody was ready for the next gen launch this year.

You're starting to tell on yourself.
 
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Absolutely unreal, considering that retail was shut and all was delivery, and a massive hunk of plastic too.

Well deserved though, the controller is absolute genius, the UI cards are phenomenal, and Demon’s Souls, Miles Morales and Astro Bot are phenomenal. Probably the best PlayStation lineup since PSX
 

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Finally, he conceded.

PS2 remains the greatest launch line-up
My man no PS enthusiast will tell you PS2 had a good launch lineup. Not even a fanboy will.

A user has already posted reviews and it shows that even back then they weren't critically acclaimed. Ridge Racer V was received with a collective meh and fans were disappointed it didn't come close to Type 4. Smugglers run wasn't well received and there's a reason they stopped making them after the second. Only true standout was Tekken.
 

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Bugsnax is also on PS4
And on PC, granted, it's for EGS only, but it's actually a showcase of why Sony sells so well, they know how to advertise the hell out of their consoles and games, everyone is talking about the PS5 and they actually manage to make non-exclusive games seem like exclusives, and they don't mind having timed exclusives, and since the PS1 days, before Xbox was even a thing, they made great relations with developers to get exclusives.

Seriously, so many people act and speak of Bugsnax as an exclusive i actually went to EGS just to see if i imagine Bugsnax also being on PC...nope, it was released on the same day it went to PS4 even, but far less PC gamers talking about it, even people who use EGS.
 
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Away with the fairies
You're saying this generation sold more than the last generation, which sold more than the previous generation, which sold more than...

It's as if gaming is getting more popular and a bigger audience.

Who woulda thunk it.