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Thousands Of Fans Sign Petition To Remake 'Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic'

kretos

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best Star Wars game and one of the best games ever made, a remake would be a dream come true

EA scum hold the rights so probably never going to happen but:

 

Darkmakaimura

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I'd be okay if they didn't.

It'll be the normal mess riddled with a day one patch and half a dozen patches after to get it to function, probably MTX and DLC and idpol bullcrap injected into it.

The original was a classic. But I guess people want to see it with nice graphics and maybe a more interactive combat system but imo I'd be happy if they left it alone, no remakes or film adoptions.
 

Panajev2001a

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The PC port is basically unplayable for me and I've never played the game before. I wouldn't mind even knowing the story for years now.

Xbox Series X or Xbox One would do you good and with a £1 GamePass Ultimate first month you can beat it and its sequel.
 
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klosos

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i would love that , its Bioware in there prime. I would just like it updated to work on modern consoles. a Hi Res Texture pack , Wide Screen support and a few other little bits and we be good.

HK47 is one of the greatest companions in all of gaming period Meatbag

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mcz117chief

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To me it suffers from the same problems that Dragon Age Origins does, it just isn't fun playing it for the second time. It is way too long, the good stuff is very sparse and the gameplay isn't very fun. I recently tried to play it and it just bored me after an hour.
 

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I'd be okay if they didn't.

It'll be the normal mess riddled with a day one patch and half a dozen patches after to get it to function, probably MTX and DLC and idpol bullcrap injected into it.

The original was a classic. But I guess people want to see it with nice graphics and maybe a more interactive combat system but imo I'd be happy if they left it alone, no remakes or film adoptions.

That, and also add a bazillion of fetch or guide quests that all look virtually identical to pad it out to >100hours.
And since it is todays Bioware and not Bioware of 15 years ago, probably add a lot of horse armor and mtx too.

Sometimes it is best to keep old games old games and not soil their memories.
 
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teezzy

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I dont care much for remakes and remasters and all that. Especially not with KotOR, arguably my all-time favorite game ever.

The original graphics and what the artists were able to do with the resources they had at the time are part of the charm. I grew up playing it on Xbox, but later rediscovered it on PC and loved it just as much.

Remakes just feel so much colder especially when you already have love for what the original was. Game is still incredible to this day. No remake please, it's just not the same.
 
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LRKD

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Is there a petition I can sign telling ea not to remake kotor?

People at ea will probably find a way to even fuck up a simple “hd” port. Kotor is easy buy on steam or Xbox anyways and is still a 10/10 game worth playing.

If ea is going to do anything kotor, it just needs to be a new game.
 
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GreyHorace

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To me it suffers from the same problems that Dragon Age Origins does, it just isn't fun playing it for the second time. It is way too long, the good stuff is very sparse and the gameplay isn't very fun. I recently tried to play it and it just bored me after an hour.

I agree with this sentiment but not with the Origins part. I find DA:Origins a much more fun game to replay than KOTOR. The game is built for replayability what with the multiple Origins system.

But back to KOTOR, yeah it was a fun game to play. But going back to it you can definitely see it's showing it's age and not as special as it once was. Especially when you know the twist.
 
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AceVader0

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Wasn't it kind of ported not long ago? I mean, I completed it again on iPhone a couple years ago I think. Although it was still messy and buggy and it crashed often. But I think that was part of the magic of playing KOTOR anyway :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Is there a petition I can sign telling ea not to remake kotor?

People at ea will probably find a way to even fuck up a simple “hd” port. Kotor is easy buy on steam or Xbox anyways and is still a 10/10 game worth playing.

If ea is going to do anything kotor, it just needs to be a new game.

Exactly. I mean, first of all, I think the game has not aged badly at all. I'd say it's completely enjoyable today, as it was back in the day. If they can make a proper port/remaster for 16:9 screens, HDR, new fonts, etc. that would be fine to me. I mean I think they are already going to fuck this up on movies, so let's not add fuel to the fire.
 
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mcz117chief

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I agree with this sentiment but not with the Origins part. I find DA:Origins a much more fun game to replay than KOTOR. The game is built for replayability what with the multiple Origins system.

But back to KOTOR, yeah it was a fun game to play. But going back to it you can definitely see it's showing it's age and not as special as it once was. Especially when you know the twist.
The origins aren't really that interesting thought, just a short prologue.
 

Stilton Disco

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Modern Bioware aren't up to the task, it would be meddled with and altered by both EA and Disney, with the story and characters rewritten to match the dogma of the cult of woke.

A nice remaster with a graphics overhaul and maybe redone controls might be OK, but a full remake would be shite.
 
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JimiNutz

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I tried to play this for the first time ten years ago and the gameplay felt really dated even back then.

Granted I don't like turn based RPGs but I think this would need a huge overhaul in the gameplay department to resonate with anyone other than original fans of the game and the hardcore nerds.
 

Hudo

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Are they even allowed to do it considering the original is not part of the offical lore any more?
Ah, I haven't considered that. Yeah, Disney retconned all the Old Republic stuff and the Extended Universe stuff into being non-canon...
 

AceVader0

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Ah, I haven't considered that. Yeah, Disney retconned all the Old Republic stuff and the Extended Universe stuff into being non-canon...

It was already non-canon to begin with. "Expanded Universe" was a nice way to say "Yeah, go fuck with your toys, but that's not my Star Wars". The last part was literally said by George Lucas.
If anything, now it's more canon than ever. Because Dave Filoni was such a huge fan of Star Wars that he started pulling things from the Expanded Universe, like motherfucking Thrawn. I mean, Darth Bane's force ghost appears on the Clone Wars TV show talking to Yoda!! That's top level fanservice for the Expanded Universe right there.

I've got not doubt we are having Old Republic movies sooner rather than later. Revan is definitely going to show up.
 

TheSHEEEP

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Ah, yes, petitions.

You gotta love how effective they are at achieving something.
 

eyesabitdull

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I agree with this sentiment but not with the Origins part. I find DA:Origins a much more fun game to replay than KOTOR. The game is built for replayability what with the multiple Origins system.

But back to KOTOR, yeah it was a fun game to play. But going back to it you can definitely see it's showing it's age and not as special as it once was. Especially when you know the twist.

Oof, I seriously disagree on DA:O.

But that's mostly due to the fact that I didnt play it properly until last year, and to me, having never played it properly beforehand - that game was rough and janky to me.

I don't know if that game is accessible still to new players by today.

But like KOTOR, which I still can play today, I think its attributed to me having played it as a kid so nostalgia helps despite its aging mechanics.
 
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DelireMan7

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I never played the Kotors games but it's on my list.

And somehow, the appeal I have for them is partially due to the fact they are old games (I like replaying old looking games). So a remake would take part of the charm away for me.
 

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Xbox Series X or Xbox One would do you good and with a £1 GamePass Ultimate first month you can beat it and its sequel.

I think the Xbox versision is non widescreen.. I looked into it and when I saw that it was a hard pass for me. I really need to fiddle with the Steam version to get it working correctly.
 

Panajev2001a

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I think the Xbox versision is non widescreen.. I looked into it and when I saw that it was a hard pass for me. I really need to fiddle with the Steam version to get it working correctly.

Oh, I thought they patched KOTOR2 to support widescreen... but of a shame if they did not :(.
 

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I think the Xbox versision is non widescreen.. I looked into it and when I saw that it was a hard pass for me. I really need to fiddle with the Steam version to get it working correctly.

I can't remember exactly what I did, but I played it two years ago on a Windows 10 machine and it was an easy fix, no hours spent troubleshooting.
 

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I can't remember exactly what I did, but I played it two years ago on a Windows 10 machine and it was an easy fix, no hours spent troubleshooting.

I think there was no easy gamepad support. I think that was my main issue. I managed to fix teh graphical settings but i needed to mess with joy2key and stuff to get it working properly with a gamepad and it never worked correctly. I shoudl jsut bite the bullet and play with M+K
 

AV

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I think there was no easy gamepad support. I think that was my main issue. I managed to fix teh graphical settings but i needed to mess with joy2key and stuff to get it working properly with a gamepad and it never worked correctly. I shoudl jsut bite the bullet and play with M+K

Ahhh, yeah okay. I played with KBM so no idea on that one. KBM works okay for what it is, the KOTOR combat is kinda shit anyway regardless of what you play with.
 

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PLaying it now on XsX with its BC improvements. it plays better to me on Xbox with a controller than on pc.
 
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Kokoloko85

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Once of my favourite games of all time. Worth the OG xbox alone.

Same combat or Remake it Sekiro/ fallen order combat. That would be the dream
 
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Madflavor

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My interest in all things KotoR plummeted when they massacred the Revan character in that book and in ToR.
 

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If I recall correctly the first Kotor game manual had a whole thing on how probability was based on virtual D20s or something which my brain struggled to compute. I may have hallucinated the whole thing.

I would rather they just took the concept and RPG elements and made something new honestly.

I always preferred KOTOR 2 anyway even if half the game was missing, the writing was much better and some of the character revelations were dark in a way Star Wars has rarely been, without being too dark if you know what I mean.

for example your cliched scoundrel pilot Han Solo ripoff plays Pazaak in his head constantly as a meditation exercise to shield his thoughts from Force Sensitive people to hide the fact he used to be part of a Sith Death Squad that went around executing Jedi