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[NEO0MJ]

Do you just guys put your models together before you take them apart to paint them, or do you paint them out of the box after you cut/sandpaper/etc. the parts?

That depends on the modeler and the kit itself. Some like to put the kit together to get a good feel of it and make it easier to paint though with some kits that might make things too difficult as taking it apart might be risky or not possible at all.

Of course I've never painted a kit, at least not successfully.

 

[RangerBAD]

Hmm, I never got that impression myself, *especially* for Char.

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He died still cursing Amuro for killing Lalah, plus his whole plan for freezing the Earth and pushing humanity to space had failed. Maybe Amuro didn't have any regrets but he also didn't seem like he was at peace at the end of CCA either. Neither of them really resolved anything with each other; they were still arguing about newtypes, how to get humanity from point A to B, and their own personal failures.

In any event, the idea is that by Unicorn, Amuro and Char have made peace with each other and have effectively trascendended -- with Lalah -- into some higher newtype plane. That's why they're collectively credited as "Voice" rather than three separate characters. It's not a matter of hanging around because they're still clinging to the earth for whatever reason; they're spiritually and literally above it all now. The part of Char that's in Full Frontal is the piece of him that hadn't given up on his war yet.

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So I guess that means they were all peace then and finally could move onto the afterlife? It still seems like a muddled ending and doesn't even feel like what Tomino would have come up with on the worst of trips. lol Hopefully they can let go of those three in the series and stop dragging up ghosts. It still just fits poorly into existing canon. Not necessarily the Amuro/Char/Lalah thing but the Laplace Box retcon still kind of hurts it. Would be funny if Tomino ignored it or did some other retcon to replace it. Not sure they're saying there's another plane and all that, but the whole thing is starting to feel not complete in faith to the spirit of Gundam. It's never been like this really.

 

[Jaeger]

Do you just guys put your models together before you take them apart to paint them, or do you paint them out of the box after you cut/sandpaper/etc. the parts?

I'm practicing on cheaper kits, but I plan on doing a bit of both. Judging from earlier on what buts are parts can be painted together, or need to be altered prior to assembly.

 

[Blader]

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So I guess that means they were all peace then and finally could move onto the afterlife? It still seems like a muddled ending and doesn't even feel like what Tomino would have come up with on the worst of trips. lol Hopefully they can let go of those three in the series and stop dragging up ghosts. It still just fits poorly into existing canon. Not necessarily the Amuro/Char/Lalah thing but the Laplace Box retcon still kind of hurts it. Would be funny if Tomino ignored it or did some other retcon to replace it. Not sure they're saying there's another plane and all that, but the whole thing is starting to feel not complete in faith to the spirit of Gundam. It's never been like this really.

We're talking about the same Tomino who wrote this, right? :lol

Unicorn's ending isn't probably not too far off the Tomino path, really.

 

[yami4ct]

Do you just guys put your models together before you take them apart to paint them, or do you paint them out of the box after you cut/sandpaper/etc. the parts?

I totally do for quite a few reasons. First, getting a feel for the kit really helps me find the best parts breakdown for me to paint with. Helps me work more efficiently. Second, it helps me find seems/masking that I might otherwise miss. Big reason is the fact that I have very little time/money to paint, so pre-building means I can have a semi-complete product sitting around to mess with until I can get a project going.

 

[Aizo]

Mobile Suit Gundam - The 08th MS Team
Finally finished it. It has some weird pacing issues, and characters that seemed strong at the beginning become pretty lame by the end. Also, that final episode was such a pathetic way to end it. Why did that happen? There were some really fun episodes, and I enjoyed that fight that Zeon ace a lot, but it seems to suffer from some sort of identity crisis--the staff was unable to decide what kind of themes and atmosphere to have.
Overall, I thought it was slightly above average.

 

[yami4ct]

Mobile Suit Gundam - The 08th MS Team
Finally finished it. It has some weird pacing issues, and characters that seemed strong at the beginning become pretty lame by the end. Also, that final episode was such a pathetic way to end it. Why did that happen? There were some really fun episodes, and I enjoyed that fight that Zeon ace a lot, but it seems to suffer from some sort of identity crisis--the staff was unable to decide what kind of themes and atmosphere to have.
Overall, I thought it was slightly above average.

The fact that the director died part way through the making of the series probably explains it's strange tonal shifts at times. Still one of my favorite Gundam series, though.

 

[Jaeger]

Has anyone got any of the Kotobukiya M.S.G. / Frame Arms related merchandise for their kits?

The Unite Sword (after seeing what someone did with it!) really tickled my fancy.

I think I'm about to drop a hundred on just weapon kits, and display bases. lol

 

[Aizo]

The fact that the director died part way through the making of the series probably explains it's strange tonal shifts at times. Still one of my favorite Gundam series, though.

Now I understand.

 

[Enron]

Now I understand.

Yeah. there was a gap of a year or so i think in between episodes at one point.

 

[RangerBAD]

We're talking about the same Tomino who wrote this, right? :lol

Unicorn's ending isn't probably not too far off the Tomino path, really.

Never read it, but I know he's pretty crazy. That's why I'm interested in what he does with his show. I guess his new Gundam might follow up on Gaia Gear. Oh boy.

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Would you consider this reincarnation in Gaia Gear or the same thing that happened in Unicorn? A possession via memories or are they saying that the soul is contained in memories? Now that I think about it's not really reincarnation.

After reading the summary, Gaia Gear seems incredibly tame for Tomino. Considering V Gundam is around the same time, even if V Gundam was a sort of retaliation toward Bandai telling Tomino what to do.

Edit: Just saw that Gaia Gear isn't canonical to Universal Century.

The Zorin Soul is fucking awesome looking at least.

 

[Blader]

Mobile Suit Gundam - The 08th MS Team
Finally finished it. It has some weird pacing issues, and characters that seemed strong at the beginning become pretty lame by the end. Also, that final episode was such a pathetic way to end it. Why did that happen? There were some really fun episodes, and I enjoyed that fight that Zeon ace a lot, but it seems to suffer from some sort of identity crisis--the staff was unable to decide what kind of themes and atmosphere to have.
Overall, I thought it was slightly above average.

08th MS Team really should have just ended with The Shuddering Mountain. The actual final episode adds absolutely nothing to the story, and I know that if I had waited three years to see that, I would have been extremely pissed off about it. :lol

08th is my favorite Gundam though. I don't really see the same tonal problems that you saw, but it has been a while since I last rewatched it.

 

[RangerBAD]

08th MS Team really should have just ended with The Shuddering Mountain. The actual final episode adds absolutely nothing to the story, and I know that if I had waited three years to see that, I would have been extremely pissed off about it. :lol

08th is my favorite Gundam though. I don't really see the same tonal problems that you saw, but it has been a while since I last rewatched it.

There was some heart wrenching stuff there though.

 

[Enron]

There was some heart wrenching stuff there though.

No way, the epilogue was awesome. One of my favorite parts of the series, actually.

 

[RangerBAD]

No way, the epilogue was awesome. One of my favorite parts of the series, actually.

I know it ends on a good note,

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but him losing his leg was a bummer.

 

[Megalosaro]

I know it ends on a good note,

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but him losing his leg was a bummer.

Compared to some UC protagonists, he got off easy.

 

[B.K.]

08th MS Team really should have just ended with The Shuddering Mountain. The actual final episode adds absolutely nothing to the story, and I know that if I had waited three years to see that, I would have been extremely pissed off about it. :lol

I still need to watch the final episode of 08th MS Team. I bought the DVDs when Bandai closed, but I haven't watched them yet. The only time I've seen the series was when it was on Cartoon Network over a decade ago. They didn't show the last episode, so I still haven't seen it.

 

[Ken]

i think i have the 08th ms team vhs, at least for the first ep

it was kind of awkward having people walk in and see that naked girl go for a swim

 

[AdmiralSnackbar]

i think i have the 08th ms team vhs, at least for the first ep

it was kind of awkward having people walk in and see that naked girl go for a swim

I had to cancel my viewing plans during a road trip because of that nonsense.

 

[Retro_]

Gundam Unicorn Episode 4:

Banagher is the fucking worst holy shit

 

[Jaeger]

Just started watching the OG Mobile Suit Gundam (something I've admittedly never done, aside from a compilation film I think), and so far it's awesome.

It's crazy how serious this show is. Episode 1 alone, we've touched on death, and child soldiers, and people struggling to survive in a war no one wants.

 

[Megalosaro]

Yep. First Gundam is definitely a classic. Best cast in a Gundam series for sure.

 

[PaulExcellent]

Apparently, I'll be the owner of an air compressor + airbrush soon.
Pretty dang excited to try it out and learn how to paint them model kits.

Also, after I finish Mobile Suit Gundam, what do I have to watch?

 

[Ken]

Just started watching the OG Mobile Suit Gundam (something I've admittedly never done, aside from a compilation film I think), and so far it's awesome.

It's crazy how serious this show is. Episode 1 alone, we've touched on death, and child soldiers, and people struggling to survive in a war no one wants.

Yeah, I was just recently looking at MGs for the Guncannon, Guntank, and Gundam and want to grab a set of them because of how well the designs still hold up.

 

[enzo_gt]

Why... didn't I think of this idea? Cap and Iron Man themed Gunpla:

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Anyways, thanks for the tips on painting guys. I think I'm going to test out different washes on runners before I paint. Got my Rewaboo in and I think I'll put it all together first so I can get a better idea of what to paint what colour because I can't seem to nail down what kind of colour balance to go with. After spending a week doing mock ups, this is the best I can come up with;

Left is the original (it already looks beautiful) and right is my mock up. Too much gold? Too little? In the wrong places? Would appreciate any suggestions. The paint I'll be using is a metallic sequin black and a metallic gold, and I won't be using those regal stickers; I just couldn't edit over them in Photoshop easily.

 

[Jaeger]

I won this yesterday.

So freaking excited. I've been following this person's work for awhile now, and it just blows my mind each time. Some of the best Gunpla work I have ever seen, and most of the work is MG (my favorite scale to collect Gunpla in).

Now to grab a few extra stuff to make a cool diorama with. I'm loving Frame Arms stuff, and the Modeling Support Goods accessories.

 

[donkey show]

Why... didn't I think of this idea? Cap and Iron Man themed Gunpla:

EDIT: And awwww yiss, my body is ready.

 

[PhiLonius]

Apparently, I'll be the owner of an air compressor + airbrush soon.
Pretty dang excited to try it out and learn how to paint them model kits.

Also, after I finish Mobile Suit Gundam, what do I have to watch?

Z and then ZZ.

Anyways, thanks for the tips on painting guys. I think I'm going to test out different washes on runners before I paint. Got my Rewaboo in and I think I'll put it all together first so I can get a better idea of what to paint what colour because I can't seem to nail down what kind of colour balance to go with. After spending a week doing mock ups, this is the best I can come up with;

Left is the original (it already looks beautiful) and right is my mock up. Too much gold? Too little? In the wrong places? Would appreciate any suggestions. The paint I'll be using is a metallic sequin black and a metallic gold, and I won't be using those regal stickers; I just couldn't edit over them in Photoshop easily.

I got to say I'm liking that Black/Gold color scheme. Can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[Blader]

Gundam Unicorn Episode 4:

Banagher is the fucking worst holy shit

I love Unicorn a lot, but if I had one major complaint about the series, it's that he and Riddhe are enormous losers.

 

[RangerBAD]

Apparently, I'll be the owner of an air compressor + airbrush soon.
Pretty dang excited to try it out and learn how to paint them model kits.

Also, after I finish Mobile Suit Gundam, what do I have to watch?

The Tomino train is just beginning.

You need to watch Z if you haven't already.

 

[dan2026]

I've just started watching Gundam Wing having never really seen a Gundam series before.

I am two episodes in and can't decide if I like it or not. I am in two minds.

 

[Urban Scholar]

I've just started watching Gundam Wing having never really seen a Gundam series before.

I am two episodes in and can't decide if I like it or not. I am in two minds.

...Just keep going

 

[Ezalc]

I've just started watching Gundam Wing having never really seen a Gundam series before.

I am two episodes in and can't decide if I like it or not. I am in two minds.

Stop and start a better Gundam series.

 

[RangerBAD]

Stop and start a better Gundam series.

Some of us were forced to start there in the late-90s. ; ;

it's outright uncanon!

lol At first I didn't realize it was a crossover (just saw Mobile Suit in the title).

 

[Beth Cyra]

I've just started watching Gundam Wing having never really seen a Gundam series before.

I am two episodes in and can't decide if I like it or not. I am in two minds.

Wing has some really good stuff (Treize, OZ suit design, Endless Waltz) and some really bad shit (Heero going from being a unique if creepy lead to his conclusion, pacing and writer changes) but overall id still rate it higher then trash like G, AGE, X, and Destiny.

 

[Jaeger]

I've just started watching Gundam Wing having never really seen a Gundam series before.

I am two episodes in and can't decide if I like it or not. I am in two minds.

You may enjoy it. The mechanical design is top notch in that show, too.

 

[dan2026]

Stop and start a better Gundam series.

And what series would you suggest?

 

[Beth Cyra]

And what series would you suggest?

His avatar is a G Gundam character.

 

[Phanatic8390]

Just finished watching SEED for the first time last night. Overall I liked it, definitely felt like it dragged at some points, certainly took me longer to watch than 0079 or 00.

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My favorite character was Mu La Flaga and I kept having this feeling like he was gonna die throughout the series and the surprise 2nd to last episode it happened . I kinda felt like it was an abrupt ending, with like 7-8 episodes to go like I thought there would be no time to finish this off with how much still needed to be resolved, and the last couple episodes cram some stuff in so much so that there's only like 5 minutes devoted to an epilogue.

So I hear SEED Destiny is pretty rough so I've decided to hold off on diving into that and switch to Build Fighters. I watched the first episode and I can see why it gets so much praise. I have a feeling I'm going to blow right through it and it's probably gonna result in a Gunpla order.

 

[Megalosaro]

So I hear SEED Destiny is pretty rough so I've decided to hold off on diving into that and switch to Build Fighters.

Listen to Amuro. Endure Seed Destiny. It's absolute shit, though it starts off half way decent. After you have completed that abomination, you'll be able to appreciate GBF all the more. It will look genius level compared to what you had just watched

 

[Lostconfused]

There is one thing you can say about Destiny. At least it's not AGE.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Listen to Amuro. Endure Seed Destiny. It's absolute shit, though it starts off half way decent. After you have completed that abomination, you'll be able to appreciate GBF all the more. It will look genius level compared to what you had just watched

Im actually of the mind that the end of Destiny is the better part because of how terrible Shinn is.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

There is one thing you can say about Destiny. At least it's not AGE.

AGE is better than Destiny.

 

[Lostconfused]

No.

 

[MetalFearSolid]

Just finished watching SEED for the first time last night. Overall I liked it, definitely felt like it dragged at some points, certainly took me longer to watch than 0079 or 00.

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My favorite character was Mu La Flaga and I kept having this feeling like he was gonna die throughout the series and the surprise 2nd to last episode it happened . I kinda felt like it was an abrupt ending, with like 7-8 episodes to go like I thought there would be no time to finish this off with how much still needed to be resolved, and the last couple episodes cram some stuff in so much so that there's only like 5 minutes devoted to an epilogue.

So I hear SEED Destiny is pretty rough so I've decided to hold off on diving into that and switch to Build Fighters. I watched the first episode and I can see why it gets so much praise. I have a feeling I'm going to blow right through it and it's probably gonna result in a Gunpla order.

Perhaps you should check out Destiny if your favorite character is who you say it is. Don't get me wrong it is not as good as SEED, but certainly has some interesting moments/characters. Some favorite characters from SEED return of course. Trying to be as vague as possible without spoiling.

 

[donkey show]

AGE is better than Destiny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzacym-6P6g#t=111

 

[strangedopamine]

Im actually of the mind that the end of Destiny is the better part because of how terrible Shinn is.

I laughed at the end of Destiny.

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Seeing Shinn cry when he realised that he had lost and then cutting streight to credits was the best way they could've ended that show.

 

[CorvoSol]

AGE is better than Destiny.

WRONG SIR, WRONG!

Im actually of the mind that the end of Destiny is the better part because of how terrible Shinn is.

Destiny's end is great because of the look on Shinn's face when he realizes he jizzed his pants over

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killing Kira and Athrun

but he actually completely failed to do so!

That's what you get for expecting

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a nuclear explosion

to

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kill Jesus

!

 

[Beth Cyra]

WRONG SIR, WRONG!



Destiny's end is great because of the look on Shinn's face when he realizes he jizzed his pants over

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killing Kira and Athrun

but he actually completely failed to do so!

That's what you get for expecting

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a nuclear explosion

to

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kill Jesus

!

See, I just liked the ending because of Shinn's final fight

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against Athrun. Seriously, the bitch just gets his ass handed to him and I loved every second of it.

I mean Athrun

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Fucking stuffs a Shining Finger, it was so glorious, it made all the pain worth it.

 

[Phanatic8390]

Listen to Amuro. Endure Seed Destiny. It's absolute shit, though it starts off half way decent. After you have completed that abomination, you'll be able to appreciate GBF all the more. It will look genius level compared to what you had just watched

Oh yeah, I've already decided to watch it but I got burnt out towards the end of SEED. It took me almost a month to sit down and finish the last 15 episodes.

I want to jump into something short and sweet then take that enthusiasm right into Destiny.

I've still got 0083, Zeta, CCA, and Wing sitting on my shelf and I'm planning on getting G, F91, and Unicorn at some point. Plus ZZ is streaming, so its not like I'm going to end on Destiny. I've never seen any of them before.

Perhaps you should check out Destiny if your favorite character is who you say it is. Don't get me wrong it is not as good as SEED, but certainly has some interesting moments/characters. Some favorite characters from SEED return of course. Trying to be as vague as possible without spoiling.

Actually I peeked at their wiki entry so I know they'll be back. It's partly why I've decided to continue.