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The English can't catch a break
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I didn't even know this existed! Thanks for the heads up. Going to have to check it out.
replicant-
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What? Fish and Chips isn’t unhealthy. It’s a strong British tradition.
I’ve had F&C from Brighton to Aberdeen and it’s bloody brilliant up and down the country.
Next someone will be critical of the fry up. I had a good one today - sausages, black pudding, bacon, tomatoes and 2 slices of toast and a cup of tea.
JimboJones
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I like a good battered fish and fry up! But it's not exactly what I would call health food lol
replicant-
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yeah, I wouldn’t have it every night lol
Jbomb19
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If fish and chips are healthy then how come I’m not a size zero?! This is bullshit!!!
Zannegan
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Sure, but there's a lot to be said for having a game set in a certain historical period do the bare minimum to actually reflect that period. Where you draw that line of believability is different for each person. *shrug*
For me it just happens to be where the fuzzy wuzzy, family-friendly vikings inv-, er, coloni-, uh, "find a new home" in England while being totally reasonable, rational, and kind to its inhabitants. You wouldn't (and didn't) see anything like this in their portrayal of European Americans' relations with Native Americans in AC3, because that wouldn't fly.
Here though, it's totally fine.
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Tiamat2san
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I’m French, English are our historic enemy, way before Germans .
King Alfred the Great
-Defends his homeland from Viking Savages
-unified England to become one country essentially saving the country
-portrayed as evil and barbaric
The English can't catch a break even in video games
And both don’t know how to make food.
They deserved to be villains in games.
Vive la France! ^^
DrAspirino
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So... it seems the historical rivalry between England and France is still alive and well even these days...Ubisoft are a French company ...they still haven't forgiven us for Sunday, 18th June 1815.
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Bogroll
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Radical_3d
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Historical accurate rivalries are the best rivalries. Too bad neither of those had an empire the size of Spain’s.
INC
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In England, where we speak English, it's called football, so that's what it's called!.........soccer lol
Its football end of
SupremeHoodie
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Who cares what the English say in England. In both the countries that I’m associated with it’s called soccer. So I call it soccer. lol.
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sephiroth7x
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Sorry.
I won't even be civil with this one. It is football. It has a ball and you kick it with your feet. It is football.
I do sometimes believe the pilgrims who left Plymouth purposefully perverted the name of football just to piss the English off. It worked a little too well.
sephiroth7x
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Is this a joke? The British Empire was twice the size of Spain's? Spain have had the first global empire in that they held foreign lands, but the British Empire more than doubled the Spanish...
Radical_3d
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Meh. LTTP.
INC
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Because its our language youre speaking, so its football.
trikster40
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Or is it spot on, and we’ve been lied to by the Templars using the Apple our entire lives?
INC
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And the battle of hastings never happened in hastings either, 1066 is a lie.......
SirTerry-T
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And you realise Soccer is a derivative of "Association football", right? I mean you must do, you're clearly a very clever individual.
SupremeHoodie
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Ridiculous. Football for me will always be Gridiron. I won’t reprogram my brain into calling soccer football just because people in other parts of the world call it football, especially when 99.9 percent of the people I talk to and interact with irl call it soccer.
SupremeHoodie
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Okay and what is exactly your point? The most popular sport in North America is football (American football), so why would I use the term for a less popular sport? Especially when you consider soccer is the term we use as kids and so it’s very much ingrained in our vocabulary.
SupremeHoodie
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No one cares if it’s your language. Soccer isn’t the only thing we say differently here btw. I’m sure you know that.
KlickKlack
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no one = my drugs addicted friends and I
Unknown Soldier
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Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag already happened though.
INC
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Hawking Radiation
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Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Zannegan
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That's why I said "less sense." My point was, as much as I enjoyed AC4, their trying to make the pirates out to be the good guys questing to bring freedom to all was one of the things that made its story so hilariously bad.
I will never not lose it when I think of Blackbeard's appeal for "Med'cines!" Lol.
INC
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American football.....you mean handegg, that the one where its basically rugby, but in america you need pads and roll cage across you face
SupremeHoodie
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Okay...
SupremeHoodie
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LooseLips
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It's staggering how many times people use that phrase and then follow it with utter fallacies - but, hey, makes for a good soundbite!
30 seconds on Google found:
When is St George's Day and is it a bank holiday?
EVERY year St George, the patron saint of England, is celebrated by patriotic folk all over the country. St George is famous for his battle with a dragon, and even worshipped across some parts of S…
www.thesun.co.uk
Who was St George and why is he the patron saint of England?
The flag of Saint George - a red cross on a white background - is England's national flag.
metro.co.uk
St George's Day 2021: how the dragon-slayer became the patron saint of England
The patron saint day falls in April each year, but how is it celebrated around the world?
www.telegraph.co.uk
English hero or Roman officer? Virtual quest set to find the real St George
English Heritage pauses its pageantry for online trail from Roman solider to patron saint
www.theguardian.com
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/17816642
One for children from the BBC that day - Perhaps a good place to start?
Most TV news was (and is still) on a rolling cycle - it's almost as if they had a bigger story to focus on that day. That said there were several packages produced on many regional TV News outlets on both ITV and BBC that day.
Tiamat2san
Member
XDI believe you dropped something
I remember in the 360/PS3 Simpson game. It was funny.
We became like in the XXth century.
A mix of bad politicians/ cocky generals and Belgium sucking German dicks.
But If we weren’t there US will have a queen and eat boiled beef with orange jam.
And it’s easy to enter a war later after doing business with the enemy.
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V4skunk
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Attack the argument, not the poster.
Thanks for proving my point you leftist kiddy fiddler.It's staggering how many times people use that phrase and then follow it with utter fallacies - but, hey, makes for a good soundbite!
30 seconds on Google found:
Can't get more 'mainstream' than Murdoch's biggest paper.When is St George's Day and is it a bank holiday?
EVERY year St George, the patron saint of England, is celebrated by patriotic folk all over the country. St George is famous for his battle with a dragon, and even worshipped across some parts of S…
The Metro has huge reach, which must make it 'mainstream' in many eyes.Who was St George and why is he the patron saint of England?
The flag of Saint George - a red cross on a white background - is England's national flag.
Another, big selling, broadsheet 'mainstream' paperSt George's Day 2021: how the dragon-slayer became the patron saint of England
The patron saint day falls in April each year, but how is it celebrated around the world?
Coverage from the 'other' side of the political spectrum...English hero or Roman officer? Virtual quest set to find the real St George
English Heritage pauses its pageantry for online trail from Roman solider to patron saint
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/17816642
One for children from the BBC that day - Perhaps a good place to start?
Most TV news was (and is still) on a rolling cycle - it's almost as if they had a bigger story to focus on that day. That said there were several packages produced on many regional TV News outlets on both ITV and BBC that day.
LooseLips
Member
Classy.
Wasn't the point you were trying to make that 'mainstream media' outlets didn't cover it? Wre you making a different point?
Shadowstar39
Member
Ubisoft is a French Company. Bad blood between England and France goes back centuries, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.
King Alfred the Great
-Defends his homeland from Viking Savages
-unified England to become one country essentially saving the country
-portrayed as evil and barbaric
The English can't catch a break even in video games
A.Romero
Member
I'm Mexican so I don't really have the same context as you guys. However, my country was a colony almost 600 years ago for almost 400 years. Spaniards came, conquered, decimated the population and established their rule and religion. I don't know anyone that holds a grudge against Spaniards nowadays but that might be related to the fact that there are not many indigenous people left.
AC games always have an angle. I mean, the message is pretty clear: Freedom vs Control. That's what the creed is all about. In my mind at least vikings represent the extreme of freedom (chaos/anarchy) and of course an imperialistic monarchy would represent the Templars the best.
If I remember correctly the Vatican was the go to antagonistic party during quite a few games in the AC lore and despite the Catholics having a lot of issues they were not 100% bad. However, nobody cared about how they made them a villain from a cartoon.
While the portrayal of the king and the British in general seems to be everything but balanced, I think it's useful to remember that you would take control of an actual Viking. Of course the game is going to show things from their own perspective. That said, the point is to sell games. I don't think a lot of people would enjoy playing the villain for the full game.
AC games always have an angle. I mean, the message is pretty clear: Freedom vs Control. That's what the creed is all about. In my mind at least vikings represent the extreme of freedom (chaos/anarchy) and of course an imperialistic monarchy would represent the Templars the best.
If I remember correctly the Vatican was the go to antagonistic party during quite a few games in the AC lore and despite the Catholics having a lot of issues they were not 100% bad. However, nobody cared about how they made them a villain from a cartoon.
While the portrayal of the king and the British in general seems to be everything but balanced, I think it's useful to remember that you would take control of an actual Viking. Of course the game is going to show things from their own perspective. That said, the point is to sell games. I don't think a lot of people would enjoy playing the villain for the full game.
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