Sleepwalker
Member
FSR 3 will be better than all other methods combined.
sarcasm off.
I applied FSR3 to your GIF.
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Starfield data mined shows that it does not have DLSS or XeSS
- Thread starter Buggy Loop
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I applied FSR3 to your GIF.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah but check out this awesome limited edition Ryzen CPU, can’t wait to put that bad boy in my rig.
winjer
Gold Member
How do you know what games have a deal signed with these companies?
The only ones we can know for sure are those that have bundles with hardware.
But most sponsorships are just a company sending some engineers to the studio to implement tech.
I'll give you an example I had today with Amid Evil. it got a new DLC that I was eager to play.
This game uses UE4.27, which has full support for the FSR2, XeSS1.2 and DLSS2 and 3 SDKs. Implementing it is very easy.
But the game only has support for DLSS2 and FSR1. Even TAAU is disabled and so is TAA Gen5.
I also tried the FSR2 mod. It doesn't work.
So for anyone without an RTX card there is no way to use a temporal upscaler. GTX, AMD and Intel owners have no option.
This game also got a big patch some time ago with RTX effects for shadows and reflections. And of course, it was also part of the RTX video ads on the nvidia site.
Can we be sure this is an nvidia sponsored game? Not for sure. But it's very likely.
Of course, this game is not as big as Starfield or Baldur's Gate 3. It's insignificant in comparison.
But it's just an example, of the kind of thing anyone that does not have an RTX card has to endure.
Topher
Gold Member
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Buggy Loop
Member
Dreathlock
Member
jaydogg691
Member
Y’all babies.
Pretty sure this game will run fine at native res you want to upscale to. Can’t hit the fps or res you want, adjust settings accordingly. :/
Pretty sure this game will run fine at native res you want to upscale to. Can’t hit the fps or res you want, adjust settings accordingly. :/
analog_future
Banned
Hopefully it supports FSR 3.0. I'm really interested to see what it's capable of.
Topher
Gold Member
Does the Game Pass version get the same amount of mod support as the Steam version?
winjer
Gold Member
And you believe nvidia.....
Zathalus
Member
For Amid Evil your beef should be with the developer:
Only DLSS2 and FSR1 :: AMID EVIL AMID FEEDBACK / SUGGESTIONS
Come on devs, why only include support for DLSS2 and FSR1. With the UE4 plugins for FSR2.2 and XeSS 1.2 available, it should be easy to implement these features. Seriously, you even disabled r.TemporalAA.Upsampling and r.TemporalAA.Algorithm, so even TAAU Gen5 is disabled by default. Anyone...
The only reason that they implemented DLSS and RTX in the first place was due to assistance from Nvidia several years ago.
Sleepwalker
Member
Not even remotely.
Mods are weird on those windows store apps, I tried to mod the gamepass version of football manager and eventually gave up and got it on steam.
Topher
Gold Member
That's pretty much what I've heard, but didn't know for sure.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Are you high my G?
AMD being the exclusive partner for the PC release of Starfield has nothing to do with Series X|S.
Bethesda havent implemented DLSS likely because of that exclusivity deal, not because the game is in trouble or whatever you mind is coming up with.
They implemented FSR2 which means their engine is already exposing all the inputs needed for DLSS, its not a technical limitation that they dont have DLSS.
P.S Surprise information?
Starfield PC Version Exclusively Optimized for AMD: No NVIDIA DLSS Support
This collaboration ensures that the highly anticipated space exploration game is being developed to fully leverage the capabilities of Ryzen CPUs and Radeon 7000 series GPUs, providing enhanced perfor...
^ This is from June
AMD has a partnership for the game and the theory is that they have FSR exclusivity.
winjer
Gold Member
For Amid Evil your beef should be with the developer:
Only DLSS2 and FSR1 :: AMID EVIL AMID FEEDBACK / SUGGESTIONS
Come on devs, why only include support for DLSS2 and FSR1. With the UE4 plugins for FSR2.2 and XeSS 1.2 available, it should be easy to implement these features. Seriously, you even disabled r.TemporalAA.Upsampling and r.TemporalAA.Algorithm, so even TAAU Gen5 is disabled by default. Anyone...steamcommunity.com
The only reason that they implemented DLSS and RTX in the first place was due to assistance from Nvidia several years ago.
Exactly, it was a sponsorship with nvidia.
But technically, there is no reason not to implement other upscalers. It's UE4, so it's a matter of minutes.
Still, the game only uses DLSS2. Even UE4's own temporal upscaler is disabled.
Dreathlock
Member
In this case, absolutely. They are very clear about that.
winjer
Gold Member
Buggy Loop
Member
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The game has to explicitly support mods otherwise its a chore to get mods to work.
Bethesda have already said Starfield will have mod support baked into it, so in this case its highly likely the level of support will be similar if not full for both.
The Microsoft Store unlocked mod support some time back (2019 - 2020) but the game has allow it.
With Steam releases you can inject mods pretty much regardless though of course some games you will have to play them online if they dont have explicit mod support they can flag your mods as cheats.
Majormaxxx
Member
I AM CANCELLING MY PREORDER!!!1!!
Starfield datamine shows no sign of Nvidia DLSS or Intel XeSS
Investigations into the Starfield preload files reveal a distinct lack of Nvidia DLSS or Intel XeSS footprints, suggesting it will only support AMD FSR.www.pcgamesn.com
AMD’s ”no comments” earlier this year in all these questions could have been two things, that they support every upscalers and the community freaked out over nothing, or that AMD is really blocking the other upscalers..
Well unless there’s a day 1 patch 59 change that, the preload doesn’t have DLSS / XeSS
FSR here we go
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I thought every PC gamer could run every game at a native 4k/120fps 
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Sending engineers to help implement support for some tech isn’t the same thing as making a deal to forbid supporting a competitor’s tech.
winjer
Gold Member
It is if they forbid implementing tech from other companies.
Which is the case with Amid Evil that I was talking about.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I downloaded off his patreon, you drop it into the games folder, it uses the Reshade interface. You do not need to download, enable, or install Reshade.
Solidus_T
Member
Not surprised at all - they have an AMD partnership and you can snag a cool 7900 XTX with Starfield designs. FSR really isn't that far behind DLSS, but it's still stupid that they don't offer all of the upscaling options.
Patching DLSS into a game is simple though - it will just mean that the menus now have artifacts due to it being patched by the community.
Patching DLSS into a game is simple though - it will just mean that the menus now have artifacts due to it being patched by the community.
Buggy Loop
Member
Unbelievable
You’re making incredible assumptions
Go ask the dev right away on steam, screenshot it and keep us updated.
winjer
Gold Member
Yet, if it was the other way around, you would immediately claim AMD was blocking DLSS.
alucard0712_rus
Member
If it has FSR2 then DLSS can be injected, I suppose. Modders can do wonder with those kind of gaming problems.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Modders:
What if the just reused the same ol Gamebrio but AMD sent engineers to implement FSR (due to the partnership)?
Buggy Loop
Member
I skipped caring for many many ports that didn’t have DLSS, as seen in lists, it’s not the first happening, there’s many in the past, never made threads for those, maybe I mentioned it’s a crappy situation, but not some conspiration on blocking Nvidia.
AMD raised eyebrows and questions especially since Boundary dev ditched the ALREADY IMPLEMENTED RTX and DLSS after getting an AMD sponsorship and the now Starfield with AMD’s whole “no comment”
Shady as shit. Never seen the likes of that on Nvidia for upscalers, especially not like Boundary dev.
You’re even more cultist than AMD unboxed
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GHG
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Heisenberg007
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
winjer
Gold Member
I do believe that AMD is blocking other tech. I can't deny that.
What I'm saying is that NVidia is also doing it now.
And there are so many recent games that only have DLSS, it's obvious that nvidia is playing the same game.
But you are such a big nvidia fanboy, you deny the obvious.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
If only Bethesda were acquired by a company that is super rich and doesn't have to make deals like these that limit gamers' options . . .
Buggy Loop
Member
Again
Nvidia comments they don’t block
You don’t believe it, fine
You even understand how many “journalists” would bust their collective nuts to find a single dev saying that Nvidia blocked FSR? You even realize the drama and the clicks?
Yet it’s not happening after all this time
To believe that Nvidia could lie, I can give you that, but that not a single dev denounces the situation? To not say the likes of Nvidia does it too?
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winjer
Gold Member
Again
Nvidia comments they don’t block
You don’t believe it, fine
You even understand how many “journalists” would bust their collective nuts to find a single dev saying that Nvidia blocked FSR? You even realize the drama and the clicks?
Yet it’s not happening after all this time
To believe that Nvidia could lie, I can give you that, but that not a single dev denounces the situation? To not say the likes of Nvidia does it too?
You choose to believe in nvidia, despite a long history of lies and manipulation.
That is your choice. But it's still just you you want to believe.
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