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Sony Santa Monica officially moves fully to next project; GOW: Ascension done
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Because the gameplay is tired and archaic.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I feel like after six games in the series I've had my fill of Ancient Greece. If there's to be another GoW instalment (and I don't doubt there will be), I'd like to have z big stylistic shift and it to be set somewhere entirely different.
I don't think they need to drop the IP, but I think they need to think carefully before dragging it on. Even if they drop Kratos they should have a better story, otherwise why care about the new character?
I'd rather they made a new IP, can have roughly the same style and mechanics, do a great job of starting fresh and have a great story for a new character. I know God of War carries some weight but they don't need to stick to it. The Last of Us did very well for a new IP partly because people knew it was from the Uncharted studio. No reason SSM couldn't do the same. Any similar game made by 'The GoW studio/team' will peak peoples interest, no need to use God Of War in the tile or have any link to the series in the game.
I still like it. But you can change those things too anyway.
I don't think they'd have to retain anything, not even swords on chains. It could be a Samurai game even. If it's a third person character action game with a focus on scope, and it's from SSM, it's God of War.
Personally, I've always hoped the series would get a little more Zelda-ish, but alas.
killatopak
Member
Just like every other FPS?
Some new mechanics should freshen up the franchise just like what Titan Fall will do if it ever lives up to the hype.
Far too much time has been wasted on GOWA. Sony needs to make sure another GOWA and UC3 type situation never happens. These are quintessential examples of titles that do not push their respective franchises forward and only exist to pad out the library and cash grab from fans.
They got me with UC3 but I'm glad I never supported Ascension. You can make a flimsy case that UC3 was good I mean it had some great gameplay moments like ships graveyard and a story that looked like it was going somewhere(until the end) but GOWA was out and out a completely wasted title and one of the most disappointing games of the gen.
They got me with UC3 but I'm glad I never supported Ascension. You can make a flimsy case that UC3 was good I mean it had some great gameplay moments like ships graveyard and a story that looked like it was going somewhere(until the end) but GOWA was out and out a completely wasted title and one of the most disappointing games of the gen.
HAve you played/finished it?
StealthGoblin
Banned
So Darksiders then. Darksiders felt like GOW meets Zelda only less polished than both of those series.
and it was mediocre. First one at least. I got bored after 2-3hr. And I finish 90-95% of the games I play.
I really didn't like it. But I don't think it was anything to do with it being a character action game in a Zelda-clone, so I still think it'd be great if SSM did it.
killatopak
Member
Really? I was planning to buy Darksiders too. What made it bad?
StealthGoblin
Banned
Yeah. Darksiders was really tedious. Lacked any moment-to-moment buzz that a God of War game has. At the same time the world wasn't anywhere near as developed or as interesting as a Zelda overworld.
Read Galvanise_ comment. I would aslo add that combat/movement animation was poor and there was no weight to the combat. You know when you fight with Kratos you feel like powerful bad ass? none of that
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Bring on Cory Balrog`S game
Samir Sedlar
Member
Rent it and try it out, I for one got it and loved it, the sequel was even better and the combat much better and more fun, I lent the game to an action friend of mine and he loved it ((the sequel)), and I had a friend oversees who also got the sequel and loved it.
Seriously when it comes to action games you really need to try it out yourself, cause people who enjoys the same genre have very different opinions.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
I want them to make the next big Sony title to shake things up as much as when GoW first launched. Something that big and crazy and impressive.
I *would* say they need to make 'the next god of war' but it would be taken literally instead of the way I described above.
I *would* say they need to make 'the next god of war' but it would be taken literally instead of the way I described above.
killatopak
Member
Hmm.. I gotta hold off on it then. Maybe watch some reviews and LPs first.
Edit:
Good idea.
Opus Angelorum
Member
I'm leaning towards a new IP, Ascension being their swan song.
Played as much as I could stomach and watched the rest on youtube, but I did manage to play the final boss recently which just made me appreciate Zeus in GOWIII even more. Definitley more "GAME" to be had there.
Just look at the critical and commercial success of the game, it nowhere near rivals GOWIII. Franchise fatigue is all well and fair but what really happened is that GOWA is a lazy entry and feels like a cash grab like no other. Gameplay improvements were nil as they just limited combos, they made the case it was younger Kratos and not as powerful but they still threw in stupid large bosses instead of making it a more intimate affair to truly show his humanity. The game felt mechanical and just going through the motions of what people expect from GOW, but not doing it half as well.
SSM is all B team now
Balrog could redeem them. Stig just looks like he disappeared, no news or anything on his game despite finishing GOWIII in 2010.SolidSnakex
Member
Entrecôte;85772842 said:
The heads of Ascension were different. Stig (GoW3's director) moved on to working on a new IP after completing GoW3. But some of that team went over to help finish Ascension. Naughty Dog works the same way. Neil and Bruce completed Uncharted 2 and then went over to start working on TLoU with a few members from the U2 team, while the rest went and finished U3. After U3 was finished some of those members came back over and helped finish TLoU. So, even with different teams everyone is always helping out on projects.
Uncharted 3 did push the franchise forward. It's the best selling Uncharted yet. The success of that game no doubt helped The Last of Us also since it was plastered on the game itself that it came from the creators of Uncharted. Not every sequel needs to be something drastically different. Uncharted 3 was more of the same but that's what a lot of people wanted hence its success.
Itchy//Tasty
Member
Been saying for ages that this studio should do Heavenly Sword 2. Then you can do the same spectacle and furious combat of a GoW, but with a new setting, mythology, weapons, supporting cast, and a female character. Nariko could have an epic saga the same way Kratos did.
Who cares what the reason is. Again don't let story interfere with cool gameplay possibilities.
Hellenistic Egypt and religious syncretism you ignorant fool.
El Shaddai is an action game that has some Judeo-Christian elements to satiate people that want that. I think it would be cool but boring compared to other stuff. Bring on the Hindu pantheon! Or Sino-Japanese mythology. Just stop having Kratos in it for it to make sense, God of Wars exist in other cultures too.
Iranian mythology is a personal favourite of mine though not mainstream enough to get selected.
You are wasting your time. They suffer from "Uncharted 3 syndrom"
read above what it is
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The second half of GoW:A > the entirety of GoW3 > the first half of GoW:A
Pound_lb003
Member
This is what should have happened a little ways back.
I don't even think it was until GoW3 that it became so linear and facile. Making it a cinematic experience totally diluted the gameplay. It should have been more open.
Muppet of a Man
Member
We can only hope; they should retire god of war for a few years.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I felt the second half of the game had some really gorgeous environments, some of the most devious puzzles in the series, better enemy variety(really like the warrior chick they introduced), one of the better boss fights in the series with the Sister s(even though its basically repeated again in the finale), and yeah, I enjoyed the Gauntlet. Beat it on my second try, heh.
GoW3 has its moments, but a lot it felt like going through the motions a bit, and I wasn't a huge fan of some of its design decisions, like forcing you to use a certain weapon for the Onyx armor guys or...the entirety of that terrible Scorpion boss.
AgentChris
Member
Two new IP's and a new God of War. Spread that SSM all over the PS4.
I don't even mean the mechanics per say. I just think things like collision detection on the weapons, better animations on the enemies and that fixed camera really needs to go. There's no excuse for that in this day and age. It just feels so archaic for such an otherwise technically brilliant game.
jacksepticeye
Member
I'd like to see a new IP first before another GOW.
Though a new GOW on PS4 would likely look astonishing
Though a new GOW on PS4 would likely look astonishing
SniperHunter
Banned
god of war is played ouf. it needs a long break
It's the only character action franchise with a great camera, and we don't even have to operate it, and you don't want it.
I weep for our future.
You know Naughty Dog spoil us when people actually try to insist that Uncharted 3 is a bad game. I can't believe this sh*t.
Samir Sedlar
Member
Totally agree.
I hated the combat in Ascension, It was no fun at all, the enemies had no resistance so I felt like I was cutting through thin air, it took me sometime till I got used to it, the change in magic system to be blocks instead of a bar was something totally unneeded, and how the elemental powers worked was so poor.
Ascension is worst God of War I played, which is a shame.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Except that the pantheon is full of gods that are constantly brutal and violent on very personal, petty levels. They're more like emotionally erratic superheroes than anything. Are there even enough good characters in the bible to make a God of War game out of?
I mean, I guess you could play as Lucifer during the time he gets thrown out of heaven.
Ryan Gosling
Member
Let Kratos die already. We need a new bad ass main character, hopes up to a Japan mythologie.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
I am hyped so much for SSM's output this coming gen. Probably more than any developer on any system.
zackmorris
Member
Hopefully another studio will take over GoW so they can make a new IP. Personally I don't care too much about GoW but the game sells so I doubt they would end the franchise.
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