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Sony is our enemy now?
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DEAD ORIGINAL
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Both Playstation and Xbox should dump physical next gen, this in turn should make digital games cheaper or at least have decent summer deals and also make online free, it's a piss take in 2026 especially the price £60 for what free games each month which are shit just make it free, Playstation copy Microsoft, Xbox have already started cutting management I hope DEI management team is included, give developers near free reign on games but fire the woke obsessed ones, the first thing game developers should discuss making a game Is how much fun can we make it, not how can we include diversity.
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Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Totally delusional.
They would not make the games cheaper, More expensive, Look at those greedy bastards Nintendo. Zelda BOTW on switch was a remake they charged $60 for like 6 straight years without a discount. Recent Sony is even greedier. Prepare for $80 digital games with minimal discounts for years.
Fess
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This is a content-production decision, Blu-ray Discs for XBOX and movies etc will still exist, as long as no similar decision is made by someone else.
Damigos
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And then we bought everything digital.We certainly did by buying consoles with physical media options -even now - at at least 85% to15%
My PS5's disc drive works 2-3 a year max
DeepEnigma
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Everyone here licks each other's taint. And gobbles their favorite brand's goo.
PaintTinJr
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Everything? Take it you aren't watching DF's video on this issue, where the content that matters was still 55% in favour of physical even with rat in the maze leading the consumer to digital only by PlayStation?
Your argument is disingenuous by physical releases that aren't inherently GaaS or Always-online
Twinblade
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My ps5 has been digital since '21, with a 4 tb hard drive installed. When I moved into my apartment, it wasn't very big and I didn't want all that clutter. And honestly of the ps6 doesn't cost over $1000, ill get that too.
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simpatico
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Does, or hell CAN, anyone else even print blu-rays? I recall in the throws of the HDM war, a lot was made over the cost of producing them vs a DVD or even HD-DVD. Time could have blunted that for sure, but idk if who the players even are in the replication side of that business.
There's a break-even volume required to keep those machines running. It's not a public service. Taking games out of that equation, which made up for more than half the blu-rays printed, means we might see movies follow very closely behind.
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Daymos
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I'm trying to buy a back up disc drive for my ps5 and finding them sold out everywhere. I'm gonna have to go drive around searching I suppose, I see some in-store pick up possibilities a long ways away. It's like they purposely limited the supply of disc drives to force more people into digital. Maybe its better to forget about it and buy $80 of switch1 games instead, final fantasy resonance is full on the cart... probably runs like shit though.
Fess
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Sony is one of many global manufacturers. Tried to Google Xbox discs and Technicolor and Sonopress seems to be big ones for Xbox games currently, CMC is the largest global optical disc manufacturer. Sony is also printing Xbox discs though. And others. AI says that nothing is falling through Sony's decision, except PlayStation discs.
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simpatico
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If PlayStation discs made up 50% total percent of all blu-ray discs being made today as Sony claimed, if nothing else this greatly increases the cost by cutting your economy of scale in half. Imagine the impact on the translucent blu plastic case industry? Devastated this week. Wiped out.
LuxFixxins
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No. Sony is like, totes gonna go bankrupt because everyone is totally gonna skip the PS6 bro!
Witvow
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We don't have to like it, but unfortunately it was only a matter of time. Profits are all that matter in the gaming industry right now.. which is exactly why they are all struggling, so they kill off the devs instead of changing their ways. A crash was inevitable and unfortunately very much so needed.. let's just hope everything comes out better on the other side and those effected land squarely on their feet, because we are currently in the midst of the second big gaming crash and those who can't see it are in denial.
RickMasters
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Yes MS make bad choices and are the but of jokes on gaming forums. But Sony always follows what MS does sooner or later.
Xbox 360 got mocked for being the COD box…. Sony went and made sure they got marketing deals for COD for the PS4 and focused on western games like it was X360
MS have always charged for online gaming. Sony soon followed.
Ms have a subscription…. Sony made one too.
MS pretty much killed the idea of physical Xbox games years ago….. Sony are doing it now too. Difference is Xbox gamers were all in on all digital anyway.
You want to know what your beloved Playstation platform does next? Just look at whatever Xbox does today.
RickMasters
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I think this is the hard part many Sony fans are coming to terms with. They always perceived Sony as a company that listens to them above all.
Turn out they were just humming alon and collecting money. And now we here they are hiding the real physical numbers to justify all digital. I personally don't have a problem with it. But it's been hilarious to see some of the reactions to it. One would think they personally were Freida with Sony excess and PlayStation developers. And the rest of who did t own one were just fools to big companies that just want our money….. we'll Atleast we new where we stood with MS.
LuxFixxins
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Are you saying there was ever a time video games were not about profit?We don't have to like it, but unfortunately it was only a matter of time. Profits are all that matter in the gaming industry right now.. which is exactly why they are all struggling, so they kill off the devs instead of changing their ways. A crash was inevitable and unfortunately very much so needed.. let's just hope everything comes out better on the other side and those effected land squarely on their feet, because we are currently in the midst of the second big gaming crash and those who can't see it are in denial.
Also, do you know what profit is or what its function is?
Not trying to be an ass, but a lot of people seem to think profit is solely for pocketing.
Majukun
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To be honest, I think the backlash has been rather tame if you compare it to the whole x one debacle.
Damigos
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55% in favour of discs, but they create 5% of the revenue. And by 2028 it will be 2% of the revenue. Its a lost battle, sorry to inform you. It was lost during the PS4 gen
Witvow
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No, yes, no.
My point was that now more than ever originality, risk, and fun have largely been stripped from many games in the pursuit of chasing trends, following a cookie cutter design, and appeasing stockholders and suits.
Was it always like that? Sure to some extent, but not the way it is today. The reason the industry is failing is because of bloat, fatigue, size of studios, rising production times, and worrying about graphics over everything else that matter more to the most important people, the consumers.
Not all games fall into these traps, but the industry is largely out of touch these days. They just need to slow things down and remember that ultimately at the end of the day that if the game isn't fun, it takes to long to release, or they blow past their budget that being profitable is highly unlikely due to shorter attention spans, an oversaturated market, and rising costs of components.
I've been saying for years that true AA games are missing and those were the games that propped up the industry. There was a time when even the largest studios released a big blockbuster every few years and released smaller, more bite sized, AA games, that were aimed at fun above all else, and those were the games that the studios made the largest profit margins on.
Producing one huge AAA title every 7-10 years just isn't sustainable when you need to sell around a hundred million just to break even. It is much riskier and failure likely means that studio is on borrowed time or that their game never even sees the light of day.
CentralScrutinizer
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Philosophically, corporations are by nature antagonistic (or enemies of) towards consumers.
The role of the free market is to find an equal ground between the desires of the corporations and the desires of the consumers and the monetary / product and service transactions between the two is the negotiation between both sides.
There is a give and take to find a happy medium that everyone is okay with.
Has the market chose digital on PlayStation the last ten years? Yes. But that was in an ecosystem where the choice was offered.
Now we will have to see how negotiations between both sides play out when one side is trying to take more than they are willing to give.
In this sense, yes, Sony is being antagonistic to consumers. We will just have to see how the consumers respond in the end.
Matsuchezz
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Isn't everything steam related digital, and nobody cries about it? I used to buy physical games, when the boxes were worth a damn the printed art was great the booklets were printed in high quality paper, nowadays the paper is dirt-cheap and low quality at least in Mexico the boxes are rubbish. If they release a BR player or even the PS5 BR is compatible with PS6 I am good with all digital from now on. Discs are just polluting the planet.
CentralScrutinizer
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This has been covered countless times. Yes, steam is all digital, but if they (or publishers) try to revoke a game, piracy is an easy option to "own" the game forever. That's not an option at all on modern consoles.
It's the nuclear option for PC gamers. It's MAD. Publishers won't try it and if they do the other side will do what they need to do.
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