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Makes sense. If you want the PS5 experience just buy the PS5 game.
Good job not asking more from Sony. You aren’t even a little annoyed that there is a PS5 enhanced version of Spider-Man that Sony can very easily give to PS4 owners of Spider-Man for free, like Microsoft is doing with their titles, but instead is requiring those owners to spend $50 extra to obtain?Makes sense. If you want the PS5 experience just buy the PS5 game.
To be honest I’m not annoyed from a business standpoint. As a gamer I know that they’ll change that down the line. So there’s no need to be upset.Good job not asking more from Sony. You aren’t even a little annoyed that there is a PS5 enhanced version of Spider-Man that Sony can very easily give to PS4 owners of Spider-Man for free, like Microsoft is doing with their titles, but instead is requiring those owners to spend $50 extra to obtain?
Didn't they already say going forward, games that come out from July onward will get updated code that works on PS5, and ones before that won't? I guess that doesn't mean the same as getting a full-fledged PS5 version, but seems like they were saying not to expect PS5 versions of games that came out before then.To be honest I’m not annoyed from a business standpoint. As a gamer I know that they’ll change that down the line. So there’s no need to be upset.
Yeah, wonder how that July code will pan out.Didn't they already say going forward, games that come out from July onward will get updated code that works on PS5, and ones before that won't? I guess that doesn't mean the same as getting a full-fledged PS5 version, but seems like they were saying not to expect PS5 versions of games that came out before then.
Shit like this is how Sony ensures that multi console owners buy all their third party games on Xbox instead of PS 5. Sony could give a rat’s ass about about providing free support for their own titles. Meanwhile, Microsoft has had their bc team work on automatic upgrades to all BC titles, including 3rd party titles, like enabling HDR. They also had their BC team enhance some third party titles from prior generations.
It's not bad math.Their attempts to protect the deluxe edition value/sales is just bad math.
The problem is: You MUST buy MM to even buy the remasterSounds great until you realize you will never use any of this. I've own a xbox one since Day 1 and now a one X. Not even once I started a BC game and most of these games were also available on PC for years with far superior graphics anyway.
I'll gladly pay the 20$ to play a game I actually want to replay. Everyone was fine with paying a fee to play remasters before.
Suddenly, it's this big selling point. I can feel the desperation, like there is nothing else to use.
You can play the original PS4 game you have on PS5, but supposedly it is legacy mode. You won't get boosts or anything.So if I own Spiderman PS4 and buy standard edition of Spiderman MM on PS5 I can't pay for the PS5 upgrade of the original?
That's fine. I'm not going to buy SMM now.
What if someone just wants to play Spiderman Remastered for the first time and doesn't want MM?I have Spiderman PS4, I have no interest in replaying it except to check out PS5 upgrades. I won’t actually play it again.
If you’re interested in Miles Morales, then it’s a win all around. If you buy it on PS4, cool, free upgrade to PS5. If you want Spiderman PS5 too, cool, $20 upgrade, or you can buy the Ultimate and you’re set all around on both platforms.
This really only hurts someone who has Spiderman on PS4 and who really wanted to replay it on PS5, which I have to imagine is very few people. If you’re gonna play Miles Morales, where the gameplay is identical apart from Miles’s specific powers and moves, why would you also want to play 50-80 hours of the same game on top of it?
If you’ve not played either game before, then buy the Ultimate Edition and you’re good to go.
I feel like this is mountain out of a mole hill kind of stuff.
Nobody ever said you can't play the PS4 game in a PS5.Oh my God just get over it. I already finished it twice. 14 million other people bought it as well. It would be nice but man I dont give a fuck if PS5 wont give me the extra assets for my old PS4 version Spiderman. Ill play Miles instead. The fact that this news is getting dragged on for so long is ridiculous.
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Then just buy the PS4 version??? PS5 is backwards compatible. Do you understand that the only thing SONy said is you wont get all the bells and whistles from MM on the older SPiderman unless you pay. they never said you CANT play Spiderman on PS5. The game still looks beautiful and you can find it for $20. Why does it have to be a full on remaster?
Nobody ever said you can't play the PS4 game in a PS5.
What some people want to do is play the remaster since Sony is promoting it.
But turns out it's behind the MM paywall.
Many people aren't even complaining that it costs money (the equivalent of $20). They just want to buy a stadalone copy instead of being forced to buy MM with it.
Reason why some people want it free is because of these kinds of reasons:I can see Sony selling the Remastered version a year from now. But if gamers want to play it right now, then that's the only way to get it, unfortunately. Sony is right to charge for the Remastered version. There will always be people feeling entitled to free everything. TLOU Remastered wasn't free either. No one works for free, so why should the developers.
The problem is: You MUST buy MM to even buy the remaster
Nobody ever said you can't play the PS4 game in a PS5.
What some people want to do is play the remaster since Sony is promoting it.
But turns out it's behind the MM paywall.
Many people aren't even complaining that it costs money (the equivalent of $20). They just want to buy a stadalone copy instead of being forced to buy MM with it.
Umm no actually that's not true. I myself bought Spiderman on sale on PSN six weeks ago and haven't played it at all yet because I've been busy with work.Drop it already. These people don't exist. Anybody getting a PS5 with an interest in Spider-Man will get Miles Morales. You think the remaster is the system seller here? People are getting a PS5 only to play the remastered?
And I thought Last of Us Remastered on PS4 sold about 10 million copies. And the game wasn't even bargain priced at $20 at launch. It started at $50.Ok so you are getting a PS5 but you have no interest in MM, only for the remastered?
Just wait then, it's coming later.
Drop it already. These people don't exist. Anybody getting a PS5 with an interest in Spider-Man will get Miles Morales. You think the remaster is the system seller here? People are getting a PS5 only to play the remastered?
That’s a fair point. That would suck to have it tied to MM, if you’re completely disinterested in his story.What if someone just wants to play Spiderman Remastered for the first time and doesn't want MM?
Umm no actually that's not true. I myself bought Spiderman on sale on PSN six weeks ago and haven't played it at all yet because I've been busy with work.
And I thought Last of Us Remastered on PS4 sold about 10 million copies. And the game wasn't even bargain priced at $20 at launch. It started at $50.
Ok, I get it. You want to defend the paywall.
So explain why Sony was willing to sell LoU Remastered standalone only 1 year after the PS3 game came out, yet for PS4 Remastered it's a forced bundle for a two year old game?
Why not sell it standalone like a LoU Remastered option?
That’s a fair point. That would suck to have it tied to MM, if you’re completely disinterested in his story.
I would argue that the amount of people who didn’t play it on PS4, but are buying a PS5, and want to only play Peter Parker’s story is very small, though is is not zero. You’re right. It would make sense for them to sell it separately. I imagine they will eventuallym but it’s a additional value and incentive to buy Miles Morales’s game. I would guess that’s the business side.
Not everyone wants Miles Morales.So you're angry they are making you pay 20$ instead of 49.99$ for a standalone version? Somehow that's better for you because you don't want Miles at all so 50$ each instead.
Not everyone wants Miles Morales.
Paywalling Spiderman Remastered behind a $70 fee is pure greed.
As I said to you before, they made LoU 1 Remastered as a standalone game. They could have done that with Spidey too.
Instead of defending Sony, how about think of why they paywalled in a $70 bundle instead a separate optional purchase for cheaper. Here's a tip. It has to do with $$$.
This is a "Forget The Gamers" move.Kotaku reached out to Sony about this. Games journalism actually doing some work. GoW next please.
Sony Confirms There's No Free PS5 Upgrade For PS4 Spider-Man Players
There are still a lot of questions surrounding Spider-Man on PlayStation 5. The good news? We have answers. The bad news? Well, the answers themselves.kotaku.com
I feel like this is all on marketing. It seems like this isnt a straight 4k 60 fps port of spiderman. They are overhauling graphics with new character models, better hair, new texutres for buildings, ray tracing, and a bunch of other stuff that will also be in Miles. I am perfectly fine with this being a $20 new SKU.
However, there are a lot of issues with how Sony has gone about marketing this:
1) We havent seen any footage, no one really knows what this remaster looks like.
2) There is no separate SKU. You have to buy the $70 spiderman MM version to be able to play this.
3) We dont know what upgrades current gen versions are getting on PS5. Is the PS5 boost mode going to enable 4k 60 fps via BC?
4) We also dont know if Insomniac intends to release a PS5 patch for the existing PS4 version of the game in case PS5 boost mode isnt anything special.
There are so many dumb moves here by Sony its mind boggling to think that their most popular exclusive of current gen is being treated this way. Had Sony announced PS5 patches for TLOU2, Ghosts and other pS4 exclusives, this wouldnt be as big of a deal.
more to do with moving copies of miles morales and to help it from flopping compared to spiderman ps4.Not everyone wants Miles Morales.
Paywalling Spiderman Remastered behind a $70 fee is pure greed.
As I said to you before, they made LoU 1 Remastered as a standalone game. They could have done that with Spidey too.
Instead of defending Sony, how about think of why they paywalled in a $70 bundle instead a separate optional purchase for cheaper. Here's a tip. It has to do with $$$.
It's not a bonus throw in.The Last of Us also came out in June 2013, less than six months before the PS4 came out. Spiderman came out in late 2018, which is almost two years ago. I think that's the big difference. SM is an old game, they're throwing it into the Miles Morales game as a bonus, not the other way around.
I don't really get the anger over this. The game is old, most PS4 fans have already played it I would think (and spend $60 on it), and I think a $70 Miles Morales with the full original game is a really great value actually.
It's not a bonus throw in.
You can get Miles Morales for $50 straight up.
And I thought Last of Us Remastered on PS4 sold about 10 million copies. And the game wasn't even bargain priced at $20 at launch. It started at $50.
Ok, I get it. You want to defend the paywall.
So explain why Sony was willing to sell LoU Remastered standalone only 1 year after the PS3 game came out, yet for PS4 Remastered it's a forced bundle for a two year old game?
Why not sell it standalone like a LoU Remastered option?
We need "evidence"It's not an upgrade is a RE-MASTER.
2 years old games don't need a "RE-MASTER".It's not an upgrade is a RE-MASTER.
TLOU got a Remastered released a year after, so i don't get you.2 years old games don't need a "RE-MASTER".
Retroactively adding some features that they developed as part of Miles Morales effort, doesn't make this a "RE-MASTER".
Word is cheap... how about some in game graphic and footage to show us if the jump is THAT big. Better yet, have a vanilla spiderman running on ps5 and having remaster run side by side to prove to us original spiderman buyer the upgrade is worthwhile.TLOU got a Remastered released a year after, so i don't get you.
Insomniac already stated what they did to the Remaster on Twitter.
Better textures, assets, more pedestrians, etc.
This thread:
"Oh no! I have to pay money for a remaster of an older game like I have been doing the entire last gen! How dare Sony do that. MS is giving a PC version of Gears 5 for free which took them less than 2 weeks to bring to Xbox because they have no actual first party line up, so why can't Sony give us a free upgrade to a brand new engine with new assets, lighting and textures? Arrogant Sony is back!"
Get a grip guys. Literal children in this forum
So suddenly there's a narrative that Sony isn't offering free next gen upgrades last I checked, Miles Morales and Horizon 2 both had free next gen upgrades.Free Next-Gen upgrades are being offered by most publishers, not MS. Are you really surprised that people expect Sony to adhere to something that's becoming an industry standard?
Has a PlayStation Exclusive ever disappoint?Word is cheap... how about some in game graphic and footage to show us if the jump is THAT big. Better yet, have a vanilla spiderman running on ps5 and having remaster run side by side to prove to us original spiderman buyer the upgrade is worthwhile.
I never liked Bllodborne. I hate Horizon zero dawn.Has a PlayStation Exclusive ever disappoint?
Has Spiderman MM gameplay disappoint??
Every single time PlayStation is about to release an Exclusive, it's always some kind of doom and loom till we see gameplay.
I hate FPS, but I don't go around talking bad about them.I never liked Bllodborne. I hate Horizon zero dawn.
No one did.You ask me has playstation exclusive disappoint. The answer is HELL YES.
No one did.
Look up, like literally, 4 posts above yours...