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Satya Nadella: “Nearly half of the Xbox Series S buyers are new to our ecosystem”
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Sounds a bit salty, just saying.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I said it before and was mocked but I know 2 people who wanted a new console and were tired of waiting on PS5 stock and bought the Series S simply because it was on the shelf and this was their first ever Xbox system
Punished Miku
Gold Member
CeeJay
Member
Whenever a CEO speaks you have to take into account the audience who will listen to it, everyone basically. This includes other members of the board, the wider staff, shareholders, partners, competitors and consumers. If a statement seems odd and doesn't make sense to you then it's probably not aimed at you.
It could be a response to the recent bout of tweets and articles from developers asking for MS to drop the requirement to develop for it (if you want to put out a game on Series X) and pointing out that there are all these new customers that those developers wouldn't be reaching without a Series S version so it's very much in their interest to want to support it.
It could be a message to shareholders to justify the Series S existing, possibly off the back of a question that one of them posed.
It could be aimed at potential partners to show that the platform is growing and finding new potential customers to hopefully make the platform look more attractive.
The truth is that it could be any number of reasons but rest assured there will be a reason for saying it regardless of how odd it first appears.
edit: ah its from the quarterly earnings review aimed at shareholders, see option 2 above.
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Its actually a decent example. Would be interesting to know the RAM usage of that title on pc. But still at least based on that title, S isn't the 1440p machine Microsoft marketed early.
DaGwaphics
Member
Being the go to for a kids first console would hardly be a bad place to be, start building that green loyalty at a young age. LOL
Good to hear that they are satisfied with how it is doing, it was a bold move.
Good to hear that they are satisfied with how it is doing, it was a bold move.
feynoob
Banned
It confirms the reality, that people don't care about graphics.
Most people want something to play on. And if you provide cheap access, they will buy it.
It will become a great value, if Xbox can sort out their first party output.
It's also a great have console for kids with gamepass.
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DaGwaphics
Member
I guess in your mind PS5/XSX aren't the 4k consoles they were marketed as either. Bummer.
MikeM
Member
Salty because I said its generally a 900p box? Why would I be salty?
Magic Carpet
Member
A Series PC will keep long time xbox users in your ecosystem.
Or is that just me?
Or is that just me?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I guess thats exactly why they created the Series S. Doesnt explain the lack of software revenue growth though. Are these like those Wii and Kinect buyers who buy the console but do nothing with it?
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I still think the majority of gamers still use a 1080p 60hz TV and honestly the Series S is really all they need
DaGwaphics
Member
The current state of the economy has game software sales down across the board, even on mobile. It is what it is.
feynoob
Banned
My TV is from 2014, while my monitor is 1440p.
Even if I have the best 4k console, it won't do anything for me, until I upgrade my TV.
Roni
Gold Member
You got my point, but sure, die on that hill out of all possible ways of keeping the discussion going.
onnextflix5
Member
Wow 1 exclusive Xbox game, are u arguing against me or for me
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
In that regard, The PS5 and the Series X are the 1440p machines. Seems to be little comparatively little upset about that.
He means the expensive expansion disk to be able to install games. Not the disc.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Because it's some good news about the Series S, and you're getting a dig in as a response to that.
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Neo_GAF
Banned
even if you want to buy a ps5, it is still absolutely impossible to find one out in the wild.
i got one during the slow summer, but seeing those scalper prices still going on, i wonder how much money sony has lost during that time. and i also wonder, if they are really doing this on purpose, because i remember, that the ps2, psp, ps3 and ps4 were also very hard to get at the beginning but that was only for the first couple of weeks/months and not for almost 2 years.
i got one during the slow summer, but seeing those scalper prices still going on, i wonder how much money sony has lost during that time. and i also wonder, if they are really doing this on purpose, because i remember, that the ps2, psp, ps3 and ps4 were also very hard to get at the beginning but that was only for the first couple of weeks/months and not for almost 2 years.
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I'm confused... What's odd about the statement? The Series S was designed to get get new people into the Xbox eco-system and it's succeeding. The Series X is for the hardcore fans who were likely already going to buy an Xbox.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Looking at videos comparing the different versions of games, I tend to think most people who didn't even consider it (including me) and always buy the premium versions would probably be completely happy too.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The what?
Didnt GamePass make like 29 billion?
Why would a casual buy a game, when everything they actually want to play is on GamePass or Free to Play?
To put things into perspective the top 10 most played games on Xbox:
Fortnite - Free
Warzone - Free
Overwatch - Free
Roblox - Free
Apex Legends - Free
FIFA/NBA - 70 bucks?
GTA Online - 60?
MineCraft - Free (GP)
Destiny 2 - Free
Siege - Free
What software are you expecting them to actually be purchasing outside of COD/Yearly SportTite/BattlePasses/GamePass subscription?
If Sony released their most played list, it would look eerily similar to this as well.
Singleplayers games dont have staying power, finish it once or twice then go back to what you actually want to play.
Thats how near literally all my IRL gamer friends actually play games, they buy that exciting AAA game cuz they hear the hype, they get through it, and they are back to FIFA/NBA/Madden/GTAO/COD/Apex.
BigbyTheSheriff
Member
Ah, your daily Series S thread on Neogaf.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Just my opinion though people like us who watch videos comparing the versions of games is not the target audience of the Series S
The S was a product to get on shelves at a great price
Honestly I think its going to have massive Christmas sales numbers when parents are looking for the big ticket item to put under trees
But yeah having seen the Series S even on my 4k 65" TV sitting back on the couch I think most gamers would be pretty happy with it
Lust of Ass would be a good porn parody.I think you might have downloaded the wrong Last of Us
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
You're so close to understanding the entire point of this console.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
That gif would be higher resolution in a PS5 Thread. ...Lower framerate though.Ah, your daily Series S thread on Neogaf.
It's to inflate numbers a little. If he used Series X most sales would be to previous xbox diehards whereas series s is more likely to be a cheap machine for those who weren't in the ecosystem before. So he could have said something like 20% of Series consoles are to new customers or he could have said 50% of Series S sales are to new customers.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-series-x-games-list
38 games,
One game has dynamic resolution between 900p to 1440p
13 games 1080p
8 games 1440p
Your definition of "generally 990p" is different from the meaning of the word.
Zathalus
Member
I'd imagine a ton of those Series S buyers simply get Gamepass. If you have never owned a Xbox then you have a huge amount of games to get through.
Wow 1 exclusive Xbox game, are u arguing against me or for me
Lmao, we’re talking about Gamepass, a subscription service. what does this have to do with exclusivity?
At least you tried.
That dude was a green rat before Series S was even confirmed to exist. The only reason he has a GoW avatar is because he was hoping it was delayed and lost a bet. Still maintained it was going to be delayed after the date was announced.
GHG's comment about him being a child is just tongue in cheek.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That gif would be higher resolution in a PS5 Thread. ...Lower framerate though.
I understood that reference.gif
Making a flagship console is not a novel strategy. But you already knew that.
sainraja
Member
I kinda figured his comment was that but the point of influencing kids at an early age is still valid...with the original Xbox, MS kinda missed on being able to do that since they were the new kid on the block. Not saying they didn't make any impressions on younger kids then but the time was different, gaming was just getting rid of its 'for kids only' image. I know PS1 was instrumental in starting that.
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It’s exactly what I was saying, Series S isn’t for the vocal minority that visit here, it’s to blanket the masses, it’s not about delivering a good product, it’s about blanketing the market and taking market share.
So many raging fanbois of both systems have no fucking clue about the first thing about business.
Oh “it’s holding this gen back” no, the initial price point decision of both of the main units is going to hold this generation back.
So many raging fanbois of both systems have no fucking clue about the first thing about business.
Oh “it’s holding this gen back” no, the initial price point decision of both of the main units is going to hold this generation back.
What the hell, nobody said it's novel or isn't novel. I was only replying to somebody who didn't see why he made that statement about Series S only. What the narrative was.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That to me is an even worse scenario because that indicates that Gamepass is holding back their software revenues.
Topher
Gold Member
Perhaps, but not based on that list. That list hasn't been updated since July of last year.
And explains their increase in subscription growth at the same time.
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Precisely why I said that narrative doesn’t make sense.
CEO is reporting to shareholders the outcome of a novel strategy they went with. Simple.
I think more than enough people have already pointed out to you that software revenues have been down across the board.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So, what happened to the other half?
they owned an xbox one s or x or series x before.