Ok why it shouldn't be illegal ?
I mean hoarding say vegetables or Onions to hike the price in the market is illegal in many countries. Why can't same be implemented to the electronic devices ?
Yes, but they're screwing over the people who want the products but cannot afford to buy them above MSRP.The people who buy them are the ones making poor choices.
Yeah, maybe those that want a console should wait a little longer instead of asking for big daddy government to screw over the economy.Yes, but they're screwing over the people who want the products but cannot afford to buy them above MSRP.
No, they aren't.Food or medicine or some other necessity are a different story.
You're immoral.No, they aren't.
I don't give a shit about morality.You're immoral.
Yes, but they're screwing over the people who want the products but cannot afford to buy them above MSRP.
You're immoral.
Price controls are not the same thing.No, they aren't.
Yes, they are. You're forcing people to sell a product at a given price regardless of market reality.Price controls are not the same thing.
I haven't personally been affected by the low supply and scalping; I've been able to get an RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming (which I've returned to Micro Center), a PNY REVEL EPIC-X RTX 3090, an EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming, and a PlayStation 5 - all from legitimate retailers.Then wait a few more months? The scalping that is going on will last only as long as supply isn't meeting demand. Look back throughout the history of game launches and not long after supply catches up to demand. Just wait if you can't secure one or can't afford the ridiculous scalping prices, it's a videogame console not water or food.
so scalping shouldn't be illegal but you support private efforts to avoid it?Any scalping is the fault of retailers. There was a reason Sony limited their orders to 1 per household.
It's more the difference between commodities and luxury items. The reason there are laws to prevent scalping of things like water, vegetables and raw materials is because people need those thing to survive. Nobody needs a PlayStation to survive.Those examples are perishable products, so not the same thing.
You misunderstand. I never said anyone should be forced to sell at any price. A merchant should be free to set his own price. That's different to someone buying all the stock to create an artificial scarcity specifically to create a profit.Yes, they are. You're forcing people to sell a product at a given price regardless of market reality.
You know how if you outlaw scalpers and now have to wait for the manufacturer to increase supply? And now you don't have access to the product at all?
Now try that but with food and medicine.
In my case, they were called "bachaqueros".
Now people wishes they were back.
Yeah, but the problem is the merchant isn't allowed to increase the price.You misunderstand. I never said anyone should be forced to sell at any price. A merchant should be free to set his own price. That's different to someone buying all the stock to create an artificial scarcity specifically to create a profit.
The companies cannot do anything to combat scalper groups purchasing thousands of units; when scalpers can acquire that many units, then companies simply cannot produce enough supply.
Forcing a price will lead to a black market. Retailers should be free to raise prices yes.Yeah, but the problem is the merchant isn't allowed to increase the price.
38 of the 50 states made price gouging illegal.
You know what can mitigate (not necessarily erase) the scalper situation? Allowing retailers to increase their price above MSRP.
Hang them, hang them!
But I don't want to punish those that buy in bulk and resale at a higher price. Let them deal with the lose of money when no one buys from them.Forcing a price will lead to a black market. Retailers should be free to raise prices yes.
Can you list them? I'm fairly sure I don't want to move into civilization by mistake.Actually I believe this is already illegal outside of dumbistan: bulk buying and reselling are legal, uppricing without distribution right is absolutely illegal and considered counterband trafficking (in civilised countries).
Selling your used stuff for any reason you want should not be controlled by the government.
If I had bought a PS5 and decided I needed the money I can get from selling it more than the actual machine I should be able to sell it back... that includes the possibility of a profit.
Also, note that there is a chance that some will not be able to sell their scalped consoles--don't be stupid about it, wait for stocks to come back and get a console from the second or third revision.... save money and don't encourage practices you disagree with. If nobody buys them, that won't happen at all when the next consoles launch.
I can see you have a lot of supply chain management experience, maybe they should hire you.Scalping, flipping has been addressed this console launch but it’s not illegal practice. You got people spending hours on Walmart, Target sites up till 3 am trying to get consoles clicking refresh and so that’s more of an issue than scalping to me. Target, SONY and their lack of stock is the issue.
Just playing devils advocate...I voted yes because it would also apply to morons who panic buy.
Just make it illegal to sell someone x-amount of one item.
Scalping sucks, but the State shouldn’t do anything about it. All it does is create even more problems to an already terrible situation (believe me, I’m from Brazil, the king of intervention).
I wouldn't want to either. Only in situations where people's lives become collateral damage is when problems would arise.But I don't want to punish those that buy in bulk and resale at a higher price. Let them deal with the lose of money when no one buys from them.
Allow retailers to increase prices and watch how scalpers are forced to drop the price in order to compete, losing money in the process.