Hezekiah
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Arent you the same clown who said GamePass could have 100m subscribers in a couple years? You're too broke to actually buy games, but not too broke to buy powerful mind-altering drugs apparently
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Phil Spencer confirms that some new future Bethesda titles will be Xbox and PC exclusive
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
He has a PC, and he understands that a Japanese conglomerate like Sony will never be bought by Microsoft, no matter how much their no.1 shill wants it to happen.
You mad, Bro?
i said 60/80 during this gen but yes I'm the same "clown" you are still the fanboy who is crying abouth bethesda being bought by ms?Arent you the same clown who said GamePass could have 100m subscribers in a couple years? You're too broke to actually buy games, but not too broke to buy powerful mind-altering drugs apparently
and when a fanboy reaches the end of the barrel he begins to insult. reported
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Mercenary09
Member
Hey Microsoft isn't saying otherwise so you can't blame people. "Some future games will be exclusive" means that some future games won't be exclusive. We're not talking about Deathloop here which is about to be out.
Hezekiah
Banned
I think most will, but some will be on other consoles because of too much money left on the table. But yeah, it'll have to be passed on to consumers somehow.
I get it, you didn't get the news you were expecting today and you need to try to hide your disappointment. But eight smilies isn't going to change anything...go to bed and sleep it off. Maybe you'll feel better in the morning
You mad, Bro?
.No you definitely floated 80 - 100m as a possibility. Basically pulling numbers from thin air there lol.
Demon2blades
Member
Hey 110/120 million consoles sold is great I think they'd settle for that aswell as releasing games on pc with what ever bonus that brings ontop .
Arkam
Member
So in the end PC and Nintendo Switch was the smart play this gen.... not that surprising. Usually one needs a trio to play all the games. Now, if they are patient they can have it all with only two. Sony/MS.... you did this to yourselves this time in an attempt to out flank the other.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
He has a PC, and he understands that a Japanese conglomerate like Sony will never be bought by Microsoft, no matter how much their no.1 shill wants it to happen
Ow i see itās Catlady, well yeah not really a smart person. Just someone living in a fantasy world. I never understand the āthey can buy thisā, āthey buy thatā, or āthey are the richest companyā. Are these people getting money from them or something?
Varteras
Gold Member
I feel like this is one of those things that isn't going to get clarification any time soon. Also, is Bethesda being treated as separate from Xbox Game Studios? I wasn't clear on how the structure will work. I would have assumed they would fall under that umbrella but it kinda sounded like Bethesda will be its own thing.
FrankWza
Member
Actually, whenever they want to buy something they go in their couch cushions, scrape up some change and buy billion dollar companies
Varteras
Gold Member
Bethesda games always felt more Xbox to me as it was. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom... just never felt right on anything but a PC or Xbox. At least for Skyrim I know this was reflected in the sales. It didn't sell nearly as well on PlayStation as it did Xbox and PC. Comments made by Howard and Hines gave me the impression that they kinda felt the same. That as far as consoles go, Xbox had been a better home for them.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
This will be funny when not all games are exclusive and only a few future ones if that.
Some Xbox fans after being humbled in the performance battle after believing microst power PR then clung onto this deal for comfort, but if they were going to make all the games exclusive youd say, all exclusive to xbox, its not difficult.
Xbox has no problem bragging when they have something, but yet here they don't, I wonder why.
Some of xbox guys far too invested in this deal for bragging rights when likely it'll only come back to make them look silly, again.
Some Xbox fans after being humbled in the performance battle after believing microst power PR then clung onto this deal for comfort, but if they were going to make all the games exclusive youd say, all exclusive to xbox, its not difficult.
Xbox has no problem bragging when they have something, but yet here they don't, I wonder why.
Some of xbox guys far too invested in this deal for bragging rights when likely it'll only come back to make them look silly, again.
DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
I played Outsiders demo on PS5 and crashed twice. Then grouped with a friend for a quest. Then lost my progress on my main campaign. Idk if you should use that example.
oldergamer
Member
Right i bet those jerks believe in generations too! Those xbox jerks
FrankWza
Member
No thatās DEgeneration
Brofist
Member
With the most cutting edge components. But they don't actually use them for gaming, just Excel and YouTube.
Blond
Banned
Dmt is a hell of a drugArent you the same clown who said GamePass could have 100m subscribers in a couple years? You're too broke to actually buy games, but not too broke to buy powerful mind-altering drugs apparently
Brofist
Member
What Sony fans see: All of the big titles will release multiplatform. It's better this way anyway, it will be as though MS is hand curating the best ones for us, and they'll probably run better!
What Xbox fans see: Sony will get the multiplayer crap, they'll never see games like Doom or Elder Scrolls.
What PC fans see: Who cares, we get everything and better anyway.
What Xbox fans see: Sony will get the multiplayer crap, they'll never see games like Doom or Elder Scrolls.
What PC fans see: Who cares, we get everything and better anyway.
Aguero9320
Member
This is possibly the weirdest take yet... Who exactly do you think is making the decision over exclusivity?
Microsoft will decide whether anyone will get to play these games outside of Xbox and PC because, you know, they own the whole company...
They have whatever they want here, and itās quite desperately sad to see Sony fanboys trying to both beg and mock at the same time.
Plantoid
Member
Yes, it is. Once in a lifetime experience, dude was probably on something more mundane
Mentat02
Banned
to be fair they are saving their gaming PCs to play Xbox Games. Makes perfect sense.
megreotsugua
Banned
This is a gaming forum. A very focused group. Most members here are also more than 30 yrs old. It wouldn't surprise me that most PS fans here have their own PC too. The 100+ million normal PS players out there don't visit this forum.
DaGwaphics
Member
So this thread titled "Spencer confirms that some new Bethesda titles will be xbox exclusive" will be funny when some new Bethesda games are xbox exclusive?
Whatever floats your boat man.
Batiman
Banned
They always have but are never in PC threads
Buggy Loop
Member
PC with gamepass paid for 2 years when it was dirt cheap, Sony games coming, more and more support from Japanese devs, best VR, best CRPG with Baldurās gate 3. Itās so fucking good...
But Canada computers fucking cancelled my paid for back order of the 3080
But Canada computers fucking cancelled my paid for back order of the 3080
aliadiere25
Member
Philly boy is too scared to take them away from PlayStation for the time being.
It's all in the wording. If they were just Xbox exclusive, he'd state it that way. He states some, meaning the big games like the Elder Scrolls and Starfield will be playable on other platforms.
They're not stupid. Why release it on just one platform.... when you can release it on many platforms and make a shit ton of money in the process? Besides, they have to earn back their 7.5 billion in some way. They may become totally exclusive in like 10 years from now.... but I highly doubt they will in the next 5 years. The smaller titles will be totally exclusive.
It's all in the wording. If they were just Xbox exclusive, he'd state it that way. He states some, meaning the big games like the Elder Scrolls and Starfield will be playable on other platforms.
They're not stupid. Why release it on just one platform.... when you can release it on many platforms and make a shit ton of money in the process? Besides, they have to earn back their 7.5 billion in some way. They may become totally exclusive in like 10 years from now.... but I highly doubt they will in the next 5 years. The smaller titles will be totally exclusive.
aliadiere25
Member
It's all the wording. States that and states some.
I guarantee you the big names will stay on other platforms. The newer and smaller titles will most likely be exclusive to Xbox.
It honestly just doesn't make any sense to make titles like Fallout, Elder Scrolls and Starfield exclusive to Xbox when they can make way more money selling it on other platforms. They eventually will have to earn back those billions they spent.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Again with this? If this were true you would see gt7, God of War, and ratchet and clank on switch and xbox to "make way more money"
You'd also see mario, Zelda, etc on xbox and playstation. Please explain why they don't do this for the billions they invest into these games. Oh wait........
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
should be all them. give PlayStation nothing.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Why do you keep bringing up Steam when all the Bethesda catalogue is already there and all the future titles were coming already with or without this deal? This deal changed nothing.
Days Gone and Horizon are also on Steam so you can add those 120 millions users to Sony too. Their reach is even bigger than Microsoft now with this nonsense you post.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Different moments in MS history and different situations entirely. MS needs to buff Xbox Game Pass and they'll be better just making games exclusives, specially the biggest ones like TESok....but....
DaGwaphics
Member
I agree with you overall. But... there is another way to look at it. Maybe MS likes the idea of Bethesda software basically being free for GP right now (development paid for by the existing PC/PS sales along with the Xbox sales that aren't cannibalized by GP). Maybe that's a good fit for this growth phase of GP, where they have a lot of promotions going etc.
Whatever they have to do to keep making GP better and more inclusive, I'm fine with that. Though the fanboy in me wants to see them beat their chest over these exclusives, the tears from the Sony faithful are totally worth it.
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Except it won't grow gamepass which is mostly console gamers. They need to sell xboxes to grow gamepass now. Giving people a reason to buy a ps5 is not helping sell Xboxes and gamepass. You can only sell so many current xbox owners on gamepass you need fresh blood. You need exclusive content to get new users into the ecosystem.I agree with you overall. But... there is another way to look at it. Maybe MS likes the idea of Bethesda software basically being free for GP right now (development paid for by the existing PC/PS sales along with the Xbox sales that aren't cannibalized by GP). Maybe that's a good fit for this growth phase of GP, where they have a lot of promotions going etc.
Kagey K
Banned
That and the generation is still early enough. Lots of people are assuming Xbox and PS are going to split 2:1 again, but if MS makes the right moves early in the gen they can claw a bunch of that market share back.
Releasing your games on other systems is only going to help you get into the exact same spot you are now.
I would hope MS isnāt sitting back going, āWell as long as we sell 50 mil again we are fine.ā
DaGwaphics
Member
Totally agree, I would completely go the exclusive route. I was just trying to rationalize not going that way. I'm starting to think that MS isn't going full exclusive, just based on the best/first thing and all the vagueness, but we'll see.
But, like I said, would completely go exclusive if I was running the show. Though I wouldn't know wtf I was doing and would probably run things into the ground in a day, so there's that.
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Strider Highwind
Banned
I was planning on getting those games on PC but shit if they bring em to Xbox I might double dip on Deathloop
You make a good point..they definitely got the money to pay/break those deals...could be an interesting explanation for the deathloop delay that came out of nowhere
because we talking about future games ? you know ms will take moneys for this sold games And meanwhile the ps5 games will be able to count "only" on the console userbase which will be at most 110/120 million by the end of the gen the Xbox can virtually count 120 million (continuously growing) from day one. Obviously to these must be added the millions of consoles and all that gamepass xcloud will bring.
Sure you can add those 120 m for as user reach for days gone and horizon. Look, that's it, it's not some sort of meme, If PlayStation released all its games on pc it would have an unparalleled user base imagine how much God of war spiderman and uncharted could sell. But for them it is more complicated because for them the console is still important and releasing everything on the PC would weaken it a lot (which Ms was able to do lightly since anyway Windows it's their property)
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Fredrik
Member
Lol yeah, zero crashes here, mostly above 100fps at Ultra, on a 4 year old graphics cardI played Outsiders demo on PS5 and crashed twice. Then grouped with a friend for a quest. Then lost my progress on my main campaign. Idk if you should use that example.
devilNprada
Member
The phrase "best and first way to play" keeps recurring by more than one exec.
I'm calling the obvious now:
Timed exclusives with exclusive DLC available only on Game pass.
I'm calling the obvious now:
Timed exclusives with exclusive DLC available only on Game pass.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Are these two scenarios (Bethesda Games vs. PlayStation Studios games) even comparable?
Sony makes God of War to sell to PlayStation users. All cost-related and design-related decisions are made in accordance with the available user base.
With Bethesda, it is different. MS does not only have to bear the development cost of the game, but they also need to amortize the $7.5B they paid for the acquisition on top of that. Additionally, PS userbase is 3x higher than Xbox userbase. In other words, keeping games off of PS is roughly 300% more expensive for Xbox than it is for PS to keep games off of Xbox. That's why we see so many high-quality timed exclusives on PS. And that's why recovering that $7.5B acquisition money is an issue for MS -- which is why they said "some new future games will be exclusive."
In other words, Sony recovers the development cost of the game. MS needs to recover the development cost + the $7.5B acquisition cost from Bethesda games to make the investment worthwhile.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Going by ALL the statements from MS, Bethesda, and Phil so far, no dreaming or port begging will be neededwell there it is! shock
stop dreaming or port begging. get an Xbox or a new PC, and then gamepass'd it.
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