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TR Anniversary era yes, Uncharted FUCK NO
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Pete Hines: Indiana Jones (Machine Games) Will be PC/Xbox Only - Will Launch on Game Pass Day 1
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TR Anniversary era yes, Uncharted FUCK NO
I think some people are reading things a bit differently because they are upset that no one is really upset over the substance of the news.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Same dick move than anyone money hating games, thing that others did before them. At least theirs are a not exclusives anymore.
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StealthGoblin
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Marvel’s Spider-Man was never a multiplatform game. Disney approached Sony. Sony approached Insomniac. An Xbox version was never planned.
Whereas
Machine Games/Zenimax pitched a multiplat Indiana Jones game to Disney and signed a deal. Microsoft buy Zenimax and Microsoft pay/rewrite the contract to cancel the PS5 version.
The two scenarios are vastly different.
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DeepEnigma
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I think you're right.
Sleepwalker
Member
Microsoft will respect and honor existing contracts and agreements.*
*if we cannot go back and amend them.
*if we cannot go back and amend them.
splattered
Member
Ehhh i think people are making too big a deal out of it all... both MS and Sony pull this sorta crap.
MS hasn't lied about anything with Bethesda, i don't recall anyone at MS every claiming there were never PS versions of any games planned prior to or after that acquisition. They simply said they will review on case by case basis.. and so far basis has been pump out a few exclusives for Xbox and then probably put out some Multiplat titles that make sense down the road.
graywolf323
Member
basically, that’s probably the only reason Deathloop and Ghostwire released on PS5 as planned, because the contract was with Sony so Microsoft couldn’t get it amended
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Nobody is making a big deal other than those who think people should be more upset, all they are doing is calling out the hypocrisy and double speak. Nothing more.
Like Nick said,
WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS MORE MAD!
tmlDan
Member
no gameplay, Greenberg lied again!
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
So just like MS is doing Xbox + PC?
StealthGoblin
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The difference being Xbox got the Zenimax deal through regulators partially by saying they’d not take games away from PlayStation. Now we know they cancelled Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush, Indiana Jones and have stated Elder Scrolls VI won’t be on PlayStation.
They say one thing and do another. This is why the FTC have a problem.
Or they agreed to increase the budget, production values and media funded by MS and that was a more interesting proposition for Disney. Among other things because it could favor the value of the IP. .... OK, no, no, that's only reasonable if we're talking about SONY.
Pelta88
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StealthGoblin
Banned
It’s as plain as day.
I personally don’t stand to lose a thing through these deals as I don’t play Bethesda or ABK games.
I do think the industry is being harmed.
01011001
Banned
none of the games you listed were ever on PlayStation, therefore they weren't taken away from PlayStation.
so they technically didn't lie.
they clearly meant games that are already on PlayStation, like Elder Scrolls Online, Skyrim, etc. won't be removed or stopped being supported.
never interpet PR speech in the way that benefits users, and always interpret it in a way that benefits the company
if you don't do that, then you gonna be fooled
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
So they will not take away any game from PS as none of those games exists on PS.
DenchDeckard
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So microsoft pays to keep indiana jones off playstation and now they are the bad guy again....
I thought everyone said they want microsoft to do money hats...they just paid Disney to make it exclusive.
Was starfield ever announced for playstation? Was Indiana Jones?
I thought everyone said they want microsoft to do money hats...they just paid Disney to make it exclusive.
Was starfield ever announced for playstation? Was Indiana Jones?
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Fabieter
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There were Sega and Nintendo games years after they got acquired by sony. This isnt the same.
My guy disagreeing with you doesn’t mean the end of the fucking world chill out lol.
Anyways Last I checked, money hatting games to not appear on a competitors consoles isn’t illegal. It’s not like MS buying a publisher forgoes their rights to participate in the age old 1st/2nd/3rd party exclusives. That’s just the game being played. Simple as that.
You are acting like Disney had a gun to its head, they probably were offered a shit ton of cash and royalties. Don’t see why they’d turn down an offer to get a game of there’s made and published and receive some extra cash on top of it lol. Either way, it’s not like this information of usual console deals is a gotcha from the FTC. If anything this is just news, not damning evidence. So again, content and nuance don’t mean shit because this evidence won’t amount to shit.
DenchDeckard
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None of those games were announced for playstation.
Ar¢tos
Member
I'm sorry, but there is no trademark on "Project EVE", only Stellar Blade.
They couldn't continue doing Sega Saturn ports, since it was discontinued in 1998.
BennyBlanco
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Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft
Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft Kinda Funny’s Imran Khan said: There isn’t a major third party out there Sony failed to approach asking what kind of deals they could work out. Some had content, some had games, some had...
Look at all the people cheerleading for Sony for the same thing. Sad!
StealthGoblin
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PlayStation versions were either being made or were planned to be. They cancelled those versions.
It’s widely known information and Bethesda have at times stated it as such themselves.
DeepEnigma
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StealthGoblin
Banned
I’m gonna stop feeding this particular troll. You aren’t discussing in good faith. You know as well as we all do that PlayStation versions of those games were in development.
Yawn. Ignore list.
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rodrigolfp
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There is Minecraft Dungeons on PS and Switch. When there was a Sony game on Xbox and Nintendo console?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Sure it's me the troll. /s .Having an early build or just a single asset already developed doesn't make any difference.
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SmurfMustard
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And they already gave us the best showcase of the summer. Who would have thought they'd top this a few weeks later.
The faux outrage here is…something. Business deals happen, and MS not wanting to tie down a first party studio for years making a multiplatform game isn’t exactly the pinnacle of evil.
The irony isn’t lost that most of the angry folks in this thread are playing a Final Fantasy game today that Sony struck a financial deal with Square to keep off Xbox. Next year’s release will make it three FF games in 4 years. And it’s just business.
I don’t see how this also goes against the ‘case by case’ basis, since we’ve seen MS bring some Bethesda content and games to PlayStation post acquisition.
The irony isn’t lost that most of the angry folks in this thread are playing a Final Fantasy game today that Sony struck a financial deal with Square to keep off Xbox. Next year’s release will make it three FF games in 4 years. And it’s just business.
I don’t see how this also goes against the ‘case by case’ basis, since we’ve seen MS bring some Bethesda content and games to PlayStation post acquisition.
Pallas
Member
True, I think people are misinterpreting that statement when it was made but I also feel like the way it was worded that was the intended reason.none of the games you listed were ever on PlayStation, therefore they weren't taken away from PlayStation.
so they technically didn't lie.
they clearly meant games that are already on PlayStation, like Elder Scrolls Online, Skyrim, etc. won't be removed or stopped being supported.
never interpet PR speech in the way that benefits users, and always interpret it in a way that benefits the company
if you don't do that, then you gonna be fooled
Which I’m gonna assume that any kind of future remakes, remasters of older games of zenimax that were originally on the PlayStation will get ported to that console in the future.
DenchDeckard
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Absolutely, they were planned. That's 100% true.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Therefore, Microsoft have been dicks, again.
Those of us around in the 90s remember it well. They never change.
Dirk Benedict
Member
I used to lambaste Microsoft from here to the Kuiper belt.
Well, well.. after years of abstaining, it seems they are flogging themselves these days. LMAO.
Still looking forward to Starfield, though.
Well, well.. after years of abstaining, it seems they are flogging themselves these days. LMAO.
Still looking forward to Starfield, though.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So let that be a lesson.
Going forward, no more Moneyhats™ lingo should be thrown Sony's way. Amazing how it all NOW comes full circle for those that argued until they were blue in the face prior to this.
Gojiira
Banned
The same goes for Bethesda etc yet every upcoming game is suspiciously Xbox only….MS lie, Water is wet etc
Bumblebeetuna
Gold Member
Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft
Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft Kinda Funny’s Imran Khan said: There isn’t a major third party out there Sony failed to approach asking what kind of deals they could work out. Some had content, some had games, some had...www.neogaf.com
Look at all the people cheerleading for Sony for the same thing. Sad!
It was hailed as a savvy business decision to attempt to drive them out of business then…
Lesson for who? You should probably direct this at those who claimed that, then.
Both are spending money to make 3rd party games exclusive.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I love how you say this without acknowledging that Sony does things like this far more often for console exclusivity, timed or otherwise.
Give me a break with the double standard already
Ironic you make this accusation while posting an obvious lie. When did MS sign a legally binding agreement to make every upcoming Bethesda game multi-platform?
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Well, that is the whole reason you would acquire a company, is to be able to do whatever you want with that company makes.
cireza
Member
Wake me up when I can play SFV, FFVII, Forspoken and FF XVI on Xbox
Same shit everywhere.
People wanted consoles with a better identity ? Well there you have it.
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graywolf323
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Wake me up when I can play SFV, FFVII, Forspoken and FF XVI on Xbox
Same shit everywhere.
People wanted consoles with a better identity ? Well there you have it.
name me one time Sony has bought a publisher that had a contract for a game and renegotiated that contract to cancel the game for a competitor’s platform
the only double standard here is this continued BS that because Sony makes third-party exclusivity agreements (ignoring the fact so does Microsoft!) that that then justifies Microsoft BUYING publishers
edit: of course this point has been made repeatedly before, you both know it and yet you continue to ignore it to instead spread FUD
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RickMasters
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Not comparing their situations...one sort of fell into sonys lap by way of nintendo opting for cartridge over CD. leading to severed ties between Nintendo and square for a decade. the other is MS re-negging terms for a game developed by a studio they own. And they are well within their rights to make the game exclusive. they own the studio. Im not here to talk morals and ethics. but im all for doing what you see fit with what you own. This is all about securing exclusives.. further a a game made by a studio MS owns. plain and simple.
And by the by...... using phrases like "intellectually honest" does not make your stance correct.
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DeepEnigma
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Which is why regulation steps in when you want to buy the largest publishers in the world and "not stop at them" i.e. consolidate the industry to you and only you.Well, that is the whole reason you would acquire a company, is to be able to do whatever you want with that company makes.
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