Cheesemeister
Member
One investor was concerned that there were no women on the board of directors. Safe to assume the person asking was a woman?
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One investor was concerned that there were no women on the board of directors. Safe to assume the person asking was a woman?
That's really not an unreasonable thing to say. It's true in the end. Look at what Nintendo does and what 3rd parties did. Of course that's because Nintendo actually cared. The why is important but at least someone called out the discrepancy in quality of the games on the system. It hasn't gone unnoticed.
Yeah, and it can only help with 3rd party relations.
Now how many of these answers will be taken out of context to create a fun headline on a major site?
metalslimer
Member
Even with all the stupid questions that come out of these I love that we still get some interesting information into Iwata's plans of the future and thoughts about the direction of the company.
The one about certain gamers noticing a small difference in graphics certainly will. I think the biggest question is how many of these quotes will end up right back as individual threads.
The one about certain gamers noticing a small difference in graphics certainly will. I think the biggest question is how many of these quotes will end up right back as individual threads.
Well that's the cycle
it will be a headline on a website
Someone will post the thread here
Someone will point out we already have a thread discussing the entire interview
"But this deserves its own thread"
Rinse and repeat
if the Wii U has a GPGPU it should be capable of most of the graphical effects that the other 2 will be using just scaled down.
You're exactly the sensitive person who he's referring to. Yea, we all know it looks better...not the SD to HD leap, but it is different.
shinobi602
Member
Sensitive? Nah. Hey I'm looking forward to the Wii U as much as many others here (have it set to alert me when it becomes available for pre-order on Amazon), but I'm being realistic.
From the preliminary specs we're hearing about the PS4/720 and what the Wii U's supposed to have, I bet we'll see a large amount of 3rd party devs heavily scaling back games, heck, if not gradually abandoning Wii U development 2 or more years into the Wii U's lifecycle altogether.
It's not a big deal to me really, it's all about the Nintendo games for me with the Wii U.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think market conditions rather than hardware specs will be the big determining factor there. Wii U could go either the way of PS2 or the way of Wii pretty easily.
I expect PS360 will also be getting "prime" support much longer than previous consoles did after generational transitions. Amd not just the annual COD/WWE/EASports junk either.
This is what immediately jumped out at me :lol
Even the most insipid of their questions was more dignified than publishing an "article" measuring a company's worth in toilet paper.
LOL, that's the great thing about general meetings. Anybody can show up and throw in a question.
walking fiend
Member
There are two notions:
1. Wii U games looks worse compared to PS4/Nextbo
2. Wii U doesn't get the game due to being underpowered
I am fairly positive in the case of #1, a lot of people won't care enough to buy another console just because of graphics; as long as the games are there. I am also mostly positive on the PC, most people don't have high end hardware to play games in their highest possible IQ.
I love this quote:
"The video game business is known for the characteristic that it is pretty hard to forecast a sales outcome before the subject product is actually launched in the market. If employees cannot work comfortably due to a concern for the fluctuations of their compensation condition in accordance with such ups and downs, we cannot create a working environment where they can steadily create unique, out-of-box products because although these products may be called revolutionary later on after being widely accepted in the world, they are more likely to be criticized as crazy ideas in the beginning. In order to create such a product steadily, its our policy not to place our employees in a situation where they have to be excessively influenced by our immediate financial performance."
"The video game business is known for the characteristic that it is pretty hard to forecast a sales outcome before the subject product is actually launched in the market. If employees cannot work comfortably due to a concern for the fluctuations of their compensation condition in accordance with such ups and downs, we cannot create a working environment where they can steadily create unique, out-of-box products because although these products may be called revolutionary later on after being widely accepted in the world, they are more likely to be criticized as crazy ideas in the beginning. In order to create such a product steadily, its our policy not to place our employees in a situation where they have to be excessively influenced by our immediate financial performance."
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
And this is why through thick and thin I'll love Nintendo: they are first and foremost a game company and they actually care about making games all the way to the top.
gamergirly
Member
It looks like they are pointing toward a Fall Conference. But being realistic, I don't expect Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, Final Fantasy U, Miyamoto Unique Game 1, Miyamoto Unique Game 2, AND ETC AND ETC AND ETC to ALL be there
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Could just be Yamauchi. Who do you think he takes to the love hotels but semi-hot high level execs and board members. Yamauchi does not take generic gutta trash. Queens and Princesses service the great One.
TLDR: Stocks, how do they work?
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
They didn't ask that but he commented, in a way:
From the answer to the 9th question. Read the whole thing so you don't get confused about the difference between social and mobile. Some comments, w/o context, can be confusing.
To answer your question: they are not interested in replicating tablet or smart phone environments. They want to differentiate from them and give people a reason why they still need consoles (two screens). It seems some of the lessons of last gen are not lost on them when they are in the opposite position.
TLDR: Iwata basically ethered GAF. Seems like Ninty does a lot of market research on themselves and their products. They seem to have a highly nuanced view of themselves. Makes me feel like they do get it and the past 2 E3s have been bad luck or planning. Maybe some trouble with the games and not the platform? Some transitional problems going to HD?
(He's an expert)
What I found funny about that was I expected them to come rolling in Royces being driven and whatnot. How much of a share do you need to attend this meeting?
EmCeeGramr
Member
Okay which of you was this
KillerTravis
Banned
Iwata was too polite with his respone. I can only imagine what someone like David Jaffe would've told to that shareholder.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Now I really want to hear that guy's presentation. What was his plan!?
judging by the way he posed the question, I suspect it involves Mario plushies, a Miyamoto shrine and Cheetos.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Iwata basically said this at the last shareholder meeting and pointed to Western support 3rd party support coming at E3.
So what did we get at E3? Castlevania, Scribblenauts, Epic Mickey... what else?
EDIT: I actually thought this was the other thread about the 3DS Western support in particular and it turns out I already posted in that thread. It's only 6:30 PM, I shouldn't be this crazy yet.
So what did we get at E3? Castlevania, Scribblenauts, Epic Mickey... what else?
EDIT: I actually thought this was the other thread about the 3DS Western support in particular and it turns out I already posted in that thread. It's only 6:30 PM, I shouldn't be this crazy yet.
Castlevania comes from a Japanese publisher, Japanese ip, Spanish developer. Certainly not a boast for Western publishers supporting the system. The 3DS line up was SAD. SAD. SAD.
Well technically he was right. A lot of people said "WOW, what a piece of shit."
So he's probably right about WiiU and the next-gen consoles. People will notice little difference..only to those with myopia and refuse to wear glasses.
metalslimer
Member
Cute
KillerTravis
Banned
You sound so hardcore.
I remember for a while after Wii came out there was a very real contingent of individuals that were arguing they couldn't tell the difference between HD visuals and SD visuals... I think even Dragona was one of them. Sometimes people really are just close to blind. One time someone said Dragon Quest IX (I think it was) had better graphics than Uncharted 2. Seriously. Nutcases.
That said, I never understood how visuals are somehow the one thing that this core group of Nintendo supporters never seem to raise their standards for, even though it's one of the cornerstones of what is important in gaming. They raise their standards for controllers, sound, even aesthetic beauty of the console itself... but when it comes to the "graphix", if you acknowledge they're important and note huge distinctions between game packages on this ground, and then make informed purchasing decisions based on this fact... you're an "elitist" who doesn't care about what is "important" in games. Like gimmicky motion based mini-games or some shit!
But more directly to this Q&A, I lol'd at this:
Seriously, Iwata, I know Nintendo is still in the internet stone age, but I can assure you any so-called "protection" you think you have created has already been circumvented a billion times before by people who actually know how to use the internet. Stop being coy and just admit to precisely what type of police-state policies you're going to implement so we can get a head start on ignoring its dumbness
Sammy Samusu
Member
SatelliteOfLove
Member
They do sound like a crowd I'd love to have to grovel to...
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Yeah, I hate this attitude from certain people. Caring about games that have good graphics makes you a "graphics whore" in the eyes of some people. I think it stems from the Nintendo PR line that they are focusing on gameplay and not graphics, as if you can't have both.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
People can be so very smart, attacking others they disagree with as nutcases with sweeping generalizations while leaving just enough room to be able to say "we just meant those seriously nuts people, are you one of those to be offended?" when called out for it, as if it's worth bringing them up at all in a discussion. I didn't know people can be that smart! I should take notes.
Btw you can have great graphics that serve their intention and purpose more than merely sufficiently with lower end tech. Not every PS3 game looks like The Last of Us but they sure can look and play great. And if you really want the best graphics around as so important to need to be at the top of the line technically rather than merely aesthetically pleasant to one's tastes then there's really no solution other than the PC, every time, even if it at times may seem like consoles one up them for a short launch period.
I doubt anyone has been called a graphics whore for admiring a game's graphics either, though I could see it happening if one flat out brags about refusing to play a game based on its display resolution or whatever. I mean, any serious PC gamer can easily go back to gog style games, and so could easily play worthwhile Wii or whatever other underpowered or simply older system too. I'd imagine. It's certainly easy for me but yeah, whatever works for others, it's not like I'd promote forcing people to play something they don't enjoy. But yeah, I certainly wouldn't call those who can names or diminish them with out of the blue generalizations.
Btw you can have great graphics that serve their intention and purpose more than merely sufficiently with lower end tech. Not every PS3 game looks like The Last of Us but they sure can look and play great. And if you really want the best graphics around as so important to need to be at the top of the line technically rather than merely aesthetically pleasant to one's tastes then there's really no solution other than the PC, every time, even if it at times may seem like consoles one up them for a short launch period.
I doubt anyone has been called a graphics whore for admiring a game's graphics either, though I could see it happening if one flat out brags about refusing to play a game based on its display resolution or whatever. I mean, any serious PC gamer can easily go back to gog style games, and so could easily play worthwhile Wii or whatever other underpowered or simply older system too. I'd imagine. It's certainly easy for me but yeah, whatever works for others, it's not like I'd promote forcing people to play something they don't enjoy. But yeah, I certainly wouldn't call those who can names or diminish them with out of the blue generalizations.
metalslimer
Member
I think its more the people that claim Wii games are unplayable because of their graphics that are somewhat annoying. For example that Xenoblade article from a few months back. I do agree that there are some extreme people who take the mentality too far.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I would agree that the opposite is annoying, too, yes. But honestly some of these Wii games looks terrible on HDTV's even with component cables.
They look the same to me as PS2 games and I'm not opposed to how those look at all. Have PS2 games always looked terrible to you? If not, how did those standards change? I'd understand if it were games with PS1 level graphics, because those were always too limited and looked bad even at the time, but Wii/Gamecube/PS2 level is completely fine by me.
I go from my PS3 to my Wii on the same HDTV without trouble. But of course I'm not talking about shovelware games here, those are awful anywhere. More like mid to high level games. Like, say, Sin & Punishment 2. Completely acceptable visuals by my standards on that game and on par with the PS2 levels I was talking about.
Haha, I saw VOOK's new tweet:
http://kotaku.com/5923341/nintendo-says-game-consoles-have-been-tv-parasites
GAF -> Kotaku
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Given the 360 and PS3 already struggle with Battlefield 3 I don't have confidence that the WiiU will be able to keep parity with next gen.
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