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In a recent interview, Matt Booty (head of Microsoft studios) stated that, games from the recently acquired studios aren't going to be "90 hour AAA games" but games that can be close to AAA games built by small teams.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

 

[Entroyp]

Uh oh.. So fillers for gamepass like those pirate and zombie games.

 

[GymWolf]

is this real life?
this has to be fake.

 

[greencoder]

I'd rather pick a superb 20h game than a 90h monotonous game.

 

[SlimySnake]

no idea what hes saying here. only the witcher 3 is a 90 hour AAA game. most games top out at 30-50 hours. RDR2, GoW, TLOU2, Horizon etc are in that range.

I am ok with an 8-10 hour campaign. nothing wrong with that. But i think hes saying we wont even have that. I dont want Hellblade quality AAA games from them. I want something like Uncharted or the PS3 god of war games. 10-15 hours max is fine with me.

 

[cookiemuffin]

So these studios can put out games fast to fill up XGP. I doubt MS has the patience to wait for 3-5 years for one AAA game like Sony.

 

[mejin]

Bernkastel

explain this shit, please.

 

[Nikana]

Way to cut the clip right after he explains what he means.

 

[sincarra]

Filler.

 

[Represent.]

Yeah. This is where MS has jack shit on Sony. Games.
Sony will come out swinging with Horizon 2 while MS gives us more Halo, Forza 8 and some indie shit.

 

[quest]

is this real life?
this has to be fake.

It's out of context of course unless you think halo infinity is a indy level game and the newest forza games too lol.

 

[GHG]

So games like State of Decay, Bleeding Edge and Sea of Thieves basically.

No thanks, not even via gamepass.

 

[Psykodad]

So, 6 hour AA games?

I mean, they got Hellblade 2.

 

[Leyasu]

So they invested seriously in studios and made an impressive next gen console just for gamepass filler?

We'll see. Besides, the message coming from the new studios and Phil has been that they can do what they want. I am more inclined to believe that most of the acquired studios were bought because they can have small teams working on side projects, whilst maintaining large projects at the same time. Look at NT with Bleeding edge and Hellblade 2 and Obsidian with The outer worlds, their new survival game and the fact that they have confirmed a new RPG is in the works.

 

[Bankai]

There are plenty of GREAT indie / AA games out there. Who cares if it's AA/indie, when you got games like:
- Inside
- Dead Cells
- Undertale
- Gravity Rush
- Dragons Dogma
And I wonder what I would call a game like The Outer Worlds, 'cause it's not AAA right?

 

[Sacred]

Yeah this a load of horseshit, cuts off the video before explaining what he actually meant. Teams with multiple teams won't be building 90 hour titles, but they will have a flagship team developing a big budget title and the smaller teams with a lower budget then AAA titles.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

I'm curious what 90 hour AAA titles are currently available anyway (excluding multiplayer games whose length depends moreso on quality instead of raw quantity of content).

We all have our favs, sure, and I've sunk 100s of hours into certain games, but most AAA titles only last me 10-40 hours.

I don't understand why they'd phrase it this way.

 

[GymWolf]

It's out of context of course unless you think halo infinity is a indy level game and the newest forza games too lol.

i mean, i have no fear for halo\gears\forza but all the other games like new fable or new obsidian game or inxile game or rare game etc.

 

[toxiichollow]

i advise anyone to actually watch the WHOLE interview, this qoute was taken out of context.

 

[Okami Haundo]

I'd rather pick a superb 20h game than a 90h monotonous game.

My thoughts exactly! While I love AAA games, it's a bit exhausting anymore to see how many games go past the 40 hour mark. If we're determining AA vs AAA by length, I'd rather AA all day.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm curious what 90 hour AAA titles are currently available anyway (excluding multiplayer games whose length depends moreso on quality instead of raw quantity of content).

We all have our favs, sure, and I've sunk 100s of hours into certain games, but most AAA titles only last me 10-40 hours.

I don't understand why they'd phrase it this way.

i think he was talking about open world or action rpg games where you put at least 50 (to 100) hours.
90 hours was an exageration on his part probably.

 

[SuperLupeRap]

is this real life?
this has to be fake.

Not sure what he's talking about

https://segmentnext.com/2020/02/24/obsidian-next-gen-aaa-rpg/

Playground Games hiring 177 developers for 'new AAA open world RPG'

Hiring sprees are interesting to say the least.

www.windowscentral.com

PlayGround and Oblivion are working on AAA games, same for The initiative

 

[squarealex]

feel the power.

 

[GymWolf]

Not sure what he's talking about

https://segmentnext.com/2020/02/24/obsidian-next-gen-aaa-rpg/

Playground Games hiring 177 developers for 'new AAA open world RPG'

Hiring sprees are interesting to say the least.

www.windowscentral.com

PlayGround and Oblivion are working on AAA games, same for The initiative

good news, i want to play these games with massive money support from microsoft.

 

[Goliathy]

I'd rather pick a superb 20h game than a 90h monotonous game.

yeah aint nobody got time for that

 

[BatSu]

Ok. we already know that we will have 100 titles of 89h and also

 

[Bergoglio]

Are there any 90-hours Sony AAA exclusives?

 

[Shmunter]

God damn shame, but not unexpected with a gamepass system as focus. Also expecting saas as the dominant category.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

I'd rather pick a superb 20h game than a 90h monotonous game.

This, so much..
Fuck those stupid time wasters.

 

[mortal]

I don't understand this metric. More game length doesn't necessarily guarantee a better experience.

Sometimes games overstay their welcome if the pacing, game design or controls are bad. Regardless if they're 15 hours long or 80 hours long.

 

[The Cartographer]

I'm curious what 90 hour AAA titles are currently available anyway (excluding multiplayer games whose length depends moreso on quality instead of raw quantity of content).

We all have our favs, sure, and I've sunk 100s of hours into certain games, but most AAA titles only last me 10-40 hours.

I don't understand why they'd phrase it this way.

''Keep your expectations really low, players'', is what I think he's trying to say,
Some people think MS' new studios are going to shit nonstop quality games in the upcoming gen, but I think they've got another thing coming.

 

[Birdo]

It was kind of obvious from the Devs that they purchased, with exception to Obsidian.

These studios would be making AA filler stuff for Game Pass, and the bigger ones will be doing the big franchise stuff.

 

[Andodalf]

If this means more high AA games like the outer worlds I’m all for it

 

[GHG]

There are plenty of GREAT indie / AA games out there. Who cares if it's AA/indie, when you got games like:
- Inside
- Dead Cells
- Undertale
- Gravity Rush
- Dragons Dogma
And I wonder what I would call a game like The Outer Worlds, 'cause it's not AAA right?

The problem is that they don't have a great track record of producing AA games. Their best output in recent years has been AAA.

The Ori games are the only AA games that they've published that are worth shouting about but those games were made by Moon who are an independent studio.

They've got a lot of work and progress to make if they want to make games worth a damn in this segment.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

As long as they remain priced as such, I don’t see a big deal. And clearly this interview was edited out of context because we know some of the studios are working on AAA titles.

 

[SleepDoctor]

Sounds like a failure. Thats what you're going to have people wait 2 years for?

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

i think he was talking about open world or action rpg games where you put at least 50 (to 100) hours.
90 hours was an exageration on his part probably.

I could be out of touch with the modern AAA market for those genres but I'm guessing most people still only sink 40-60 hours (on average) into stuff like AssCreed and Red Dead Redemption 2.

Are there any 90-hour Sony AAA exclusives?

...Or Nintendo?

...Or any major AAA publisher?

I'm curious why they're holding themselves up to this standard when competitors aren't.

 

[Sacred]

Compulsion, The Intiative, Playground, Ninja Theory, and Inxile have already said they have big budget AAA titles in the works. We know Obsidian has 2 in the works, of course 343 and Coalition will be given a blank check. So that the majority of the studios, this is 100% clickbait.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I think I understand what he was trying to say, but I don’t think he chose his words very carefully here

 

[GHG]

yeah aint nobody got time for that

Of course not when you have over 10 GAF accounts to take care of.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

are going to shit nonstop quality games in the upcoming gen

time wasters != quality games

 

[Andodalf]

I could be out of touch with the modern AAA market for those genres but I'm guessing most people still only sink 40-60 hours (on average) into stuff like AssCreed and Red Dead Redemption 2.


...Or Nintendo?

...Or any major AAA publisher?

I'm curious why they're holding themselves up to this standard when competitors aren't.

I’d say RDR, ACO, ES, DA all fit his bill of huge AAA 90 hr games

 

[eastwood333]

Clearly taken out of context.
Gears 5, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break,Halo 5,Forza Horizon 4,etc are as AAA as it gets.


And majority of Sony exclusives are 8-15 hr games.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

The problem is that they don't have a great track record of producing AA games. Their best output in recent years has been AAA.

The Ori games are the only AA games that they've published that are worth shouting about but those games were made by Moon who are an independent studio.

They've got a lot of work and progress to make if they want to make games worth a damn in this segment.

But Inxile, Obsidian, Ninja Theory and Double Fine all SCREAM AA game, literally.

I think that's what he wanted to say.

 

[GymWolf]

I could be out of touch with the modern AAA market for those genres but I'm guessing most people still only sink 40-60 hours (on average) into stuff like AssCreed and Red Dead Redemption 2.


...Or Nintendo?

...Or any major AAA publisher?

I'm curious why they're holding themselves up to this standard when competitors aren't.

depends on how much time you lose with completionist stuff, sidequest, etc.
both rdr2 and ac odissey are full of stuff to do so 100 hours are not so hard to imagine for some people.

i mean, i did almost 100 hours on horizon just because i love the combat system...

 

[GHG]

I’d say RDR, ACO, ES, DA all fit his bill of huge AAA 90 hr games

Third party publishers tend to make those games, not first party. The risk is too high to produce games that big and elaborate only to release them on a single platform.

 

[eastwood333]

I’d say RDR, ACO, ES, DA all fit his bill of huge AAA 90 hr games

Yeah, games like RDR2,GTA5,AC Odyssey etc... have over 700 devs working on them.

 

[Bergoglio]

I could be out of touch with the modern AAA market for those genres but I'm guessing most people still only sink 40-60 hours (on average) into stuff like AssCreed and Red Dead Redemption 2.


...Or Nintendo?

...Or any major AAA publisher?

I'm curious why they're holding themselves up to this standard when competitors aren't.

Maybe someone thinks that Sony can produce exclusives titles like RDR2? They don't do it with Santa Monica, Guerrilla, Naughty Dog.

 

[44alltheway]

This interview is months old, also that is a PS fanboy account