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[Exanthus]

damn that made me wince

 

[Topher]

They censored Devil May Cry even lol.

 

[Dr Bass]

After seeing the scene in the demo though ... yeah it's "gross" but doesn't seem much worse than what's in some other games overall. I wonder what makes them censor this but let you brutally stab people in the neck in The Last of Us 2?

 

[Fake]

I agree. Sony is overreaching. The industry has established effective self-governance for content. If the ESRB gives it a M rating then that should be all Sony should care about.

And open gates for what can or not be consider 'bad'.

I mean, I live in Brazil, do you know Counter Strike is banned here? Wonder why? Because only single custom map made by a brazillian make the entire game been forbidden.
Meanwhile the 'remember, no russian' CoD works here just fine.

 

[SLB1904]

Who is "you guys"?

this guy is old lol

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It's for the best. The PlayStation Nation can't be thinking of Lady's ass when we're waging war

 

[SentientStone]

China... I mean Sony!

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Also Sony will come to your door and seize your PS5 if you try to stream:

 

[IntentionalPun]

Hmm... Guess they must have changed then. (they published this game themselves)

I mean, yeah, allegedly a pretty recent thing.

 

[lame gag1990]

If only we had an age rating system.

 

[Sensei]

The developer should've just refused to publish the censored version and opt-out of the platform. But I guess every penny counts for an indie/small studio so I get why they obliged, even though I don't know how much they could make out of it now.

 

[cormack12]

Tbh I found some stuff in Until Dawn worse or more intimately close to me as a player like this (3mins onwards)

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

This shit makes me hard

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Sony can release a gore fest like TLOU II but censors other developers games.

What are they censoring? I know boobs are considered worse than cannibalism according to ESRB.

 

[ChiefDada]

I agree. Sony is overreaching. The industry has established effective self-governance for content. If the ESRB gives it a M rating then that should be all Sony should cares about.

Respectfully, no. They are two separate entities with their own code of standards and distinct governance. A movie can be rated PG, but if I deem it's content inappropriate for my child, I don't defer to the MPAA's judgement.

 

[A.Romero]

Fuck that, it's stupid to censor games. At least they didn't deny certification but nothing legal should be off-limits to games. If movies can do it, games should too.

From everything Sony has changed over the years, this kind of shit is what disgusts me the most. Luckily the game is available on other platforms so I guess is Sony's loss. Too bad for people that would like to play the uncut version and don't have access to other platforms.

 

[Lognor]

hey!, marketing is marketing.

Yeah, I'm guessing the dev paid Sony to censor the game on Playstation. Now they get all this press. Smart!
/s

 

[YeulEmeralda]

That is pretty horrible.

Have you people never seen a surgery?

 

[ChiefDada]

Yeah, I'm guessing the dev paid Sony to censor the game on Playstation. Now they get all this press. Smart!

Nvm

 

[Faust]

I have seen far worse from Sony first party releases in the past couple of years.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Sorry obviously I was talking about your ass CatLady not DMC Lady

I'm a faithful man

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

I saw the scene and it is horrible, but at the same time, it is a horror game. I think censorship is not needed, those who will play are horror fans.

 

[Topher]

Have you people never seen a surgery?

No, and I never want to.

Respectfully, no. They are two separate entities with their own code of standards and distinct governance. A movie can be rated PG, but if I deem it's content inappropriate for my child, I don't defer to the MPAA's judgement.

That's fine, but you are making judgements for you and your child. Here, Sony is making that judgement for you. Not the same.

And I have no knowledge of Sony's "code of standards" beyond them just forcing changes when they see fit to do so. If they want to be open about this then make it clear what those standards are. Right now, it seems like some in the censorship department is just making calls based on "cause I say so".

 

[Aenima]

Its a sick and disturbing scene, but i guess that was the developers intentions for that scene. How can videogames grow as a media if we keep censoring anything that we are not confortable with?

Thers a age and content rating system for the games for a reason.

If i was the developer i would just not bothered editing the game just to please the snowflakes at sony that are in charge of this decisions. And if they refused to sell it on they store i would be ok with that.

As a player i refuse to buy any censored game.

 

[Lognor]

You've posted some real head scratchers in the past but this one is in a league of it's own.

Shit! I forgot the /s
Edited it in!

Sony is just being stupid. No money changed hands.

 

[CatLady]

Sorry obviously I was talking about your ass CatLady not DMC Lady

I'm a faithful man

You're such a weirdo.
Now go get me some Doritos and Mountain Dew and STFU

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You're such a weirdo.
Now go get me some Doritos and Mountain Dew and STFU

Yes my queen

 

[ckaneo]

They censored Devil May Cry even lol.

The sex censors were out of bounds. I feel like there was more to that story because it didnt make sense

 

[Boglin]

Don't know why that scene is considered too graphic for Sony considering a lot of other shit in games, including ones they've developed.
Maybe I've just grown thick skin from watching super hardcore movies like "Face/Off".

Spoiler: ADULTS ONLY

 

[Oddvintagechap]

I have seen far worse from Sony first party releases in the past couple of years.

Let me see.

 

[mortal]

This is fucking dumb. Either enforce it in every single game with depictions of gruesome, visceral violence or don't enforce it at all.

The Last of Us Part II is full of brutality.
Grand Theft Auto games are literally criminal simulators that you can murder innocent bystander NPCs in droves.
Resident Evil games are full of grotesques and macabre violence & gore.

The notion that video games, as a medium, are not allowed to push the edge in terms of violence or mature themes is absurd.
If playing or watching those sections made you feel something, then good, the point is to make you feel something.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Next Mortal Kombat deffo not coming out on PS5. It's no different to me.

 

[LOLCats]

Rofl.... im outrage at the principle and this will not go un remembered as i continue to buy more titles on xbox.

sorry soony

 

[Warablo]

Respectfully, no. They are two separate entities with their own code of standards and distinct governance. A movie can be rated PG, but if I deem it's content inappropriate for my child, I don't defer to the MPAA's judgement.

Sony's your dad confirmed?

 

[mejin]

Hope devs sell something after this breaking news cause no one cared about the game till now.

 

[Faust]

Let me see.

TLOU2 is the most prominent and apt example.

 

[anthony2690]

Sony can release a gore fest like TLOU II but censors other developers games.

And have the weird unnecessary sex scene with abbey's boobs flapping away into the camera.

 

[squarealex]

Sick bullshit like this shouldn't be present in games tbh. In this case i fully agree with Sony.

wat...
awful shit
Don't agree for all censore case... but... yeah.. can't like extreme gore shit

 

[CatLady]

And have the weird unnecessary sex scene with abbey's boobs flapping away into the camera.

Ewww, that's far more unnerving than the scene that was censored in this game.

 

[Swift_Star]

Sick bullshit like this shouldn't be present in games tbh. In this case i fully agree with Sony.

I was ready to say this sucks but I also sgree with this. Disgusting.

 

[Topher]

And have the weird unnecessary sex scene with abbey's boobs flapping away into the camera.

I loved the game but that shit was weird. Can you imagine the weird looks Druckmann was getting from the women in his studio after seeing that?

 

[ChiefDada]

Here, Sony is making that judgement for you

No, Sony is making a judgement for it's product offering and perhaps its brand. You (the proverbial you) have chosen to be a member/consumer of their ecosystem and disagree with them not providing that particular product. Thankfully, there are other platforms that are offering what you desire, as the tweet indicates.

If they want to be open about this then make it clear what those standards are. Right now, it seems like some in the censorship department is just making calls based on "cause I say so".

Fair points but all companies are flexible in how they choose to apply their standards because different situations have different context.

Edit: I was wrong.

 

[Reallink]

I think they meant "baby sister" which is a weird way to say younger sister, not actually a baby.

Assuming the YT video is the scene in question, they very clearly "meant" to be disingenuous and intentionally misrepresent the content to engender support for Sony's censorship and outrage at the developers. Which works, as you see even Alt Right FreedomGAF took at 180 to overwhelming approval for Sony when game was supposedly about leatherfacing an infant. Which even if it was, I'd be fine with as I can distinguish shock horror and a polygonal mesh from reality--just as any functional adult should be able to.

 

[IFireflyl]

From the ESRB Website:

This a horror adventure game in which players assume the role of a woman (Guilia) trying to solve the mystery of her twin sister's murder. From a first-person perspective, players explore an Italian countryside in 1944, interact with characters, solve puzzles and gather clues to the murder. As the narrative progresses, the game depicts surreal, nightmare sequences of intense violence: Guilia cutting the face off a corpse and wearing its flesh; Guilia cutting a corpse's stomach open and pulling out a dead fetus; a character slitting her wrist open. One sequence depicts a character shooting a bound woman off-screen, then burying the dismembered corpse. The game contains dialogue that references sexual material (e.g., “…[Y]ou're just a useless little slut”; “I'm pregnant with [his] baby. We had sex…”; “…the raping being committed by invading soldiers”). During the course of the game, a corpse is depicted with exposed breasts, and tarot cards include small drawings of nude women. The words “f**k” and “sh*t” are heard in the game.

Martha Is Dead - ESRB

Martha Is Dead - Mature 17+ - This a horror adventure game in which players assume the role of a woman (Guilia) trying to solve the mystery of her twin sister's murder.

www.esrb.org

Honestly, I feel like ESRB messed up with the rating. To me that's definitely an AO rating.

 

[Dr Bass]

Tbh I found some stuff in Until Dawn worse or more intimately close to me as a player like this (3mins onwards)

Hey, another game I can cross my "must play" list.

 

[MikeM]

That'll show 'em. Keep fighting the good fight, and let them know you will not put up with them taking away your right to mutilate people.

 

[Maogp]

To whom "I agree with Sony this time" gtfo and go play with crayons please. There are adults who want to cut a fucking face off and use it as a mask.


It's like Samsung is blocking the Cannibal Holocaust blu ray for use in their br player or LG mp3 player that allows you to play that Marylin Manson album but not the track number 3 because "is disgusting"

Wtf?

 

[tommib]

This is gross. What the hell…

And I mean the censorship. Couldn’t care less about what’s put in a videogame.

 

[Rurhanograthul02]

Oh No, An Actual Really Disturbing Horror Game!! Lets Censor The Compelling Bits Of Horror And Release Trash Horror Films With Scenes Far Worse Than This!!

Also, One Variant Of This Story (Lady In The Lake) Rectifies This By Allowing You To Save Your Sister After Wearing Her Face And Navigating With Her Vision To Save Her Like It Never Happened!!

Seriously Though, The Horror Gaming Genre While Their Are Still Some Gems Out There Isn't Nearly As Revered As It Used To Be When The Market Was Basically Flooded With Horror Shooters!! And Much Of This Censorship Is Likely Why!! You Can't Take Gaming Seriously As A Meaningful Story Telling Medium If You Continue Censoring It, Might As Well Do The Same With Books And Films Sony!!

 

[Topher]

No, Sony is making a judgement for it's product offering and perhaps its brand. You (the proverbial you) have chosen to be a member/consumer of their ecosystem and disagree with them not providing that particular product. Thankfully, there are other platforms that are offering what you desire, as the tweet indicates.

Right.....and that's what I'm doing. Disagreeing.