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Last of Us Part II Deadnaming Prompts Outcry From LGBTQ+ Community and Allies

DryPancakes

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Lev's story is fucking stupid anyway. Selfish little cunt got her entire family killed because of her fee fee's in the post-apocalypse. There's more important things at hand, you little shit.

yeah, where are you going to find hormones now?
 
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This is why I like games like Pacman. You're yellow, you eat ghosts and pellets and you don't have to worry about this real world ideological shit. Gaming was always about escapism and now it's so intertwined with the real world it has become as boring as the real world.
 
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Ten_Fold

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This game is made for trans and LGBTQ and y’all not happy? What’s wrong with yall? Seems nothing will make that group happy.
 

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Late to the thread, but the subject of the dead name was brought up already and addressed by Neil and his super inclusive team.
Someone somewhere is going to be offended by anything someone does, so despite how many websites want to generate clicks, these websites should just be given a link to the addressing content and be done with it.
 
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This is why I like games like Pacman. You're yellow, you eat ghosts and pellets and you don't have to worry about this real world ideological shit. Gaming was always about escapism and now it's so intertwined with the real world it has become as boring as the real world.
Just need to avoid all those games that are trying to be a dramatic hollywood movie
 
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SaucyJack

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So just to tag the event in spoilers

'Bev' wanted to be Lev,
So she shaved her head.
She was then ostracised from the cult for doing this as they are *phobe
They come across her again and still refer to her as 'Bev'

I don't see the problem? Isn't that narrative consistency? Wouldn't it be more jarring if they suddenly just did a stiff bow and acknowledged her? Wtf is wrong with these people.

A couple of things.
- ideological possession.
- a lack of original thought.

Fundamentally the problem with wokeness is that it lacks real compassion and empathy and substitutes instead a feeling of moral superiority.
 
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I mean, it’s never enough. That’s the problem with this crowd. More, more, more. Me, me, me. Utterly selfish, delusional and self-absorbed twats. Ashamed that these are actual human beings and that this is how they’re spending their lives: getting angry about everything, even when it gives a nod to their lifestyles and choices.

Just so we’re clear, too, a lot of LGB—no T, especially TRAs, since they’re sex deniers and gay/ bi/ lesbian people are defined by same sex attraction; no Q, since that’s just special pixie shit—don’t buy any of this ideology or suffer this special snowflakism. It’s a shame that the current landscape is so tribal, though, as you’re lumped into categories regardless of personal choice.

What’s most frightening is these people are not only crazy, but influential. The cries that they’re demonized and downtrodden are proving more empty every day.
 

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I mean, it’s never enough. That’s the problem with this crowd. More, more, more. Me, me, me. Utterly selfish, delusional and self-absorbed twats. Ashamed that these are actual human beings and that this is how they’re spending their lives: getting angry about everything, even when it gives a nod to their lifestyles and choices.

Just so we’re clear, too, a lot of LGB—no T, especially TRAs, since they’re sex deniers and gay/ bi/ lesbian people are defined by same sex attraction; no Q, since that’s just special pixie shit—don’t buy any of this ideology or suffer this special snowflakism. It’s a shame that the current landscape is so tribal, though, as you’re lumped into categories regardless of personal choice.

What’s most frightening is these people are not only crazy, but influential. The cries that they’re demonized and downtrodden are proving more empty every day.
The aim of these perpetually
“victimized” groups is not equality but special treatment.
 
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SkylineRKR

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What the fuck just today I learnt 2 new phrases: Deadnaming and Pansexual.

I wonder if those shitheads realize they are just creating even bigger rifts with their idiotic behaviour. On top of that, they're proppeling society back a good 100 years.

All the while they're adding more labels on people. Way to go.
 
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yurqqa

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I read the article and it’s a twit and a blog post. I don’t know if there’s a discussion on Resetera, but I guess this topic is already longer.

Is it really worth it to discuss ?
 
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yurqqa

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if its not worth discussing why report it?

of all the things you couldve written about, all the injustices in the world, you chose to focus on this. and now you are saying its not even worth discussion?

Sorry. I haven’t wrote it.
i meant: “I read the article”.

I think it was spellchecker misbehaving.
 
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As a gay male, the community needs to get the fuck over it. I'm sorry, but most of the things the community gets angry over is childish. I am embarrassed half the time to even be apart of it.

Its one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type things. If you didn't touch the character being trans, it would have been called out, if there was no gay characters it would have been called out. All in all, grow the hell up.
 
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Oh NICE.

Thanks to that article I'm now pretty sure that the asshole "Claven" (verified user) is this https://twitter.com/JusticeKazzy_

Fuck this asshole and wow:

“It doesn't matter how "dark"/"grim" a setting is, that's unnecessary. Developers need to understand what kind of player will feel good about that kind of violence directed at trans people.”

What a profoundly dumb thing to say.
 

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Honestly, having finished the game I feel like the LBGTQ+ stuff feels more like an affectation than an "agenda". Its like Tarantino's foot fetish, its just there because the director likes that imagery (Or the social credit from including it).
 
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Lev's story is fucking stupid anyway. Selfish little cunt got her entire family killed because of her fee fee's in the post-apocalypse. There's more important things at hand, you little shit.
She didnt get her family killed. What are you talking about. Im suppose to be a cult cause my family wants to be in one?
 

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Lol, is this a joke.

They had the game completely tailored to their entire cause and they still have the audacity to whine about yet another made up term.
 
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the people deadnaming her are literally trying to fucking kill her for shaving her head to be more like a boy. these arent nice people who are going to worry about getting gender pronouns right.

its like getting upset over tarantino using the n-word in Django. How dare these slave owners use the n-word... dont they know thats racist?

"Video games are interactive and produce serial killers and rapists, therefore are more dangerous than movies."
Hope VR becomes popular so they jump into it and leave non-VR games alone.
 
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Whatever happened to these are just video games. Anything touched in this game has been in movies and other media. Who gives a fuck about any of this stuff. It’s a fucken video game. Don’t like it stop playing it.
 

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Some of the bitchiest, whiniest, women I ever met IRL were gay men.

I know its not all. Ive met some very masculine looking and sounding gay men. A couple NFL players were gay and no one knew.
 

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I am so sick of outrage culture from both the left and the right. If this game pisses off both of them maybe it is doing something right.
 

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Where did Naughty Dog touch you?
I laughed, but careful now! I got a warning (and had the post deleted) for making the exact same joke a few days back!
 
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HighResTomato

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Soon regular women are who are ignoring them right now are going to have had enough. That’s when I’ll sit back and call them bigots
 

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Honestly, having finished the game I feel like the LBGTQ+ stuff feels more like an affectation than an "agenda". Its like Tarantino's foot fetish, its just there because the director likes that imagery (Or the social credit from including it).

It's the same deal with countless shows on Netflix, Amazon, etc. Take popular show or franchise X, veer the plot sideways and intro new characters to tell stories about whatever minority group or social injustice issue of the day.
 
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All the people that look for and make up agendas in everything aren't much better. Merely having (any number of scenarios that differ from the status quo) is enough to summon internet mobs.
 

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Oh NICE.

Thanks to that article I'm now pretty sure that the asshole "Claven" (verified user) is this https://twitter.com/JusticeKazzy_

Fuck this asshole and wow:

“It doesn't matter how "dark"/"grim" a setting is, that's unnecessary. Developers need to understand what kind of player will feel good about that kind of violence directed at trans people.”

What a profoundly dumb thing to say.
Hmmm that twitter account didn't have its tweets protected when I made this thread...
 
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So a fictional trans character's birth-name (and thus gender) was exposed and people are whining? Man, why even create a thread about it. Sometimes I wish the internet was governed by an AI that just censors this kinda bullshit.
 
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People often say that '' gamers are toxic '' as if the gaming community is somehow especially bad. But the truth is just that the gaming community is a reflection of society at large ( games are also interactive and more online so you just hear more from people who play games and it's the biggest entertainment media ).
Sorry to break it to some people, but people in general think that trans people are weird and are transphobic, the fact that trans characters are even in video games at all is honestly very special for gaming. Same with openly gay relationships on a larger scale and going way back.
In movies it's normally only hinted on if even that.
And then add to this too third world countries etc that also play games.

Reflecting that in a game like this, I don't see the problem?
It makes sense and comes with the territory.
Twitter isn't an accurate representation of society at large, and people in general are very transphobic and still a very significant portion are homophobic.
The '' gaming community '' simply reflects that too.
 

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It's the same deal with countless shows on Netflix, Amazon, etc. Take popular show or franchise X, veer the plot sideways and intro new characters to tell stories about whatever minority group or social injustice issue of the day.

The issue is that given how both Dina and Lev are underwritten as characters, and act solely as stock sidekicks the LGBTQ+ aspect doesn't really impact anything. They are basically plot devices, Lev especially is more a McGuffin than an actual character. Dina too. I mean she's just the dutifully supportive girlfriend stock trope.
 

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How can people be so fragile that their own fucking birth name triggers them?

Fuckin' seriously. So why does the trans label even exist if the very notion acknowledges you're not the gender you identify as?

What a carnival of stupid.
 
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I knew all those review outlets who gave this game a ten were total pieces of crap. Renounce those scores NOW!!! lol
 

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It's the same deal with countless shows on Netflix, Amazon, etc. Take popular show or franchise X, veer the plot sideways and intro new characters to tell stories about whatever minority group or social injustice issue of the day.
This is why I rarely use these services anymore. The pandering is insufferable.
 

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How can people be so fragile that their own fucking birth name triggers them?

Fuckin' seriously. So why does the trans label even exist if the very notion acknowledges you're not the gender you identify as?

What a carnival of stupid.

It's gotten so crazy. These people who supposedly support trans folk so much have turned them into this caricature of a person - so completely fragile that the slightest thing that might bother them becomes a hate crime and the pitchforks come out. Ultraleftists pushing these narratives are doing way more harm than helping these people in the long run.