Dr. Kitty Muffins
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It was over the moment Phil decided he didn't want to keep games exclusive to the Series X and wanted everything on PC. The Xbox should never have been looked at as only a Game Pass box.
I doubt there will be a remaster of any PS4 game being as they're completely backwards compatible with the PS5. The only thing Sony said they need to do is check that the PS5's speed doesn't break the game engine.Well PS5 might very well launch with a remaster of one of those. That would be another killer app next to Spiderman and Ratchet (assuming those make it).
No sir, I'm absolutely exhausted with dealing with their perpetual incompetence and failure to deliver.
A more powerful Xbox, a vast back catalogue of games and games that are coming out
I think i'm okay with that.
Really? Or maybe the reason the demo was in rough shape was COVID related. I don’t understand how we are assuming business as usual in the middle of a pandemic. Halo Infinite is merely the tip of the iceberg of COVID delays. This is going to affect every developer, every console and every gamer. It’s just that we weren’t going to start seeing these delays until now. We really need to remind ourselves that this is a unique time we are in. Also watch with Sony.... Spider-Man Miles May ship on time because of the foundation that they had already created with Spider-Man (and the reason that the PS5 footage looked nearly identical to the PS4 assets]. After that, there will be a huge lag in games.I don't buy the covid excuse actually.
They probably should have said it before they revealed the gameplay.
I'd imagine the Covid excuse is what 343 are telling MS as an excuse.
Wow, dude your such a troll.
Spiderman is stand-alone similar in size to something like Lost Legacy. Which started out as DLC but became stand-alone because of it's size. Miles morales will be a 10-15 hour game with side missions. Can we stop this narrative?
Like literally Even Insomniac came out to clarify what the scope of that game is.
Imagine being this much of a prick.Imagine being this much of a cuck
Nah. Next step is a #REACTION YouTube video!Neogaf:
Anyone call dibs on the reaction thread to the reaction thread to the reaction thread yet?
- Thread created announcing the delay
- New reaction thread created to thank Microsoft instead of using existing thread
- Another new thread is created to react to the other reaction thread thanking Microsoft instead of using the existing thread
Eh, i'm having a hard time remembering many amazing launch lineups. I usually just wait to buy the console till theres games I want to play. When you really look back, most launch window console libraries arent all that.
PS2 I waited till MGS2 - 1 year after launch.
360 I waited till Halo3 - 2 years after launch.
PS3 I waited till MGS4 - 2 years after launch.
XB1 I waited till Master Chief Collection - 1 year after launch.
PS4 waited for Bloodborne - 2 years after launch.
Both the XSX and PS5 have VERY weak launch lineups by my estimate.
Im waiting on both.
the 1st game could be beaten in 16hrs, if you think this asset reuse of a game will be 15hr you are fucking nuts.
its going to be 1 act in length padded with hours of swing after the drone, clear the gang and all the other filler stuff that was in the 1st game.
A more powerful Xbox, a vast back catalogue of games and games that are coming out
I think i'm okay with that.
My play time def, was not 15 hours. So...shrugs
You seem triggered.
Leave SEGA out of it and NEC screwed up far more than SEGA ever did. Games get pushed back and delayed even ones meant to launch alongside the system.
Man if they couldn’t get halo right, nor show any games playing on the new system or even showed off what these “enhancements” would look like outside of Minecraft, I’d wait til they showed shit closer to launch!Which is really why i getting a Xbox SX first and then a PS5. With the Xbox, all of my current games will still play, with several getting enhancements to take advantage of the new hardware. Then in a year or so, once Sony gets the ball rolling with some games, I will get a PS5. Bonus: any games that did come out for PS5 that I wanted to try will more than likely cost less by time I get it.
I could pass on the XSX at launch, but I am also a gadget guy, and I love new gadgets. Also, I will then move my One X downstairs and have two places to play Xbox games in 4k. Works for me.
You need to be grilling them to no end, these constant mistakes and the never ending buffoonery needs to sink in as being totally unacceptable. Don't think they're reading this stuff right now? You bet your ass they are, and I have no doubt a lot of people are getting reemed as what's being said on these forum is being rattled off in Zoom meetings.
Don't praise them for delaying a game, because they should have had the foresight as a multi-billion dollar division of a near multi-trillion dollar business to have a contingency plan in place to account for the potential of Halo not making the launch window.. Their incompetence has further harmed the brand, they further put at risk game deals for you, content, sales which lead to more investment and so on and so forth. If you can't even be confident in a brand you have invested in then how is anyone else supposed to be? Do you think publishers and developers are really going to want to do deals with them now?
They're in tatters, this is worse mismanagement than what took place at Sega and killed them... Sega was still putting out awesome games even as they were nearly bankrupt and being driven into the grave, and you want me to thank these rich executives and studio heads who can't even get one game lined up for their next-gen console? Do you have any idea how asinine that is?
All of you know I'm all about them, it's no secret that I bleed green and I practically have a shrine for them. With that being said though enough is enough, we are the last vestige of hope for them. We are their consumers, we are the ones who have the capability to hold them accountable, and many of you think the answer is to be in denial and act like they're doing us a favor?
Come on, it's been years.... This was supposed to be when Phil was supposed to shine, when we were going to have our coming back moment, and it's all been dashed away because they couldn't be bothered to come prepared with literally years to do so... I think I'm more disappointed in a lot of you than them, the excuses are intolerable.
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I'm sad you didn't mention the Panasonic 3DOYeah, people underestimate how much of a fuck-up the PC-FX really was. At the same time, NEC had the foresight to not release it outside of Japan, the damage done to them there was already more than enough to alert them foreign launches weren't worth it. I wish the handful of good games on the platform got ported to Saturn & PS1 though (actually I think some did like Dragon Knight 4, but it got censored on those platforms).
I still think some of the SEGA comparisons are valid though; right now MS's messaging is reminding me of some of the Saturn's in the West leading up to its launch, and in reality, SEGA of America's mixed messaging for next-gen surrounding 32X and Saturn (because they genuinely did try pushing the 32X as a next-gen option on the lower end of the scale aimed at those on a budget...eerily similar to what MS is pitching Series S as today). Similarly, Saturn having a somewhat bad visual outing with rushed, buggy ports of Virtua Fighter and Daytona USA, and MS almost risking the same thing if they had launched Halo Infinite this November. They may've avoided that parallel, but they still had a somewhat lukewarm reception to their next-gen system's visual prowess with that HI demo, similar to the lukewarm perception Saturn had with those early VF and Daytona ports getting compared against Ridge Racer and Tekken (and Battle Arena Toshinden) on PS1.
Ironically their launches are still similar too because both Saturn did and Series X will have at least a couple of solid sleeper hit exclusives at launch. Saturn had Panzer Dragoon and Clockwork Knight, Series X will have Scorn and The Medium (yes I know The Medium is coming to PS5 in the near future but still). And I'd even say currently, the relative level of interest for Series X (and S) heading into next gen compared to PS5 (among gamers at large, not simply just Xbox hardcore/core fans) is similar to the Saturn's level of interest in the West leading up to its launch in comparison to the PS1. I think there's too many parallels here to just "leave SEGA out of it", and I say this as a massive fan of their hardware designs and a lot of their games from MegaDrive and onward, especially some of their arcade hits (SEGA was such a powerhouse in arcades during the '90s, I miss that kind of gaming culture and what it helped facilitate).
And I also say all of this being a fan of Xbox (not exclusively; I'm a PlayStation and Nintendo fan, too. I like all systems, except maybe super-odd bombs like the Tandy or Philips CD-i...although Burn:Cycle looks neat ) fan. But yeah, there parallels are there between Series X/Series S and Saturn/32X IMHO. There are obvious differences and MS has the resources to significantly leverage a much better pipeline today than SEGA had or could leverage in the mid-1990s', but there's still enough similar to make the comparisons valid.
You need to be grilling them to no end, these constant mistakes and the never ending buffoonery needs to sink in as being totally unacceptable. Don't think they're reading this stuff right now? You bet your ass they are, and I have no doubt a lot of people are getting reemed as what's being said on these forum is being rattled off in Zoom meetings.
Don't praise them for delaying a game, because they should have had the foresight as a multi-billion dollar division of a near multi-trillion dollar business to have a contingency plan in place to account for the potential of Halo not making the launch window.. Their incompetence has further harmed the brand, they further put at risk game deals for you, content, sales which lead to more investment and so on and so forth. If you can't even be confident in a brand you have invested in then how is anyone else supposed to be? Do you think publishers and developers are really going to want to do deals with them now?
They're in tatters, this is worse mismanagement than what took place at Sega and killed them... Sega was still putting out awesome games even as they were nearly bankrupt and being driven into the grave, and you want me to thank these rich executives and studio heads who can't even get one game lined up for their next-gen console? Do you have any idea how asinine that is?
All of you know I'm all about them, it's no secret that I bleed green and I practically have a shrine for them. With that being said though enough is enough, we are the last vestige of hope for them. We are their consumers, we are the ones who have the capability to hold them accountable, and many of you think the answer is to be in denial and act like they're doing us a favor?
Come on, it's been years.... This was supposed to be when Phil was supposed to shine, when we were going to have our coming back moment, and it's all been dashed away because they couldn't be bothered to come prepared with literally years to do so... I think I'm more disappointed in a lot of you than them, the excuses are intolerable.
Who wants MS to be another Sony? Not me. I kinda hate things like tlou2, GoW, H:Zero Dawn with their huge budgets, 6 year development times, dumb B-tier Netflix scripts, and generic AAA single player gameplay. Get studios who make point and click, card battlers, TellTale style games, Animal Crossing, etc. and dont take six years per game because of graphics, mocap, and all that other detritus that make modern videogaming mostly Entertainment Experiences and not so much game experiences.
Hammering them for what? delaying a game that needed it?
Did you complain when the last of us 2 got delayed? Or cyberpunk?
Ah its true, were talking about MS. My bad, i forgot.
Imagine being this much of a prick.
What exactly do you want? It's got games coming out when it releases, or are you that fucking stupid?
You need to be grilling them to no end, these constant mistakes and the never ending buffoonery needs to sink in as being totally unacceptable. Don't think they're reading this stuff right now? You bet your ass they are, and I have no doubt a lot of people are getting reemed as what's being said on these forum is being rattled off in Zoom meetings.
Don't praise them for delaying a game, because they should have had the foresight as a multi-billion dollar division of a near multi-trillion dollar business to have a contingency plan in place to account for the potential of Halo not making the launch window.. Their incompetence has further harmed the brand, they further put at risk game deals for you, content, sales which lead to more investment and so on and so forth. If you can't even be confident in a brand you have invested in then how is anyone else supposed to be? Do you think publishers and developers are really going to want to do deals with them now?
They're in tatters, this is worse mismanagement than what took place at Sega and killed them... Sega was still putting out awesome games even as they were nearly bankrupt and being driven into the grave, and you want me to thank these rich executives and studio heads who can't even get one game lined up for their next-gen console? Do you have any idea how asinine that is?
All of you know I'm all about them, it's no secret that I bleed green and I practically have a shrine for them. With that being said though enough is enough, we are the last vestige of hope for them. We are their consumers, we are the ones who have the capability to hold them accountable, and many of you think the answer is to be in denial and act like they're doing us a favor?
Come on, it's been years.... This was supposed to be when Phil was supposed to shine, when we were going to have our coming back moment, and it's all been dashed away because they couldn't be bothered to come prepared with literally years to do so... I think I'm more disappointed in a lot of you than them, the excuses are intolerable.
There is something absurd about spending a lot of money on new hardware, purely to play old games.How is backwards compatible a major selling point for a new console I’ll never understand. Because let’s face it that’s ali the series X has for the first year.
This vibes with me hardcore. I've never really been a fanboy of, well, anything. But I've definitely favored consoles more than others depending on the generation. I LOVED the 360, and while I enjoyed the PS3 exclusives, the OS was just awful compared to the 360's IMO. But that radically changed overtime. Especially since I felt PS4's is better than XB1's.Xbox needs to EARN their old fans back.
A lot of us are like DynamiteCop! (Just not so dramatic). We are ex-Xbox fans. We just had our final straw long before now.
Moving on..Lmfao. It has a bunch of cross-gen games. To say "backwards compatibility" is a selling point is a reason NOT to buy XSX.
"I'm gonna spend $500 to play old games!"
How dumb is this?
I hope people understand now that this bias against Xbox that certain people claim didn't happen over night.
There was a time where Xbox 360 was my console of choice. I was into Xbox more than PlayStation for several years during the early 360 years.
They earned that. They just had better (at the time) exclusive games, a better OS, better price, etc.
But as soon as Sony started really hitting it with the better PS3 first-party games, MS's own output completely dried up. There were fewer and fewer reasons to play my Xbox and Sony only increased their quality.
I still bought an Xbox One at launch because of those early 360 years. I knew the games had to come eventually. They just didn't. And MS didn't seem to care.
There's no blind loyalty like I would have for my local sports team. I'm genuinely a much bigger PlayStation and Nintendo fan because they produce. Xbox has been letting me down for a decade straight.
I definitely do not get the appeal of Phil Spencer. He misleads people at best and flat out lies at worst.
Xbox needs to EARN their old fans back.
A lot of us are like DynamiteCop! (Just not so dramatic). We are ex-Xbox fans. We just had our final straw long before now.
Stalker 2, is old?It seems like people are okay buying a new Xbox to play that extensive library of old games...
If you actually care about Xbox you need to be hammering them hard right now
I'm sad you didn't mention the Panasonic 3DO
The controller was weird though from my fading memory... It had like upturned prongs, didn't it?I definitely didn't forget about it! 3DO's an odd one because once they did the (massive) price cut they started selling pretty decently, especially in Japan IIRC. Nothing that threatened Saturn or PS1, but I guess well enough. Plus for a 3D system in 1993 it was pretty well-designed and did see the industry shifting towards 3D (although the way it actually did 3D was more like Saturn i.e distorted quadratic sprites. FWIW PS1 didn't feature Z-buffering which is also kinda critical for "true" 3D so I guess the N64 was the first "true" 3D system that gen in regards to something more analogous with the type of 3D pipeline that's become industry standard).
And also fwiw 3DO had some solid games; D, Hell: Cyberpunk Adventure (frickin' Dennis Hopper, the GOAT! xD), Gex, Warhammer, Need for Speed, Road Rash...I think if EA were as big in 1993 as they are today but had the game philosophy of early EA (when they actually released creative games), they could've made the 3DO work long-term. They'd of been more willing to eat costs on the unit for starters and maybe provide a means for other manufacturers to be financially reimbursted for producing their own 3DOs.
People have spoken out , I have many times over the years, even spent around three years giving feedback in the Preview Program regarding UI/Features/Store.
I can’t be bothered anymore , it’s not worth it, tired of the shame tactics from others in particular with jibes like “Sony fan” or “Fake fans” crap like that from the usual shame tactic routines you see everywhere else.
They know what they are doing being like that too , it’s pathetic. Life is too short for their petty/disingenuous shite.
Hammering them for what? delaying a game that needed it?
Did you complain when the last of us 2 got delayed? Or cyberpunk?
Ah its true, were talking about MS. My bad, i forgot.
This could be the biggest troll post iv seen in a long time? Id maybe agree with you if u werent such a huge sony fanboy. laughableYou need to be grilling them to no end, these constant mistakes and the never ending buffoonery needs to sink in as being totally unacceptable. Don't think they're reading this stuff right now? You bet your ass they are, and I have no doubt a lot of people are getting reemed as what's being said on these forum is being rattled off in Zoom meetings.
Don't praise them for delaying a game, because they should have had the foresight as a multi-billion dollar division of a near multi-trillion dollar business to have a contingency plan in place to account for the potential of Halo not making the launch window.. Their incompetence has further harmed the brand, they further put at risk game deals for you, content, sales which lead to more investment and so on and so forth. If you can't even be confident in a brand you have invested in then how is anyone else supposed to be? Do you think publishers and developers are really going to want to do deals with them now?
They're in tatters, this is worse mismanagement than what took place at Sega and killed them... Sega was still putting out awesome games even as they were nearly bankrupt and being driven into the grave, and you want me to thank these rich executives and studio heads who can't even get one game lined up for their next-gen console? Do you have any idea how asinine that is?
All of you know I'm all about them, it's no secret that I bleed green and I practically have a shrine for them. With that being said though enough is enough, we are the last vestige of hope for them. We are their consumers, we are the ones who have the capability to hold them accountable, and many of you think the answer is to be in denial and act like they're doing us a favor?
Come on, it's been years.... This was supposed to be when Phil was supposed to shine, when we were going to have our coming back moment, and it's all been dashed away because they couldn't be bothered to come prepared with literally years to do so... I think I'm more disappointed in a lot of you than them, the excuses are intolerable.
Me and you both.
I once got told my gamerscore was too low so therefore my feedback isn't valid
I don't think you even realise who it is you are replying to...
This could be the biggest troll post iv seen in a long time? Id maybe agree with you if u werent such a huge sony fanboy. laughable