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[FoxMcChief]

Maybe don’t fall for early screens or videos?

 

[ChiefDada]

They were using the PC version which obviously will look better so I don't think they changed anything.

No, those screenshots were captured from PS5. It’s from the very first PS5 showcase.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Mostly seems to be a thing at the start of a generation before devs know how much they will be able to squeeze out of the hardware.

That said, those pics show a big difference.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Bar was raised too high at the beginning with the bullshots.

Never believe the hype. Never pre order games six months in advance either

 

[RoboFu]

Well we haven’t seen it on pc yet? Right?

 

[LazyParrot]

They were using the PC version which obviously will look better so I don't think they changed anything.

Well we haven’t seen it on pc yet? Right?

Square Enix are refusing to provide review codes to anyone who wants to review the game on PC. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

No, those screenshots were captured from PS5. It’s from the very first PS5 showcase.

Yeah, captured from a video of it running on a PC from a PS5 lmao

 

[Beechos]

The real head scratcher is the pics with superior graphics was confirmed to be real gameplay captured on PS5. Wtf happened? Clearly ps5 can manage with the higher fidelity so why remove it?

Prob to achieve that they would have to do 1080p 30fps. These big companies cant market that, such a shame.

 

[Deerock71]

It was doomed for the bargain bin from the start.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Good case why you should never show gamers what you're working on because any change viewed as a downgrade, real or not, brings out the crazies.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

They continue to do this because the alternative is to showcase a game and have it NOT look like a stunner. And because everyone does it, you have to do it, too, or your honor will be rewarded with lack of hype.

Hell, look what happened to Halo Infinite when they showed an un-gussied-up version.

Pretty simple from a business (and liar) perspective.

This is why I'm a 6'8" millionaire on dating apps.

 

[Gaiff]

Well we haven’t seen it on pc yet? Right?

It won't look like the trailers. I also suspect it'll run much better on PS5 to the point where it'll take something like a 2080 Ti/3070 to match the PS5 settings and performance. Hopefully, I'm wrong but given the state in which FF XV launched in and the lack of PC coverage, I'm doubtful I am.

 

[Represent.]

Because idiots keep crying for 60fps trash. This is what you get. Enjoy it.

Also, low standards.

 

[Gaiff]

This is why I'm a 6'8" millionaire on dating apps.

6'8" is too tall and actually has the adverse effect. You're on the other side of the curve. 6'2-6'3" is the perfect height.

 

[shiru]

Good case why you should never show gamers what you're working on because any change viewed as a downgrade, real or not, brings out the crazies.

Bullshots/downgrades don't real, they're just artistic changes, man

 

[Kikorin]

The second one gave me Pokémon V/S vibes, but I liked Pokémon so there's hope.

 

[T4keD0wN]

People dont buy games based on quality like they would with normal products, their emotions buy them because they see fancy trailers and screenshots, which is why marketing budgets are bigger than development ones.

They can get away with it even without that "subject to change" text because gamers are stupid (proof: they pre-order non-existent products that are in infinite supply)
All they are buying is a game code to a game which they will ultimately receive, they have zero reason to complain if it doesnt meet any of their expectations.
You get what you paid for and when you pre-oder pay for something that doesnt even exist yet, a vague promise. Buy an existing product, the ones that are actually release if you want to prevent this.

Game companies are stupid for not being even scammier, they can easily get away with it.
HIRE ME PHIL, I WILL HELP YOU EXPLOIT GAMERZ. DEY STAWPID, ME SMART. APE OUT

 

[Gaiff]

Because idiots keep crying for 60fps trash. This is what you get. Enjoy it.

Also, low standards.

But even at 30fps it looks nowhere as good.

 

[peronmls]

It's called Bull-Shots. Been around forever. Everyone and the devs know. They don't care because not enough people complain about it and typically people see the first trailer and simple buy the game later.

 

[shiru]

Because idiots keep crying for 60fps trash. This is what you get. Enjoy it.

Also, low standards.

You are an idiot.

 

[ChiefDada]

Prob to achieve that they would have to do 1080p 30fps. These big companies cant market that, such a shame.

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They already "achieved" it. It was an announcement trailer with a decent amount of gameplay. And iirc, Digital Foundry confirmed it was running 4k30.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

6'8" is too tall and actually has the adverse effect. You're on the other side of the curve. 6'2-6'3" is the perfect height.

Ohhhhhhh so THAT'S why I never get laid

 

[GHG]

Downgrades don't real, they're just artistic changes, man

Man, watchdogs still hurts to this day. That game should amd could have been so good.

 

[Spukc]

Wake UP SHEEPLE !!!

/s

It looks ok?

 

[SJRB]

Those comparisons are fucking wild, wow.

 

[RoadHazard]

Holy shit, does it actually look like that?

 

[Umbasaborne]

Yep, honestly its bullshit, but people give them excuses like “ThEY hAd tO oPtomIze” yeah? They optimized after they got your pre order right?

 

[rofif]

It was doomed for the bargain bin from the start.

That’s what I thought when they first showed it but now I am opening a bit more to new experiences and I am excited to get it.I think it looks pretty great. Huge great looking vistas, castes as ruins.

Shame they had to downgrade but it still looks good

 

[Crayon]

More like how many times are you going to be fooled by it.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

maybe the blame is on the PS5. you know?. it was designed from the ground up for it after all.

. i'm joooooking.

the thing is; outside the very first teaser. this game really just didn't stuck the landing in the PR/Marketing department.

maybe they said:

You know what? we don't have a very good game here. let's cut our losses.

 

[Ceadeus]

It literally says ''subject to change'' though....


But yeah this gen sucks, it's just more of the same. I'm having more fun playing og xbox and PSP right now

 

[shiru]

More like how many times are you going to be fooled by it.

"It's your own fault you got lied to"

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Honestly I didn't think much of it when I played the demo

Definitely a bargain bin title I think

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

The real head scratcher is how people keep falling for this time-and-time again.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/state-of-play-new-forspoken-trailer.1632170/

 

[Crayon]

"It's your own fault you got lied to"

It's not your fault the first time. I'll throw you a bone. Let's say it's not even your fault the first hundred times.

 

[Represent.]

You are an idiot.

The game would objectively look better had it been targeting strictly 30fps and adding in bells and whistles. Dont bother quoting me again if you're going to deny that.

 

[VN1X]

why isn't this illegal?!!!!!!
how many times we gonna get fucked over like this before the sheep actually wake up?

hi

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BECAUSE THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE TO TRIGGUR THE GAMURSS!!!!1

 

[.Pennywise]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

but this is true: I hope after this flop SE destroys that clusterfuck of engine called Luminous....

 

[OuterLimits]

I'm very curious what sort of budget Square provided for this game.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

http://[URL]https://www.neogaf.com/threads/state-of-play-new-forspoken-trailer.1632170/

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because they are not using their eyes.

 

[Power Pro]

The answer is in your post: "development footage. subject to change"

Not saying it's right, but there's your answer as to how and why they get away with it.

 

[Gaiff]

The game would objectively look better had it been targeting strictly 30fps and adding in bells and whistles. Dont bother quoting me again if you're going to deny that.

How do you know this?

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

 

[Represent.]

How do you know this?

Because I've been gaming for 30+ years and its never not been the case. The whole point of targeting 30fps instead of 60 is to prioritize better fidelity over framerate. Christ, people.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Because idiots keep crying for 60fps trash. This is what you get. Enjoy it.

Also, low standards.

60FPS? pfff, that is a slideshow. 120FPS or dead.

"my brain literally can't even how slow everything is below 120, the lag. is like walking on mud. just unacceptable and unplayable".

 

[Gamerguy84]

Happens all the time. Although I have to ask where the shots came from. I've personally seen way better from my PS5 on several games.

If I'm interested though I don't let a few downgrades stop me from buying a game.

 

[Gaiff]

Because I've been gaming for 30+ years and its never not been the case. The whole point of targeting 30fps instead of 60 is to prioritize better fidelity over framerate. Christ, people.

Source: Trust me bro.

Besides, multiple frame rate targets have been a thing for like 5 years so the fact that you've been gaming for over 30 years means absolutely nothing.

 

[Represent.]

Source: Trust me bro.

Besides, multiple frame rate targets have been a thing for like 5 years so the fact that you've been gaming for over 30 years means absolutely nothing.

Lmao. I cant believe this is even an argument. Tell me the PS5 is your first console without telling me PS5 is your first console.

Are you trying to argue developers haven't been prioritizing 30fps over 60fps in order to have better visuals in their games over higher framerate?

 

[rkofan87]

if the frame rate is good i do not give a shit.