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How the FUCK do devlopers keep getting away with visual downgrades? latest example, Forspoken

JokerMM

Gay porn is where it's at.
why isn't this illegal?!!!!!!
how many times we gonna get fucked over like this before the sheep actually wake up?

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Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
The real head scratcher is the pics with superior graphics was confirmed to be real gameplay captured on PS5. Wtf happened? Clearly ps5 can manage with the higher fidelity so why remove it?
Frame rate, draw distance, effects, any number of things.
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
PC vs console like always, nothing to see here but people who expected a high end pc version.
 

NinjaBoiX

Member
I don’t get how people get so bent out of shape about this nowadays, given that it’s such a known thing that companies do.

Suspect it, have your suspicions inevitably vindicated, then shrug it off and judge the game on its own merits.

Companies lie all the time in advertising, savvy consumers are wise to it.

It’s not a big deal.

Edit: Obviously flat out lying about a finished product is a different matter, but pre-release images of video games are often bullshots, we all know this by now.

Just take them with a pinch of salt and move on.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
That's your common video game bullshot.

Amazing how footage for games can be from 2 years ago and look fantastic. But at launch, it somehow gets worse despite polishing, optimization etc... If anything, you'd think it should be better.

For those of you who know game development, what happens? Does the game studio tell a separate team to make an artificial build that looks so much better than the final version (knowing the final game will look worse as it will have other power hungry game mechanics in it), while the core team works on the real build?
 
Games are made on high-end PCs early on before being converted and altered to run on specific hardware.

Should also point out that basically every game you’ve ever played has been visually downgraded from it’s pre-alpha target footage, whether you were aware of it or not. It’s been happening since the N64 era when games started being made in 3D. It’s by no means a new thing.

You should go back and look at the target footage of first-gen OG Xbox games back from 2000. Everyone was saying the games would look like Pixar’s Toy Story, they would be so advanced. Even in the Series X/ PS5 era, we *still* aren’t even quite there yet.
 
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Fbh

Member
To be fair to Square they have showed a lot of the game since then and even let you see how ugly it is for yourself with a demo.

If you are buying a game exclusively based on multiple years old pre release footage from when it didn't even have a name you have no one but yourself to blame.
 

JaksGhost

Member
The real head scratcher is how people keep falling for this time-and-time again. They've been constantly showing footage over the years that looked nothing like the reveal, yet here we are. I mean HOURS of gameplay have been released.
 
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GHG

Gold Member
Because y'all keep griping about frames per second.

When games come out looking spectacular and they are difficult to run on low end-average hardware (which is what consoles are) then you hear cries of "unoptimised" from the rooftops.

Please understand, this is generation entitled.
 

Drizzlehell

Banned
Normal people don't "shit all over" video games. They have better priorities than hating on an entertainment product 🥶
Do you always have to have things spelled out to you?

I meant that it won't get a good response from regular people who are just looking for a good time playing a decent video game, and won't hurl praise at it just because it features a black female lead or whatever. Because it's pretty much guaranteed that those loons at Kotaku and other websites like that are going to prop it up just by that virtue alone, regardless of whether the game is good or not.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
The real head scratcher is how people keep falling for this time-and-time again. They've been constantly showing footage over the years that looked nothing like the reveal, yet here we are. I mean HOURS of gameplay have been released.
Even funnier is that gaming has had day one reviews for probably the past 15-20 years. And with YT and Twitch videos being important, you even got normal joes doing day one videos. So it's not just corporate shills.

All a gamer has to do is skim some articles or videos or the metacritic average score by noon that day and you probably got 40 sources of info to tell if the game is good, bad, is buggy, needs a patch etc....

Yet, people still preorder games. And digitally too which for some e-stores might be a no turning back purchase.

Somehow it's really hard just to learn about the game first and if it's still worth it, just buy it after dinner.
 

Chronicle

Member
The Good news is I wasn't hyped. This game is not on my radar. They need to start showing games 6 months out rather than two fucking years. I agree we want the truth! (I'm setting myself up for a come-back gif, right?)
 
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