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GOG News and Updates 2011
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BS2 is a couple of tiers below the first. It's still better than the vast glut of adventure games (which when you remove the rose tinted specs are almost always awful) but it will probably disappoint you.Kurtofan said:
The Longest Journey... well, the world design is fantastic but it gets a ton of undue praise amongst certain circles, GAF included. The puzzle design is obnoxiously poor, with some of the worst examples of illogical (as in, there's no reason for the character to do that) pixel hunting/item combining in the genre.
If think this is exasperated by the afore-mentioned world design - so much of the game is so authentic, immersive and downright convincing that it makes all the horrible adventure game idiosyncraticities stick out like a sore thumb.
I do recommend you play it but stock up on patience and bullshit tolerance first; you will need both in ample supplies. Behind the bits of the game getting in the way of you enjoying the game, there is something quite special to be found.
Joseph Merrick
Member
woah. holy shit. just saw the twinsen pic. :drool
haha. what the hell? so the less you spend overall the better deal you should get? makes a world of sense.Ledsen said:
all of them hold up really, but they are of varying quality. as they were when they came out. mostly just depends on if they are the kind of games you like or not. caesar3 and swat3 are amazing. I really like the dark reign games, but from what I can remember a lot of people don't.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
graywolf323
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is the site down for anyone else?
edit: nvm just loaded on the 5th try
edit: nvm just loaded on the 5th try
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Kicking off soon exclusively on GOG? What?
Joseph Merrick
Member
never played little big adventure?ClovingSteam said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
Do you have data to back up that your method is better?Ledsen said:
Joseph Merrick said:
I think the problem is the way they present it. It's really just "buy more, get better discount" in disguise, but they make it look like you're being punished for not buying everything. They shouldn't automatically select everything, and let you select what you want. That way it will look like you're being rewarded by selecting more.
Or maybe present the list, and below have an bundle option which looks like big savings.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Fair enough.Ledsen said:
How many others?
And I don't understand why "only" 20% off of six to ten dollars is such a big deal as compared to 60% off. Either way, you're paying less than ten bucks for a quality release, all ready for you to play without any whamdiggery, coming with art, soundtracks, etc. Many of which you can't get anywhere else, and even if you could, they wouldn't have the passion like GOG does. You are not getting ripped off by any means. You're simply not getting as good of a deal because you aren't buying in bulk.
Are you similarly infuriated when you have to pay more for a single can of Spaghettios than you do for a package of cans of Spaghettios divided by the number of cans in said package?
It is a mystery.
It's a matter of perception and wording.
It's the same thing when a store has a clearance sale, and they word it something like "everything up to 75% off." And in your mind, you're thinking of all the cool shit you could buy for 75% off, and when in reality, the only thing 75% off is a pair of 4 year old used socks and everything else is 10% off. Then you read the original ad and realize your mistake.
And get off your high horse. Yea, GOG's games are already super cheap for what they are. But frankly, to me, sales are for games that I necessarily weren't interested in the first place. I've bought most all the games I wanted already at full price. I maintain a small wishlist of games that I might buy if they went on sale, but that's about it.
But yea, the prices don't bother me, it's just that I though GOG got rid of that sale scheme (or at least it seemed like because it's been a while since they've done it), and yet here it's back.
It's the same thing when a store has a clearance sale, and they word it something like "everything up to 75% off." And in your mind, you're thinking of all the cool shit you could buy for 75% off, and when in reality, the only thing 75% off is a pair of 4 year old used socks and everything else is 10% off. Then you read the original ad and realize your mistake.
And get off your high horse. Yea, GOG's games are already super cheap for what they are. But frankly, to me, sales are for games that I necessarily weren't interested in the first place. I've bought most all the games I wanted already at full price. I maintain a small wishlist of games that I might buy if they went on sale, but that's about it.
But yea, the prices don't bother me, it's just that I though GOG got rid of that sale scheme (or at least it seemed like because it's been a while since they've done it), and yet here it's back.
nincompoop
Banned
What day does GoG usually add new games? I've always wanted to play Little Big Adventure.
Togglesworlh
Banned
I'm sorry, what? I'm on a "high horse" because I find the sales completely inoffensive?plc268 said:
Everything else you said was completely understandable, even if I think it's a tad bizarre to be upset while also admitting that it's a matter of perception... but that was a little unnecessary, don't you think?
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Deleted member 10571
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I don't think most of GOG's prices are "super-cheap", actually I think 5-10 bucks for really, really old games, coming with Dosbox are pretty expensive, compared to most of the deals on, let's say, Steam, or with what I can buy at most flea-markets as boxed versions.
Neither do I think that 'sale' system of "buy more, get stuff you don't want cheaper' is in any way smart or great or whatever. I just need to compare how much I buy at Steam sales (aka almost everything) and how much I buy at GOG sales (aka lol, fu GOG).
So, am I on a high horse, too? Don't care, it's comfy then.
Don't insult people who don't share your opinion, pal.
Neither do I think that 'sale' system of "buy more, get stuff you don't want cheaper' is in any way smart or great or whatever. I just need to compare how much I buy at Steam sales (aka almost everything) and how much I buy at GOG sales (aka lol, fu GOG).
So, am I on a high horse, too? Don't care, it's comfy then.
Don't insult people who don't share your opinion, pal.
Joseph Merrick
Member
get stuff you don't want cheaper? haha, why? look at the total amount of money you're spending next time. buy the games you want. it doesn't matter that you got 30% off or 60% off if you end up paying more to get a higher percentage off and including games you don't want.
and yeah obviously. don't fucking buy games if you don't think they are worth it. :-D
and yeah obviously. don't fucking buy games if you don't think they are worth it. :-D
usually today. in about 4-5 hrs or somethingnincompoop said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
Wait, I think I completely misinterpreted plc's post. I thought he was responding to my post, the one directly above his.Bufbaf said:
Well, now I'm confused. EH.
Joseph Merrick
Member
you've been completely excluded from the conversation from here on buddy. sorryTogglesworlh said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
Works for me!
RpgN
Junior Member
About the whole pricing method, I don't like the way GOG goes on about it either (lately). It's pretty awesome how it offers freebies once in a while though! Broken Sword being an awesome game (own the wii and PS1 version, got rid of the latter because of this).
I'm not a PC gamer and never have been mind you. GOG is my first account created to experience old games for cheap where otherewise I wouldn't take a look at them. Playing them on a simple laptop that could handle them.
I buy the game that looks appealing and am not looking for buying a whole set or tons of games just for the sake of it. The Fallout games brought me in (they were super cheap) and I was expecting deals in that vein, maybe not as cheap, but not a deal where you buy 8 games to get the full discount. Having those kind of discounts only delays my purchase of that one game, since I'm not dying to play it, having more than enough games and am patient to wait.
Obviously, some of you look differently at the store, what it offers and how value is perceived to you which is fair. This deal does more harm than good in my opinion, certainly for casual fans who don't look at those games in a nostalgic way.
I'm not a PC gamer and never have been mind you. GOG is my first account created to experience old games for cheap where otherewise I wouldn't take a look at them. Playing them on a simple laptop that could handle them.
I buy the game that looks appealing and am not looking for buying a whole set or tons of games just for the sake of it. The Fallout games brought me in (they were super cheap) and I was expecting deals in that vein, maybe not as cheap, but not a deal where you buy 8 games to get the full discount. Having those kind of discounts only delays my purchase of that one game, since I'm not dying to play it, having more than enough games and am patient to wait.
Obviously, some of you look differently at the store, what it offers and how value is perceived to you which is fair. This deal does more harm than good in my opinion, certainly for casual fans who don't look at those games in a nostalgic way.
Togglesworlh
Banned
They should do it the other way around.
The more games you buy, the less your purchase is discounted!
The more games you buy, the less your purchase is discounted!
RpgN said:
I'm not sure, but I think the pricing depends on the publisher more often than not? They don't always do their sales this way. (And Activision always has the worst sales. It sucks because they have a lot of the titles I want.) If you're not really itching to get the games, waiting for the winter sale would probably be good. I believe last year they had their entire catalogue for 50% off.
Argh fuck, Longest Journey doesn't work at all 
First the cutscenes don't work, now I can't even launch the game anymore, it says:"Access to this surface is being refused because the surface memory is gone. The DirectDrawSurface object representing this surface should have Restore called on it"
I read that I need to update drivers, but I have no idea what to do.
Help please?
Edit:my graphic card is Intel R HD I think.
First the cutscenes don't work, now I can't even launch the game anymore, it says:"Access to this surface is being refused because the surface memory is gone. The DirectDrawSurface object representing this surface should have Restore called on it"
I read that I need to update drivers, but I have no idea what to do.
Help please?
Edit:my graphic card is Intel R HD I think.
LBA is here!
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/little_big_adventure
Just the first, not that I've really got all that much objection to that. Seems like they've gone a bit further with the extra artwork and stuff, too (the news blurb suggests it's unreleased stuff? I wonder if the sketches they had to promote it actually came from that, then?)
Edit: Waittaminute! Included with the promo stuff: "Remake tech demo". Wuzzat?
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/little_big_adventure
Just the first, not that I've really got all that much objection to that. Seems like they've gone a bit further with the extra artwork and stuff, too (the news blurb suggests it's unreleased stuff? I wonder if the sketches they had to promote it actually came from that, then?)
Edit: Waittaminute! Included with the promo stuff: "Remake tech demo". Wuzzat?
Kurtofan said:Argh fuck, Longest Journey doesn't work at all
First the cutscenes don't work, now I can't even launch the game anymore, it says:"Access to this surface is being refused because the surface memory is gone. The DirectDrawSurface object representing this surface should have Restore called on it"
I read that I need to update drivers, but I have no idea what to do.
Help please?
Edit:my graphic card is Intel R HD I think.
Go to control panel > device manager, find your card, open up the window and click on 'update driver'. If there is an update for it it will start automatically. Unfortunately, as Longest Journey is an old Direct Draw game a lot of modern PCs won't be able to run it properly, no matter how much you mess around with compatibility settings. I have this issue with the older Fallouts and Curse of Monkey Island.
There are a few tricks on google, try searching for the error you received.
Minsc
Gold Member
Re: general Curse/Fallout/TLJ compatibility:
Also Curse runs under SCUMMVM. So no issues at all then, though I don't believe I ever needed to use it for Curse. Fallout has a bunch of alternate renderers for DX9 so one of those generally does the trick, and TLJ is definitely the toughest, but I've gotten it working on every PC I've tried it on.
Let me see if I have any notes on that one later, I might, but there's only a slim chance it will help anyway, will pm you if I come across anything.
You could also just play it on another PC easily enough most likely, or issue a request for a refund (which there's probably like a 50/50 shot of getting). There's an admin @ GOG (EnigmaticT or something) that's good at pushing things through from browsing comments on the forums there.
Also Curse runs under SCUMMVM. So no issues at all then, though I don't believe I ever needed to use it for Curse. Fallout has a bunch of alternate renderers for DX9 so one of those generally does the trick, and TLJ is definitely the toughest, but I've gotten it working on every PC I've tried it on.
Kurtofan said:Thanks.
Argh it says that it already has the best update
Fuck I wasted 10 bucks for nothing.
Let me see if I have any notes on that one later, I might, but there's only a slim chance it will help anyway, will pm you if I come across anything.
You could also just play it on another PC easily enough most likely, or issue a request for a refund (which there's probably like a 50/50 shot of getting). There's an admin @ GOG (EnigmaticT or something) that's good at pushing things through from browsing comments on the forums there.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I was just thinking about LBA today O_O
Everyone: this game is incredible. I replayed it a couple of years back, too, so that's not nostalgia talking. I must stress the actual gameplay (the 'action' of 'action adventure') isn't that fantastic, but the adventure elements are amazing. The world has so much character and feels quite alive at times.mclem said:
That said, the asking of $6 is probably a bit steep, especially considering that's probably how much the (even better) LBA2 will be going for as well. If you've never played it before, for that $6 you're getting a simply magical adventure. People replaying will probably want to hold off for a deal.
Togglesworlh said:
I was talking about the same general attitude I've seen several times: "But GOG's games are so cheap already, why would you even need a sale?"
Yes they're cheap, and if you want to buy them all at full price, go for it, but some people just don't understand the concept of a sale.
And no, Togglesworth, I wasn't neccessarily responding to you directly with that comment though.
scarybore
Member
mclem said:
When GOG was first announced, LBA was the game that I immediately thought should be on the service. Certainly took their time putting it up, but I'm so glad it's finally available.
My only problem with the release that I have noticed so far is that the CD Rom music tracks by Philippe Vachey have been compressed into very low bitrate ogg files. Easily fixed in my case since I still have the original CD, but the music and GOGs customers deserve better.
I take it this was taken down? It's not showing up in my extras.
Update: GOG are so fucking awesome, they just updated the game with the original audio so the game is now over 200MB larger. Rejoice!
Deathcraze said:I take it this was taken down? It's not showing up in my extras.
Oh, yes. It seems to have vanished. I swear it was there!
Edit: I was lamenting the lack of a soundtrack - love that main theme! - but I've just noticed in the comments that it's buried in with the main install in OGG format. Purchase confirmed.
Joseph Merrick
Member
omg what, did you get it downloaded?mclem said:
I only just woke up. and I only woke up for LBA. I could have stayed sleeping forever gog!
Any chance that you could make your own OGG files and post them for us? If it's similar to other games with the same issue, I bet you'd be able to just replace the original files. I'd be interested for sure.Deathcraze said:
The GOG forums are great for stuff like this:Kurtofan said:
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/the_longest_journey/fmv_on_windows_7_64_bit
Something can go wrong with DirectDraw in Windows 7 unless you're set to High Performance. I never had the problem myself so I can't suggest anything else.
scarybore
Member
mclem said:
Doh, wonder what was in it.
The updated installer no longer installs the ogg files as far as I can see, I assume the music is now wrapped in the LBA.gog file since it is 363MB, so if you are wanting the soundtrack then you won't be getting it in a usable fashion from gog at the moment.
The original ogg files were terrible anyway, if I were allowed I would gladly make my CD music available as FLAC but legally that's somewhere I wouldn't want to go and I don't want to get banned or anything.
It's no longer needed if all you want to do is play the game, the installer was updated to use the uncompressed music. The new installer is 426MB versus around 175MB when it was originally released.
Minsc
Gold Member
Kurtofan said:
Also, you can play it windowed w/ D3DWindower (that's what I was going to suggest later if you were still having trouble). Some people find the look of it fullscreen to be a bit too pixelated. Glad you got it working though! Don't be afraid to use a FAQ if need be, some puzzles are just awful
