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I wish people would stop doing this. Dp will never stand for double post but if you are telling is about your sex activities there is a thread for it or perhaps it was just a Freudian slip.
I wish people would stop doing this. Dp will never stand for double post but if you are telling is about your sex activities there is a thread for it or perhaps it was just a Freudian slip.
Nintendo invented the concept of a game existing on 2 platforms with different hardware power at once , which justifies one being terrible.
I mean look at this post.
Sony is clearly using space magic when horizon on ps4 runs great and looks just as good as the reveal when they could just stop working on the base version and promote the pro. Since you know, the game was announced as a ps4 game but released and marketed when pro is their latest machine.
No wonder nintendo is kicking their ass in the console market.
Plain wrong, PAL and NTSC OOT would be a better comparison and even then the differences probably wouldn't be as big as that
The spin and defense in this thread is amazing.
No wonder Nintendo is struggling as a hardware dev, they basically have nothing to live up to, no competition and fans give them a pass for everything
Youll find the same people whining about season pass or fps drops in other threads, praising nintendo,
now this shit is okay because nintendo is too ambitious.
hell 15-20fps games are okay because OOT was the same.
The hypocrisy is off the chain
I want to see the quotes.
Sony is clearly using space magic when horizon on ps4 runs great and looks just as good as the reveal when they could just stop working on the base version and promote the pro. Since you know, the game was announced as a ps4 game but released and marketed when pro is their latest machine.
No wonder nintendo is kicking their ass in the console market.
Help yourself, its not really a secret that nintendo hardcores brag about nintendo prioritizing performance and not selling 'cut content ' like the others.
The spin and defense in this thread is amazing.
No wonder Nintendo is struggling as a hardware dev, they basically have nothing to live up to, no competition and fans give them a pass for everything
Youll find the same people whining about season pass or fps drops in other threads, praising nintendo,
now this shit is okay because nintendo is too ambitious.
hell 15-20fps games are okay because OOT was the same.
The hypocrisy is off the chain
Help yourself, its not really a secret that nintendo hardcores brag about nintendo prioritizing performance and not selling 'cut content ' like the others.
Nintendo invented the concept of a game existing on 2 platforms with different hardware power at once , which justifies one being terrible.
I mean look at this post.
Sony is clearly using space magic when horizon on ps4 runs great and looks just as good as the reveal when they could just stop working on the base version and promote the pro. Since you know, the game was announced as a ps4 game but released and marketed when pro is their latest machine.
No wonder nintendo is kicking their ass in the console market.
Until the decided to not put any feature on the Gamepad and the game became some kind of Switch game that can run on the Wii U : P.No matter if the game is great. This is a topic about its technical performance for platform it was built for.
Are you seriously using Sony as a counter example when they cancelled TLG on PS3 to port it on PS4 ? If they were the ones to release Zelda, the Wii U version would have been cancelled ages so.
At least Nintendo is releasing what they announced.
Help yourself, its not really a secret that nintendo hardcores brag about nintendo prioritizing performance and not selling 'cut content ' like the others.
If they were the ones to release Zelda it would be a big budget project like uncharted horizon, both of which were released as extremely polished products.
If zelda was niche like tlg , then yeah they would just launch it on a console it would run on.
Are you seriously comparing Zelda's selling power to TLG?
Youd have a point if they cancelled uc4 on ps4 to move to pro but what youre saying is more akin to uc4 being a downgraded mess on ps3 but getting a better running version on ps4.
Nobody is arguing wii u should run the game just like switch.But if they announced zelda for switch they sure as hell owe it to us to deliver a polished product and not screw us over because their hardware failed and now they wanna cash in on the ip's popularity to sell their handheld
Wait what? Does the Switch version run better in handheld mode than docked?Switch docked = PAL OoT
Switch handheld = NTSC OoT
Wii U = Perfect Dark High Res Four Player Splitscreen
Wait what? Does the Switch version run better in handheld mode than docked?
Well, I don't have it, obviously, but I did tune into a number of streams showcasing the Wii U version. All I can say is that it's pretty obvious that it has some severe frame-rate problems. One area that was being shown basically ran at 20fps or lower the entire time.
The times I have played it on Wii U were similar in that regard but I had hoped it was simply unfinished. We'll see.
Development really isn't that simple. It's very likely that this is the version of Zelda you'd get on the Wii U, switch version or no switch version. They're pushing the hardware and sometimes that means a sacrifice to the performance.
I mean Sony's track record isn't perfect either. I played Bloodborne and that game chugs sometimes.
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No seriously, are we going to ignore the fact that people are watching Wii U streams of the final build and haven't noticed this game-breaking performance, or that something of this scandalous in nature- shitty performance of what's being touted a landmark, generation-defining game- isn't blowing up on other forums and social media outlets? Wouldn't even previews have mentioned it beyond saying "occasional dips " in "an effort to find something wrong?" Would this kind of bait-and-switch even be normal?
I preordered the Wii U version with my own money, so I rightfully have a vested interest in understanding what I will realistically receive come Friday. Instead it seems like most people aren't actually interested in getting to the bottom of this versus hanging a bunch of doom and gloom on this single preview? I mean, I know it's fun to shit on Nintendo and this game in particular, but I would think we'd have higher standards of evidence than this?
Edit: So we at least have one other negative impression from a person who watched the streams.
I thought Nintendo games meant rock solid framerates?! What happened here?
Heh. Would you honestly be surprised if some of the games originally announced as PS4 titles will run better on PS4 Pro and will be quite unpolished on PS4? (maybe just to cash in on the ip's popularity to sell their upgrade)Nobody is arguing wii u should run the game just like switch.But if they announced zelda for switch they sure as hell owe it to us to deliver a polished product and not screw us over because their hardware failed and now they wanna cash in on the ip's popularity to sell their handheld
Edit: the targeted assault has begun. Cool , ill see myself out. And no im not generalizing, but im not gonna name each and every single one who says those things. If youre oblivious to that fact more power to you.
No point in arguing.
*saved*
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No seriously, are we going to ignore the fact that people are watching Wii U streams of the final build and haven't noticed this game-breaking performance, or that something of this scandalous in nature- shitty performance of what's being touted a landmark, generation-defining game- isn't blowing up on other forums and social media outlets? Wouldn't even previews have mentioned it beyond saying "occasional dips " in "an effort to find something wrong?" Would this kind of bait-and-switch even be normal?
I preordered the Wii U version with my own money, so I rightfully have a vested interest in understanding what I will realistically receive come Friday. Instead it seems like most people aren't actually interested in getting to the bottom of this versus hanging a bunch of doom and gloom on this single preview? I mean, I know it's fun to shit on Nintendo and this game in particular, but I would think we'd have higher standards of evidence than this?
Wow this is very very disappointing to hear. It was designed first and foremost as a WiiU game so parity in performance was at least expected. Looks like Nintendo has learned the final lesson from their competitors - last gen doesn't fucking matter! If you're a loyal fan who won't shell out day one money for the next console, fuck you!
After a decade of whining from the market, Nintendo has answered the call to adopt the best practices of a big modern publisher.
Nice.
Posts a bunch of generalisations but the moment people dispute them it's an assault. No point is arguing? More like no point in even having a discussion apparently.
Heh. Would you honestly be surprised if some of the games originally announced as PS4 titles will run better on PS4 Pro and will be quite unpolished on PS4? (maybe just to cash in on the ip's popularity to sell their upgrade)
Haven't we already seen some examples where the performance differ quite a bit?
Wait, are you serious? Is the Switch already broken?Seriously, people are not reading the opinions of those playing actual final versions of the game, and are listening to the pirates having issues with their SD loaders instead
I thought Nintendo games meant rock solid framerates?! What happened here?
After a decade of whining from the market, Nintendo has answered the call to adopt the best practices of a big modern publisher.
If this is the cost of open world Zelda then it's worth it. I'll take expansive game design over perfect performance any day, and I'll do so with Nintendo, Rockstar, Ubisoft, anyone.
In 10 years time we won't remember a game's framerate, only how it made us feel while playing it.
After a decade of whining from the market, Nintendo has answered the call to adopt the best practices of a big modern publisher.
Which is funny, because I don't remember 3D zelda's being a bastion of performance.
They seem to be adopting the negatives and not any of the positives.
Such as what? Yearly releases? Micro transactions? Generally mediocre and forgettable games?They seem to be adopting the negatives and not any of the positives.
We also have a word from the digital foundry guy
Is web store confirmed? That would be dope.Region free, open world games, unified account, web store, multiple accounts per system, continued content development post release.
Is web store confirmed? That would be dope.
The game can't simultaneously be a mostly stable experience with dips here and there and a sub-optimal piece of shit.
I've played the game for a couple of hours on Wii U. It's fantastic, I love it, I'm glad I bought it, I'm going to buy it again for Switch. My only regret is somehow I fucking signed up for Amazon Prime in the whole process of trying to get it which cost me $100 for something I'll never use, lol.
But having played it - it has serious framerate issues. I rarely if ever notice frame rate issues, but here I notice them quite a lot. The opening area, or anywhere where there's a lot of grass - you're looking a massive sustained dips over the course of 3-5 seconds or more. Feels like it dips below 20 at these times, honestly. Very unresponsive, very stuttery.
Certain other areas tend to be okay and shrines are fine. It's not game breaking, it won't spoil your enjoyment. But it's as bad a framerate I've seen in a game for what feels like years and it requires some getting used to. Not as much, for me, as the IQ - which is truly horrendous. But I'm much more sensitive to IQ than I am to framerate.
Just to give a random example - FFXV in the car on the standard PS4 was bad, but Zelda feels much worse than that.
Also, let's see if there is a day one patch.
Double standards, where ever they are, are quite funny to witness.The spin and defense in this thread is amazing.
No wonder Nintendo is struggling as a hardware dev, they basically have nothing to live up to, no competition and fans give them a pass for everything
Youll find the same people whining about season pass or fps drops in other threads, praising nintendo,
now this shit is okay because nintendo is too ambitious.
hell 15-20fps games are okay because OOT was the same.
The hypocrisy is off the chain
Huh?
Both are the same, except for marginal better loading times on the digital version, at least I missing something...