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[SlimySnake]

Summary courtesy of Xdrive05 The greatest gaffer in this thread. So far.

• SM3DW: Better (and variable) resolution than Wii-U version.
• SM3DW: Some minor visual artifacting & shimmering (reconstruction probably, and a shadow glitch in one part)
• SM3DW: Movement speed increase is welcomed and speeds up play.
• SM3DW: Photo mode uses substantially higher settings (like resolution and shadow quality), but slows to a chunky framerate.
• SM3DW: Otherwise perfectly faithful port.
• Bowser's Fury: Experimental open world design is interesting. Fun new ideas and probably hints toward future of Mario platformers.
• Bowser's Fury: Music is fantastic.
• Bowser's Fury: Has some framerate hitching when streaming assets as you move through the open world.
• Bowser's Fury: Has a few spots of slowdown when things get crazy (seems to be pushing Switch to the limit).
• Bowser's Fury: Runs at 30fps only in handheld mode.
• Bowser's Fury: Also, runs at 720p dynamic res when docked, but never reaching 800p (iirc).

 

[Fake]

Photo mode perfomance or GTFO.

 

[Kholinar]

Maybe stop rushing to post the thread and actually watch the video you're posting so you can provide a summary.

 

[Xdrive05]

• SM3DW: Better (and variable) resolution than Wii-U version.
• SM3DW: Some minor visual artifacting & shimmering (reconstruction probably, and a shadow glitch in one part)
• SM3DW: Movement speed increase is welcomed and speeds up play.
• SM3DW: Photo mode uses substantially higher settings (like resolution and shadow quality), but slows to a chunky framerate.
• SM3DW: Otherwise perfectly faithful port.
• Bowser's Fury: Experimental open world design is interesting. Fun new ideas and probably hints toward future of Mario platformers.
• Bowser's Fury: Music is fantastic.
• Bowser's Fury: Has some framerate hitching when streaming assets as you move through the open world.
• Bowser's Fury: Has a few spots of slowdown when things get crazy (seems to be pushing Switch to the limit).
• Bowser's Fury: Runs at 30fps only in handheld mode.
• Bowser's Fury: Also, runs at 720p dynamic res when docked, but never reaching 800p (iirc).

 

[Codes 208]

• SM3DW: Better (and variable) resolution than Wii-U version.
• SM3DW: Some minor visual artifacting & shimmering (reconstruction probably, and a shadow glitch in one part)
• SM3DW: Movement speed increase is welcomed and speeds up play.
• SM3DW: Otherwise perfectly faithful port.
• Bowser's Fury: Experimental open world design is interesting. Fun new ideas and probably hints toward future of Mario platformers.
• Bowser's Fury: Music is fantastic.
• Bowser's Fury: Has some framerate hitching when streaming assets as you move through the open world.
• Bowser's Fury: Has a few spots of slowdown when things get crazy (seems to be pushing Switch to the limit).
• Bowser's Fury: Runs at 30fps only in handheld mode.

Also runs at a locked 60fps in docked and portable for SM3DW

 

[JimboJones]

Photo mode perfomance or GTFO.

Cheekily they actually did

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

I will be buying a copy on Friday. I look forward to playing this for the first time.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I will be buying a copy on Friday. I look forward to playing this for the first time.

Likewise, my first Mario game after I got my Switch (was busy playing Hades), looking forward to playing with my daughter.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Preordered, and locked and loaded on my Switch for Friyay!!!

 

[Xdrive05]

This looks like a great purchase with Bowser's Fury included. Nintendo gets a bad rap for re-selling old games at full price. But in this case we ought to celebrate (and ENCOURAGE THEM!) to do more intentional value adds like this.

 

[Fbh]

Seems decent enough. At least the added content looks nice unlike some of the other ports.

Does this game allow local coop from the Start or is it one of those annoying games that force you to play up to a certain section to unlock coop?

 

[Spukc]

Maybe stop rushing to post the thread and actually watch the video you're posting so you can provide a summary.

how can he be the first then dummy?

 

[SlimySnake]

This looks like a great purchase with Bowser's Fury included. Nintendo gets a bad rap for re-selling old games at full price. But in this case we ought to celebrate (and ENCOURAGE THEM!) to do more intentional value adds like this.

how long is Bowser's Fury?

 

[AJUMP23]

I played this on the WiiU and I bought it for the switch to enjoy with my kids.

 

[OverHeat]

DF are biased...cant trust them......joking
Great port will get for my kids day 1

 

[JimboJones]

DF are biased...cant trust them......joking
Great port will get for my kids day 1

Cashing that Nintendo paycheck, no mention of MS and Sony, gotta read the undertones

 

[fart town usa]

I will be buying a copy on Friday. I look forward to playing this for the first time.

It's a total blast on the WiiU, I'm sure you'll have lots of fun. Try to play it 2 player if you can, adds so much to it. 4 player is fun too but super chaotic. I'd get a feel for the game before immediately trying to play 4 player. That's just me though.

 

[fart town usa]

DF are biased...cant trust them......joking
Great port will get for my kids day 1

The WiiU version is easily one of the best Mario titles, by any standard. It like a perfect blend of Mario 3, Super Mario World, and Mario 64. Tons of fun, you and the kids will love it.

 

[fart town usa]

Seems decent enough. At least the added content looks nice unlike some of the other ports.

Does this game allow local coop from the Start or is it one of those annoying games that force you to play up to a certain section to unlock coop?

WiiU version is coop available from the start. I highly doubt they changed it for the Switch version. The game begins with all 4 characters jumping into a pipe after Bowser steals a fairy. Everyone is in on the adventure from the get go.

 

[Astral Dog]

how long is Bowser's Fury?

Even if its around your average 2d Mario lenght that still adds plenty of value to 3DWorld with how good it looks and evolution of the Odyssey(and 3D World) formula

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Hope it's better than Odyssey

 

[Zheph]

Easy win for Switch.
The usual Wii brigade is gonna come with the excuses now

 

[phil_t98]

I wasnt gonna get this, but with that extra game attached its now a must

 

[sunnysideup]

I have to say. Bowser fury sounds bad ass.

Why did they not make it the main game.

 

[fart town usa]

Hope it's better than Odyssey

If you're like me, you'll really enjoy it. I played it on the WiiU when it first released and then started it up again a few months back with my wife. We love it. She also picked up Odyssey and I actually wasn't too keen on it. Odyssey is clearly a good game but it just didn't do much for me. I much prefer 3D World. Glad that it's available for other people to enjoy.

 

[fart town usa]

Easy win for Switch.
The usual Wii brigade is gonna come with the excuses now

You leave the WiiU alone!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

That Switch Pro can't come soon enough, judging by Bowser's Fury performance.

I guess they opted for 30 fps in undocked mode because the alternative would be dropping the resolution to something like sub 500p.

 

[HotPocket69]

Ooh a DF analysis! Sperg alert!

But really, what are they doing about the stamps?

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

Mario at 30fps is a crime. Switch 2 now!

 

[HotPocket69]

 

[Banjo64]

Pretty disappointed that Bowser’s Fury is 60fps docked, 30fps undocked.

 

[Jaxx_377]

My 5 yeard old has been working his ass off to save money for this game. He woke my wife up at 6am this morning so he could clean his room before Kindergarten to make 5 more dollars. You should have seen his face after when she told him she didnt have cash on her and she would pay him after school. He was pissed!

 

[Mister Wolf]

This and Bravely this month. Monster Hunter next month. Nintendo is starting off 2021 with some heat.

 

[jimjonjimmy]

Ooh a DF analysis! Sperg alert!

But really, what are they doing about the stamps?

I think they are used with the photo mode now you can stamp them to the background when taking pics.

 

[Xdrive05]

My 5 yeard old has been working his ass off to save money for this game. He woke my wife up at 6am this morning so he could clean his room before Kindergarten to make 5 more dollars. You should have seen his face after when she told him she didnt have cash on her and she would pay him after school. He was pissed!

 

[Codes 208]

Hope it's better than Odyssey

It’s a different flavor. Like comparing Mario world to Mario 64.

overall it’s an amazing game that plays sorta-similar to classic Mario, but in 3D.

 

[Mozza]

Hope it's better than Odyssey

Why?, both games are very good.

 

[onnextflix5]

Who wants to play mario at 30fps lol, switch lite owners are srewed lol. Played a little browsers fury, very clean 720p, thought it was 1080p lol, very good single player mario dlc game,

 

[StateofMajora]

Wow, the base game looks worse on switch ; not surprising considering ports like DK, pikmin, w101 cappy toad etc.

Bowsers fury looks nice though, can't wait. I'd just play the og on wii u though.

 

[Dacvak]

Wow, the base game looks worse on switch ; not surprising considering ports like DK, pikmin, w101 cappy toad etc.

Wait, am I missing something? Aside from the “interlace” flicker that seems imperceptible in motion and that one weird shadow glitch, isn’t this getting a full bump to 1080p?

Also, I’m not in the know - what’s wrong with DK, Pikmin, W101, etc.?

 

[Fake]

Wow, the base game looks worse on switch ; not surprising considering ports like DK, pikmin, w101 cappy toad etc.

Bowsers fury looks nice though, can't wait. I'd just play the og on wii u though.

I guess is because was the time Wii U games was like Xbox 360/PS3 era when devs not normally use some sort of DRS or reconstruct techs, so they stick with native resolution and optimization.

Crysis PS360 use native resolution on the older consolers, but the recent remaster bring dynamic resolution. IMO is a good thing for Nintendo to learn using those techs.

 

[Sub_Level]

This is the only 3D Mario I've ever played. I 100%ed it and loved it. Champion's Road is a perfect level.

 

[StateofMajora]

Wait, am I missing something? Aside from the “interlace” flicker that seems imperceptible in motion and that one weird shadow glitch, isn’t this getting a full bump to 1080p?

Also, I’m not in the know - what’s wrong with DK, Pikmin, W101, etc.?

I could see the flicker the whole time (well not always but on certain shots, plus it's youtube video) I was watching, and honestly due to the nature of the kind of halos over the characters the resolution bump isn't as impactful as it should be. On some comparison shots I even thought Wii U looked sharper. Glitches + flicker does not equal better, it's worse. I mean it's better than nothing if you don't have a Wii U, but.

Donkey kong runs at higher resolution but the lighting effects are borked and having played both the Wii U and Switch versions, the latter has some weird over used blur in some levels.

Wonderful 101 runs slower than the Wii U version, and lacks its gamepad features. Either play the original Wii U version or the Ps4 version.

Pikmin runs at the same resolution, but i've noticed borked shadows here and there and non existent/less effective anti aliasing. Not to mention no wii mote pointer controls.

 

[RoadHazard]

My 5 yeard old has been working his ass off to save money for this game. He woke my wife up at 6am this morning so he could clean his room before Kindergarten to make 5 more dollars. You should have seen his face after when she told him she didnt have cash on her and she would pay him after school. He was pissed!

You pay your son for cleaning his own room? Man, kids these days have it easy, I never got paid for that.

 

[SlimySnake]

You pay your son for cleaning his own room? Man, kids these days have it easy, I never got paid for that.

my six year old doesnt get paid either. especially not five dollars.

but i just buy him games which is probably worse.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Nintendo is lazy thats what happened

 

[StateofMajora]

I guess is because was the time Wii U games was like Xbox 360/PS3 era when devs not normally use some sort of DRS or reconstruct techs, so they stick with native resolution and optimization.

Crysis PS360 use native resolution on the older consolers, but the recent remaster bring dynamic resolution. IMO is a good thing for Nintendo to learn using those techs.

Dynamic resolution is OK, this technique they're using isn't. Just should have kept it at native. The bandwidth between Wii U and switch is pretty comparable despite the latter having a significantly better gpu, so maybe this technique was a time saving measure. Oh well, i'm getting this at launch so i'll see how it looks on my tv.

But really I find it surprising just how many of these nintendo ports mess something up in translation... if it didn't come with a new game it would be laughable

 

[Fake]

my six year old doesnt get paid either. especially not five dollars.

but i just buy him games which is probably worse.

Its not that worse. Is pretty common in fact. You're just make him happy. I never get paid for doing all those stuff either.

 

[Fake]

Dynamic resolution is OK, this technique they're using isn't. Just should have kept it at native. The bandwidth between Wii U and switch is pretty comparable despite the latter having a significantly better gpu, so maybe this technique was a time saving measure. Oh well, i'm getting this at launch so i'll see how it looks on my tv.

But really I find it surprising just how many of these nintendo ports mess something up in translation... if it didn't come with a new game it would be laughable

Dynamic resolution, DRS and reconstruct are super fine, but you need to understand one thing. They don't make miracles. If the native resolution is lower sure the job need to be done will be greater, will require more resources.

I not saying this technique was used in good faction, but at least Nintendo is start to using. With time and more learn, they can master this and reduce the time making games.

I guess is because Nintendo is so fucking late to the party. Thats why Nintendo should seek Nvidia DLSS.

 

[StateofMajora]

Thats why Nintendo should seek Nvidia DLSS.

That I can agree with. Dlss 2.0 is almost there, just a bit of issue with particles and small small details. A 3rd version for the switch 2 would be perfect.