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Final Fantasy XVI gets ESRB Rating (it’s spicy)
- Thread starter remember_spinal
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SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
They were trying so hard to make a "mature" and edgy Final Fantasy that they got the rating they were aiming for.
But the end result is not Final Fantasy.
But the end result is not Final Fantasy.
remember_spinal
Banned
Don’t be a prude
Draugoth
Gold Member
All things considered, surprising considering Final Fantasy is usually chill in the adult department.
Cant wait to bang everyone with my character
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Clive will be the first Final Fantasy protagonist to fuck.
bender
What time is it?
I'm with you in the belief that there will be a Final Fantasy XVII.
remember_spinal
Banned
Fucking Fantasy XVI
Pejo
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Uh...
Nah they just hold hands and esper fetuses shoot out of their nostrils ..
Badlucktroll
Member
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Sexual moaning sounds in a brothel? So why wasn't X-2 rated M?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Im not reading the spoilers. But its seemed obvious to me since day 1 this is Final Fantasy Game of Thrones. It takes that many years for the influence to move into AAA games.
Raonak
Banned
Every single final fantasy has a different intrepretation as to what it means to be final fantasy.
that's like the whole point of the franchise.
Captain Toad
Banned
Hugare
Member
I was always curious about how is the rating process, so I googled it
It seems like they are provided with a completed questionnaire detailing if there's any sex, violence and etc. in it, and also a video showing cutscenes, missions and etc. of the most "extreme" content in it
But I wonder if there were any devs that lied about the game's content before? Or forgot to provide the most "extreme" scenes to ESRB?
I'm even more hyped now. Glad to know that they arent holding back on mature content.
It seems like they are provided with a completed questionnaire detailing if there's any sex, violence and etc. in it, and also a video showing cutscenes, missions and etc. of the most "extreme" content in it
But I wonder if there were any devs that lied about the game's content before? Or forgot to provide the most "extreme" scenes to ESRB?
I'm even more hyped now. Glad to know that they arent holding back on mature content.
CamHostage
Member
Sure, and it's interesting that they've pushed things this far.
However I'm a believer in long-running franchises (especially mainline ones like this one) holding some kind of a consistent range for the age group the series has been known for even as things change and evolve, and "M-rated" doesn't feel right to me for Final Fantasy. (Albeit what's described seems pretty light for M-rated territory, and I have a feeling they will appeal before release.) Stranger of Paradise went too far in that direction and that was one of many things that turned me off of that game, but it was a side-game so whatever. (Sort of like how Andor added "shit" lines and almost had the first "fuck" in Star Wars, but it's deep-canon rather than mainline; the series still doesn't and probably shouldn't have a Rated R-type product, even though on the flipside it has lots of Rated G content for little kids.) This is a numbered FF, and IMO those work best as games made for general audiences. I'm not at all opposed to an M-rated RPG (blowjobs and bloodshed in games could be a bulletpoint in a game by another name), but Final Fantasy feels like it should strive for a certain standard wherever they take the concept.
I guess we'll see if this is the new way of things whenever XVII shows up...
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remember_spinal
Banned
A lot of final fantasy games were mature, it was just disguised by pixel art or rudimentary polygons.
blackjon24
Member
Just finished crisis core reunion and one of the most iconic scenes in ff7 was completely ruined in the effort to get a "T" rating. Same thing with the lack of blood in the shinra building in ff7 remake.
With how long it has been since a great mainline final fantasy game you'd have to think that the majority of fans are adults by now
With how long it has been since a great mainline final fantasy game you'd have to think that the majority of fans are adults by now
remember_spinal
Banned
I hated the fact that they ruined the sephiroth jenova reunion scene. Sparkly purple blood
That was one of the scenes that made me respect FF7 as a tween.
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FloopCookiefix
Member
I don't doubt the game will be good and fun, and I'm totally still looking forward to this, but I don't personally see the excitement over it getting an M rating in particular. There are so many other games out there that push for edge, why does mainline FF need it?
It's not like I don't play M games- I just think it's weird to be like (what I think some people treat this news as): "Game is rated M, so it'll automatically be better than if it were T." Note that with that I'm also speaking mostly in the context of Final Fantasy as a whole/in general
As someone who plays the E-M rating spectrum, I'm curious to hear what are the reasons why people want this change
It's not like I don't play M games- I just think it's weird to be like (what I think some people treat this news as): "Game is rated M, so it'll automatically be better than if it were T." Note that with that I'm also speaking mostly in the context of Final Fantasy as a whole/in general
As someone who plays the E-M rating spectrum, I'm curious to hear what are the reasons why people want this change
CamHostage
Member
And that's fine, but in their day, no one of the FF games was not pushing age-rating barriers beyond the norms of the marketplace. FF II & III never had an ESRB rating, but they existed in a time when Mortal Kombat was out with an M rating. Final Fantasy VII had a T at a time when there were lots of games with Ms. FFX / X-2, FF XV, the online Final Fantasys, they still kept on one side of the line. They figured out how to have mature content without crossing that line.
(And BTW, they wormed a lot of FFs into kids' hands that way, tweaking those young minds to be interested in more adult or complex subject matter while they played the game their grandparents happily bought for their birthdays...)
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I’m glad it is mature if it’ll portray tasteful violence and mature dialogue where appropriate . It could lead to a better narrative without constraints to show horn a T rating to get it into more hands.
Then again FFXIV story is hyped to the moon and I found it nothing but drivel so…. Here’s hoping Yoshi P can knock it out of the park .
Easily one of my most wanted titles.
Then again FFXIV story is hyped to the moon and I found it nothing but drivel so…. Here’s hoping Yoshi P can knock it out of the park .
Easily one of my most wanted titles.
remember_spinal
Banned
They also got away with more stuff back then like see above, final fantasy 7 had a lot of blood and swearing in it and it still had a T Rating.
Doom85
Member
The creators of VII confirmed the rather obvious implication that Cloud and Tifa slept together in the final stretch of the game is in fact what happened.
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
Final Fantasy used to have an intrinsic purity and vision.
Like a Hayao Miyazaki movie.
Modern Final Fantasy it's as if Hayao Miyazaki decided to make hentai and appeal to thirsty otakus that will gobble up any trash you throw at them.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Oh yeah.
Can’t be as shocking as hearing about Shadowlord in NieR for the first time.
Can’t be as shocking as hearing about Shadowlord in NieR for the first time.
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CamHostage
Member
Yeah, do have me there, they did approve something in one time and then had to censor themselves the second time around. Ratings boards are not known for being consistent, but that is surprising to me that this content really was a sticking point in achieving a T rating. What was "realistic" in the PSX era changes when you see a near-photorealistic version of it over pixels and triangular stick-figures.
That said, I would say there are more artful ways to re-create that type of sequence and achieve a T without resorting to "Mortal Kombat Sweat-Blood" color change. It feels more like they didn't think about what they were doing this time around than that they authentically created this sequence for its "mature" and edgy content.
The original was gruesome, but it wasn't M-rated.
I LOVED FFVIIR but scenes like this becomes weird without any blood.
That strikes me as flawed direction again (or lack of communication with ratings boards for what they were planning for the game) against the material they were generating. They wanted a T-rated game for a more general audience, but they didn't consider how to get there, and instead ended up with the worst of both scenarios. Sepiroth has stabbed a lot of people with the Masamune (even kind of Smash Bros) but they always figured out how to work those scenes so that they could play for a broader audience.
(BTW, there usually has not been blood in scenes like that in other Sepiroth appearances. It didn't "become weird", it's mostly always been that way.)
(*SPOILERS in the clip below, even the thumb, sort of...)
Again, whatever makes you happy, enjoy, but FF doesn't feel right to me when it's made for 40-year-old guys. I don't have kids to worry about (and don't know how much I would care about them hearing "fuck" in a videogame anyway,) so it doesn't affect me directly, but it still bumps me and takes me out of the experience if it crosses a line in tone.
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remember_spinal
Banned
You’re only supposed to hold hands in JRPGs
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Or Final Fucking VXI : Ultimate climax edition
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Partially exposed breasts? Pre order canceled. M Rated, dog. The exposed part better be nipples. You cowards. Did Yuji Naka steal your balls, too, Square? Were your BALLS sold on the Yakuza black market? Mother fuckers cutting off people's hands and shit like a Thief caught at market, and you're all YUJI NAKA HAS MY BALLS AND NIPPLES SCARE ME PLEASE BE EXCITED
The fuck on.
The fuck on.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
The bigger issue comes from the fact this time around character models much more detailed and have better animation compare to PSOne era, it much harder to getaway with adding blood without getting "M" ratting.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Thats good, more jrpg’s should have sex and nudity. Sex is a part of life, and western rpg’s arent shying away from it. Ive always thought the fact that some jrpg’s were afraid to show nudity or intimacy was ridiculous, especially when they have their female characters running around in lingerie. I love the mass effect games, but i always thought that they were rather silly too. In mass effect 2 and 3 you are blasting peoples heads off yet the sex scenes are the most pg-13 fair you’ve ever seen
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
Shiva....here I come!!!!!
Danjin44
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That because there is a huge double standard against Japanese games when comes having any type of nudity and sex in games. Remember how Dragon's Crown got lot of shit over its character designs from western media, meanwhile TLOU2 had full on sex and nudity but it considered "brave".
Heck when Catherine came out, there are people who thought it was "porn" game even tho it had barely any nudity or sex.
Here is another example: Strange Journey Redux cover got censored because is character pointing gun.
But in western games thats no problem ...
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ChorizoPicozo
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And attack on titan.
Danjin44
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Imru’ al-Qays
Member
Final Fantasy has never been about slavishly adhering to tradition. It's not Dragon Quest.
Literally what are you talking about. The two games widely regarded to be the best in the series (VI and VII) in no way resemble Hayao Miyazaki movies.
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Pasta la Vista
Member
Really looking forward to it, it's in good hands this time.
remember_spinal
Banned
Shit, not even Dragon Quest is sticking to tradition with XII. They gonna have fucking in that too
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