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FF7 Rebirth 89% drop in UK week 2 ("higher side of normal"); Unicorn Overlord debuts at #7 (60% sales on Switch); WWE #1
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ChorizoPicozo
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you reap what you sow dear Square Enix
Doesn't this happen a lot? lolSWITCH PHYSICAL HIGHER THAN PS5?!?
Deerock71
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Remember when they would make games with the highest userbase? Good times.
James Sawyer Ford
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They are
ByWatterson
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fatmarco
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He was talking about making games exclusive to a single console, nothing to do with metacritic/quality.
ByWatterson
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Ah, yeah a bit dyslexic there on my part.
But also, no, I don't remember FFVII launching everywhere in 1997.
Woopah
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That's not too unusual at all.SWITCH PHYSICAL HIGHER THAN PS5?!?
Deerock71
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I'm not even going to bother. They sold exclusively on Nintendo when Nintendo was on top, and Sony when Sony was on top.
It'll be exclusive until the Switch 2 launches.
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FeralEcho
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Maybe they would make a mainline game for a nintendo console when that console isn't stuck in 2 generations behind hardware. Just a guess....
Pejo
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UK boxed sales. Not much more you need to say, really. If they called it FIFA Fantasy: Modern Warfare, it'd be selling billions. I never pictured the UK as a big JRPG territory, and I'd imagine digital outweighs physical.
Stilll, even as a correlation, between this and the "less than FFXVI" article, seems like Rebirth probably came short of S-E's sales goals.
Happy to see Unicorn Overlord charting though, regardless of what the actual numbers are. Hope it does well enough so that Kamitani keeps his house.
Stilll, even as a correlation, between this and the "less than FFXVI" article, seems like Rebirth probably came short of S-E's sales goals.
Happy to see Unicorn Overlord charting though, regardless of what the actual numbers are. Hope it does well enough so that Kamitani keeps his house.
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struggler_guts
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I'll never understand how wrestling still has fans, much less it's yearly game hitting number 1?!
ByWatterson
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Doom85
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So if you think the game will be ported anyway, what are you actually complaining about?
What, should they have delayed the game by a year or more just to have it launch on both systems? That’s unreasonable.
Regardless, everyone knows the reason Final Fantasy 7 to 9 were only on Playstation and not N64 had nothing to do with which one was selling more and had a larger userbase, but rather that vision for those games required for them to be on CD-ROMs and not cartridges, so your argument is based entirely on a coincidence rather than anything substantial.
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kazuyamishima
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Even with the 89% drop, the game was #2 for this past week.
Also, porting the game to another system like Switch 2 wouldn't make it to sell millions and millions like some people are expecting.
Also, porting the game to another system like Switch 2 wouldn't make it to sell millions and millions like some people are expecting.
Tiago Rodrigues
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So...like right now?
Lethal01
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And Sony is currently not Onatopp?
No? Nintendo are definitely ontop worldwide.
gothmog
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That's some revisionist history. They switched primarily because of the price of media.
Lethal01
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I agree these figures don't look good and could be a bad sign.
But it seems extremely important to bear in mind
The only game we know it lost against in Japan, is the biggest launch in Japan to date. Ofcourse we need to see holds but these are extremely good numbers..
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
For reference, FF16 dropped 78% in its second week, it is on the higher side of normal.
Incredibly dumb takes because of it.
As if the game could run on Switch or it would sell anything meaningful on Xbox.
PC version is coming and nothing prevents it after a 3 months exclusive.
But the issue is that this game is a direct sequel.
It's catering to the same group of fans and being a sequel they're not attracting new players.
Square Enix partially knew it hence the digital Twin package where the first part is given for free.
It is still selling in line with FFXVI, probably a bit more worldwide.
In the past we had data points about how FF sequels were doing, like FFX-2, FFXIII-2 and Lightning returns and the drops were unfortunately obvious.
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DrFigs
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only for some consoles
Woopah
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They are good numbers for PS5, bad numbers for Final Fantasy.I agree these figures don't look good and could be a bad sign.
But it seems extremely important to bear in mind
The only game we know it lost against in Japan, is the biggest launch in Japan to date. Ofcourse we need to see holds but these are extremely good numbers..
DonkeyPunchJr
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Nah they’re just looking for a scapegoat for Rebirth’s disappointing sales.
Aenima
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Thers an important factor regarding FF7 Rebirth physical vs digital. The digital version has the Twin Pack that included the 1st game for free.
EDIT: Was free only during pre-orders. The Twin Pack now comes with the 1st game for an extra 30€ compared to the standard edition.
EDIT: Was free only during pre-orders. The Twin Pack now comes with the 1st game for an extra 30€ compared to the standard edition.
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Pedro Motta
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Everyone is still playing Helldivers 2 lol
Madflavor
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Welp we'll know by Tuesday if Rebirth sold poorly globally. That press release should be happening within the next 48 hours. If you hear radio silence from Square, or something along the lines of "The Remake series has earned a total of 10 million globally!" then hoo boy.
Fucking sucks. Makes me feel old as shit to see Final Fantasy at such a low point. I remember when it used to be if you were a gamer, you knew what Final Fantasy was.
Fucking sucks. Makes me feel old as shit to see Final Fantasy at such a low point. I remember when it used to be if you were a gamer, you knew what Final Fantasy was.
balls of snow
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So long as Square dont compromise on the last part of the trilogy. They are probably looking into cancelling the other remakes though if even Vii cant get people excited.
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Let’s be honest, do you think it would have sold well on the Xbox? Maybe Sony paying the exclusivity cost would offset much more than the Xbox overall sales. Switch is out of the question.
rickybooby87
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up 6% over FF16 sales as of 2 days ago, again, just physical.
A couple days prior to the OT tweet.
A couple days prior to the OT tweet.
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sigmaZ
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It's likely simply a lack of advertising. 16 did a huge advertising push nearing it's release. I live in Japan and barely saw a whimper about Rebirth. Hell even Persona 3 Reload had some random collaboration with Wendy's that caught me off guard. It's sad, but gaming is all about hype. They didn't build enough of it. It still sold well all things considered though.
Bumblebeetuna
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I'd give the remake a shot on Xbox. Not playing it on my PS5. I guess when it's all said and done on PC I'll check it out for nostalgia's sake.
James Sawyer Ford
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The brand was tarnished for decades.
The good news is we’re getting great FF games again with FF16 and FF7R.
the series is on an upward trajectory again. FF15 did a lot of brand damage
ReyBrujo
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Only the Enix half though.
LavitzSlambert
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As did pretty much every mainline FF game after X and before 7R.
Tiago Rodrigues
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Honestly...after FFX it all went to shit. FFXI was a bit of a non-event. XII was great but didn't feel "Final Fantasy" and sales were nowhere near the ones from X. FFXIII was a mess and those sequels did nothing for the franchise. FFXIV released in a terrible state. It had to be re-released to actually turn things around. FFXV was a mess. FFXVI was the first main entry game since XII to get actual good reviews on release date.
The truth is, it's been 18 years since FFXII released. 18 years before 2006? It was 1988...almost the same year the first FF released, meaning half of the franchise's years were actually bad years.
You don't get rid of those bad years with 2 entries alone.
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Lethal01
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Sure, but to take these numbers and go "clearly this wouldn't happen if they went turn based/ didn't make so many bad games" Or some other gameplay critique is just dumb.
This is an issue with releasing PS5 games in Japan not an issue with the state of the brand or its gameplay..
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ChorizoPicozo
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no. i don't remember.
Kokoloko85
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ChorizoPicozo
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this is absolutely the issue.