GreatnessRD
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I hope not. The Series S is retarded already and shouldn't exist.
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Do you see Sony launching a XSS competitor?
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
3x worse compared to what? Last generations consoles? Casual gamers don't care about top end performance. They want a low price. Sony isn't catering to those gamers at the moment. We'll see how well it performs but the XSS is already doing things last gen consoles couldn't.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
Member
You know about economies of scale? If the ps5 digital edition sells significantly more, it will be cheaper to produce.
Andodalf
Banned
Same games, but paying more isn’t what folks on a budget want
Desudzer10
Member
I'd rather Xbox have a digital series X like the PS5.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
Member
Even xbox one x settings can't be used on series s. So backward compatible games actually look worse on series s than xbox one x. Given microsoft is going to support the one x for years, it wouldn't be surprising if next gen games like halo look better on one x than on series s.
Onironauta
Member
That would make zero sense
All the games developed for the standard PS5 would need to be recoded in order to run on the weaker configuration
And with the PS5 Digital placed at the price, having a cheaper version wouldn't make sense commercially either
All the games developed for the standard PS5 would need to be recoded in order to run on the weaker configuration
And with the PS5 Digital placed at the price, having a cheaper version wouldn't make sense commercially either
dano1
A Sheep
Well then Microsoft should have
just reduced the price of the Xbox one too $199 and made that for casuals ..
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
They'd better off releasing a slim version of PS5
MiguelItUp
Member
No, because that was never Sony's approach or they surely would've done it already. Besides, the digital version at least adds another model that's SLIGHTLY cheaper. Maybe the second model of the PS5 will come sooner than later.
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
I'd make fun of them if they did.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Nah, what I meant was a lower spec cheaper console, maybe at $250 instead of $300
V4skunk
Banned
PS5 is the XSS and it smokes for a hundred £ more.
Kokoloko85
Member
Why would they? They’ll have A slim in a few years
mcjmetroid
Member
No need I think.
Microsoft only did it because they had no choice. At least in their mind.
Don't is in a very comfortable position which 99% correct decisions going into this gen..
They don't need a cheaper model.
Microsoft only did it because they had no choice. At least in their mind.
Don't is in a very comfortable position which 99% correct decisions going into this gen..
They don't need a cheaper model.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Nope. They don't have the service model to sell it. Their strength is exclusives and people will buy the machine needed to play them.
OnThePathToWisdom
Member
Didn't they do that already back in 2016?
PS4 was launched in 2013 dude. And the DE is already the competitor.
michaelius
Banned
No it would be extremely stupid since it splits developers resources into additional platform to test for when they have perfect situation with cheaper model having same specification as more expensive one.
Quasicat
Member
Looking at how Sony has operated in the past generations, they release a new console and still sell the previous model for a couple more years. I can’t imagine that they could get the PS4 Slim any smaller than it currently is, like they did with PS3, but they could sell it as a really cheap alternative to the PS5.
Basically.
It fits perfectly in the middle between the X and S.
As of right now, it's looking a genius move.
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Ev1L AuRoN
Member
Sony is in a great position pricewise and they really push the developer friendly ideia, I would imagine that the last thing developers want right now is another SKU to target their games. I think nobody wants that.
Agent X
Member
Sony's "entry-level" video game system already exists. It's called PlayStation 4.
Consider the $299 price tag of the Xbox Series S. Sony has just been handed a huge opportunity to employ some seriously shrewd marketing. They won't position the PlayStation 5 Digital Edition as being analogous to the Xbox Series S...no, folks, they're not going to take that bait. The clever approach would be to position PlayStation 4 as the direct competitor to Xbox Series S.
Here's how it works. Microsoft says, "Our basic system sells for only $299. It can play this holiday season's big-hit games like Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, FIFA 21, and Dirt 5. It's a good fit for people who have 1080p or lower TVs and don't need all the high-tech bells and whistles."
Sony responds: "We've also got a basic system that sells for $299. It's also got each and every one of those big-hit games, plus our award-winning first-party games like Spider-Man, God of War, and The Last of Us Part II that you'll never see on their system. It can play free-to-play games like Fortnite without an added subscription fee. Oh, and ours even has a Blu-ray drive, too!"
The casual and budget-minded video game players don't understand and/or care about SSDs, ray-tracing, and GPU teraflops. They don't play specs, they play games. Until the day comes when (and if) Xbox Series S breaks away with some hot must-have new games, it will be perceived by the masses as Microsoft's version of the PS4 without a Blu-ray drive.
That's how Sony will steer this comparison in their favor. They'll ensure that the Xbox Series S is forever viewed as the "runt" by associating it with PlayStation 4 instead of PlayStation 5.
Consider the $299 price tag of the Xbox Series S. Sony has just been handed a huge opportunity to employ some seriously shrewd marketing. They won't position the PlayStation 5 Digital Edition as being analogous to the Xbox Series S...no, folks, they're not going to take that bait. The clever approach would be to position PlayStation 4 as the direct competitor to Xbox Series S.
Here's how it works. Microsoft says, "Our basic system sells for only $299. It can play this holiday season's big-hit games like Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, FIFA 21, and Dirt 5. It's a good fit for people who have 1080p or lower TVs and don't need all the high-tech bells and whistles."
Sony responds: "We've also got a basic system that sells for $299. It's also got each and every one of those big-hit games, plus our award-winning first-party games like Spider-Man, God of War, and The Last of Us Part II that you'll never see on their system. It can play free-to-play games like Fortnite without an added subscription fee. Oh, and ours even has a Blu-ray drive, too!"
The casual and budget-minded video game players don't understand and/or care about SSDs, ray-tracing, and GPU teraflops. They don't play specs, they play games. Until the day comes when (and if) Xbox Series S breaks away with some hot must-have new games, it will be perceived by the masses as Microsoft's version of the PS4 without a Blu-ray drive.
That's how Sony will steer this comparison in their favor. They'll ensure that the Xbox Series S is forever viewed as the "runt" by associating it with PlayStation 4 instead of PlayStation 5.
Astral Dog
Member
They would just lower the price of the DE and offer a GamePass like subscription service if they were that desperate
Mike Zhang
Member
I just really don't how xss could compete with PS5de
vito_don_corleone_
Banned
No.
brownfedora
Member
LOL, would be the dumbest thing they could do. Keep a consistent target platform and let it come down in price. If anything, they should focus on the mid-gen pro version.
LordOfChaos
Member
You can introduce a stronger console at the midpoint of a generation, or a weaker one right at the start.
You can't introduce a weaker console once you've already started a generation. How would that work? It would rely on developers to cut back preexisting, shipped games for the weaker box, some developers just don't patch things once they're done with them, it would be a mess.
You can't introduce a weaker console once you've already started a generation. How would that work? It would rely on developers to cut back preexisting, shipped games for the weaker box, some developers just don't patch things once they're done with them, it would be a mess.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I can't understand why people keep comparing the XSS to the X1X. The XSS is not an upgrade to the X1X the XSX is. The the X1X is already not being made anymore and we have maybe one more year tops for X1 development. The XSS has one massive advantage and that it isn't use jaguar CPU cores so it has way more longevity on that alone.
This makes no sense. The Xbox has been attacked over and over again for having a horrible CPU. Why would MS keep using that uber old tech which actually would hold back development unlike the XSS? The X1 is done.
I don't see Sony responding to the XSS no matter what. They would just drop the price of the PS5 or bundle some more games or something to make it more appealing if necessary. Most likely Sony fan would pay regardless so Sony has little to worry about.
Bonfires Down
Member
The more GAF hates on the S, the more I think it will sell very well. We’ve been through this before with the 3DS vs Vita and the Switch.
But I still doubt Sony will do it, if only because it will be hard to get developers to go back and adjust their games for the weaker console.
But I still doubt Sony will do it, if only because it will be hard to get developers to go back and adjust their games for the weaker console.
Aceofspades
Banned
No, Sony are not stupid.
Codes 208
Member
Sony isn’t desperate enough to bother. Yes a cheaper console is nice but the overall value is minuscule when you look at the specs and ssd space. A year or two from now I feel the system will already feel it’s age. Not that it already isn’t with ports being launched at sub-1080p
killatopak
Member
They already did. It’s called PS5DE.
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